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Posted by Jansa on Jul-19-2006 11:02:

Seatbelt

Do you wear a seatbelt? Also in the backseat?

What are the laws in your country regarding this subject?


Posted by D-res on Jul-19-2006 11:15:

In Wisconsin you can get I believe a $15 (not sure, give or take) ticket for not wearing your seat belt. I, for one, always wear mine.


Posted by THE_Chris on Jul-19-2006 11:25:

Its a law here but never really enforced.

Tho I always wear one, force of habit I guess.


Posted by Nabistai on Jul-19-2006 11:33:

I always wear my seatbelt when I'm driving, but never when I'm sitting in the back seat or the passenger seat


Posted by Orbax on Jul-19-2006 11:35:

"click it or ticket" here. 70 dollar fine.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Jul-19-2006 11:37:

I always wear a seatbelt.

As an insurance adjuster handling bodily injury claims I've seen far too many people killed or suffer extremely serious injuries due to not wearing a seatbelt to ever consider getting into a car without one.

Below is a photograph I took of a Chrysler Sebring that struck a tree...



There were four people in the vehicle. The gentleman in the rear left seating position was not wearing his seatbelt the other three were. The unrestrained passenger suffered fatal head injuries, the others suffered a broken patella (knee cap), broken tibia (shin), and broken radius (forearm). I don't know about you but I'd rather be on crutches for two months then dead. BTW, the deceased was 19 years old.

Please, wear your seatbelts.

As for the law question.... IN ONTARIO (Canada) - if the vehicle was manufactured with seatbelts then seatbelts must we utilized by all ocupents of the vehicle. Liability rests with the driver to ensure all ocupents under the age of 16 are belted and with the ocupents themselves if over the age of 16.


Posted by Azz3D on Jul-19-2006 11:47:

i know people who are too cool to wear a seatbelt
dumbasses


Posted by aquila on Jul-19-2006 13:07:

After rolling my car off a wet highway at high speed, I realised how well seatbelts hold you in position. I never ever drive without a seatbelt. Anyone who doesn't needs their head checked.

Besides, it's a $250 fine here and 6 demerit points off your licence.


Posted by Sunsnail on Jul-19-2006 13:10:

Yes, pretty much. I think I've not worn it maybe 5 times ever.


Posted by Slylee on Jul-19-2006 13:20:

hell yes i do. i can't even tell you how many accidents i drive by living in south florida. during the week, most of my driving is done on a very busy highway where everyone is going 50mph +.


i'm so used to the feeling of it on me now, i dont even think twice about putting it on.



and i really hope no one posts some bullshit about how a seatbelt can kill you....


Posted by Moral Hazard on Jul-19-2006 13:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
and i really hope no one posts some bullshit about how a seatbelt can kill you....


I've had claims where that has happened as well. Normally these are extremely high speed impacts where the forces involved are sufficient to cause extensive internal injuries along the seat belt lines. The only one of these I have currently was a head on collision between two vehicles, one travelling *looking up engineer report* 89 KM/h and the other travelling 136 KM/h. It should be noted, however, had the deceased party not been belted he would have been thrown into or likely through the windsheild suffering massive head trauma, which likely would have resulted in his death (conclusion of the bio-mechanical analysis provided by engineer).


Posted by Ivand on Jul-19-2006 14:02:

There is a law here, but it never gets enforced, unless you are in one of those days when everything goes wrong, then it will be enforced, but you can easily bribe a cop for like, 3 to 6 usd


Posted by Jansa on Jul-19-2006 14:03:

My girlfriends father nearly got strangled by a seatbelt once after flipping his car over and he never wears a seatbelt any more. I think he's got it stuck in his head for life now and no matter how many times I've tried to persuade him, he never listens. I for one always wear the thing, although it hasn't been of any use to me yet...luckily.

The maximum fine you can get is about $500 here, I think. I might be wrong though...


Posted by Lira on Jul-19-2006 14:09:

I wear seatbelts except when I'm in the backseat and I can't find the damn thing.

There are fines if the police catch you not wearing it (but I don't know how much it is).


Posted by Moral Hazard on Jul-19-2006 14:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Jansa
My girlfriends father nearly got strangled by a seatbelt once after flipping his car over and he never wears a seatbelt any more. I think he's got it stuck in his head for life now and no matter how many times I've tried to persuade him, he never listens.


If I wasn't bound by privacy laws I could send you some great pictures of two seriously disfigured ladies that were ejected during a roll over (both the only ones in the vehicle not wearing a seatbelt, both the only ones injured). Perhaps this photo of another vehicle involved in a roll over will suffice.... 21 year old girl was fatally injured, again, she was the only one to suffer injuries (other then minor cuts) and the only one not wearing a seatbelt.


Posted by stren on Jul-19-2006 14:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I've had claims where that has happened as well. Normally these are extremely high speed impacts where the forces involved are sufficient to cause extensive internal injuries along the seat belt lines. The only one of these I have currently was a head on collision between two vehicles, one travelling *looking up engineer report* 89 KM/h and the other travelling 136 KM/h. It should be noted, however, had the deceased party not been belted he would have been thrown into or likely through the windsheild suffering massive head trauma, which likely would have resulted in his death (conclusion of the bio-mechanical analysis provided by engineer).



In regards to that, in the accident accident i was involved earlier this month the woman in the other car had her Sternum broken because of the seatbelt, which was very suprising to me, as the speed of the impact was preety low.
I didn't wear the seatbelt then, because there was none for the back seat
I always put on my seatbelt whenever i can.

BTW does anyone remember that video where the guy is thrown out of the car onto the other lane ?


Posted by Moral Hazard on Jul-19-2006 15:10:

quote:
Originally posted by stren
In regards to that, in the accident accident i was involved earlier this month the woman in the other car had her Sternum broken because of the seatbelt, which was very suprising to me, as the speed of the impact was preety low.


She could have had a degenerative bone condition. I see low speed impacts that result in fractures from time to time.... it's usually what we call a "thin skull" situation; meaning the injured party has some underlying condition that was not a problem prior to the collision but when combined with the forces of the collision results in injuries of greater severity then what would be experienced by someone without said condition.


Posted by Protege on Jul-19-2006 16:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
"click it or ticket" here. 70 dollar fine.


lol thats the gayest slogan ever. I hate those commercials where the people get pulled over for it. Who is stupid enough to not buckle up when you get pulled over?


Posted by Aquarian on Jul-19-2006 16:32:

For those of you who don't wear it in the backseat - not only will you die, but you'll break the neck of the person in front of you. Not wearing it in front is stupid, not wearing it in the back is double-stupid!


Posted by Azz3D on Jul-19-2006 16:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
not wearing it in the back is double-stupid!


but i thought a woman can't get pregnant from buttseckz
was i wrong all these years

back on the topic
ahem...

currently in assachusetts they can't pull you over for not wearing it (they just reversed this bill 2 months ago by the way)
you can get a ticket if they pull you over for something else and see you don't have it on


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Jul-19-2006 16:59:

one time my bro got pulled over for speeding or something.

as the cop was walking up to his car, before he got there, my bro undoes his seatbelt so he can get his wallet/license out.

the cop then noticed he didnt have his seatbelt on, and acknowledged it. my bro quickly explained that he took it off to get his wallet out.

the cop didnt care. wrote him a ticket for both speeding and not wearing a seatbelt. my bro cant prove that he WAS wearing a seatbelt.

let this be a lesson to those of you...


Posted by jdat on Jul-19-2006 17:01:

In France you are supposed to wear it front and back but it's not really enforced but if you get stopped or you're in an accident you're in serious trouble.


Otherwise me I always wear it fron and back


And I ALWAYS put my headlights on! Day or night.


Posted by Ygrene on Jul-19-2006 17:02:

I'm a seatbelt nerd. I never go without wearing it, and I hate not being able to wear one.

When people get in my car and they don't wear a seatbelt, it makes me nervous. I usually suggest to them that they should wear it but, I don't insist. When I get into someone elses car and can't find a seatbelt, I get VERY nervous. Then I hurry up and fashion a makeshift seatbelt out of my underwear and use that. Luckily, by doing that it's the last time I have to ride in that persons car.


Posted by Jansa on Jul-19-2006 17:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Ygrene
I hurry up and fashion a makeshift seatbelt out of my underwear and use that. Luckily, by doing that it's the last time I have to ride in that persons car.


GENIOUS!


Posted by Moongoose on Jul-19-2006 17:19:

My father used to brake hard and randomly (when safe of course) when someone woudnt put +on his seatbelt. Notnhard enough to actualy put the persons face trough the windshield but hard enought that he got scared shitless. Me, if someone doesnt want to wear a seatbelt i ask them twice nicly to do it and them ask them to leave the car and walk if they still refuse.


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