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I don't know what is more frightening
The fact that doctors are leaving surgical equipment in people or the fact that they feel they have to tag the surgical equipment to avoid the prior from happening...
yikes....
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/hea...hp?newsid=47583
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Re: I don't know what is more frightening
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| Originally posted by girllovingtvibe The fact that doctors are leaving surgical equipment in people or the fact that they feel they have to tag the surgical equipment to avoid the prior from happening... yikes.... http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/hea...hp?newsid=47583 |
I saw something about this on TLC, I was appauled at the doctors clumpsy acts, and for a "Trained" PhD!! They seem to be ONLY trained to drop shit as it seems. I thank god that nothing was left in my body that couple of times I had surgery!
You have to consider that these people are working 12-18-24 hour shifts. Just because they are doctors doesn't mean they aren't human, don't get completely exhausted and simply make stupid mistakes. Yes, they are bad mistakes to make, but I can't say I hold it against them considering the crazy level of stress they must always be under.
Walk a mile in their shoes, and then start criticizing the job they do.
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| Originally posted by Theresa You have to consider that these people are working 12-18-24 hour shifts. Just because they are doctors doesn't mean they aren't human, don't get completely exhausted and simply make stupid mistakes. Yes, they are bad mistakes to make, but I can't say I hold it against them considering the crazy level of stress they must always be under. Walk a mile in their shoes, and then start criticizing the job they do. |
Although I totally understand your point Theresa, yes they work long shifts and they have a demanding job, it's all true and I have alot of respect for Dr.s, but to actually leave equipment in people...is a little more then just, " I worked a 14 hrs shift and im tired". They shouldn't be working that long if this is what happens, and YES there is a shortage of DR.s, but regardless.... stuff like this gives respected DR.s a bad name weather they have done it or not.
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| Originally posted by Frenchie I have alot of respect for Dr.s, but to actually leave equipment in people... |
I dont know..is it that hard to see? Looks like it...but thats pretty scary...
If I ever have to undergo a surgery I'll leave a post it note beside my bed "DO NOT LEAVE EQUIPEMNT IN ME"
...yea Im serious
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| Originally posted by HypnotEyez I dont know..is it that hard to see? Looks like it...but thats pretty scary... If I ever have to undergo a surgery I'll leave a post it note beside my bed "DO NOT LEAVE EQUIPEMNT IN ME" ...yea Im serious |
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| Originally posted by geroin i dont know if im talking about the same thing but from what i saw the sponges are small, they usually use them to clean the rest of the stuff after they are done the surgery, they pour the water in to clean up all the blood and they suck it back in and use a sponge to clean the rest, its usually a bunch of them used too. Also a lot of surgeries are done just by using a camera, sometimes the sponge falls somewhere and its impossible to see it and they just dont notice... |
oh i thought this had something to do with unplanned pregnancies.
hmm.
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| Originally posted by Frenchie Although I totally understand your point Theresa, yes they work long shifts and they have a demanding job, it's all true and I have alot of respect for Dr.s, but to actually leave equipment in people...is a little more then just, " I worked a 14 hrs shift and im tired". They shouldn't be working that long if this is what happens, and YES there is a shortage of DR.s, but regardless.... stuff like this gives respected DR.s a bad name weather they have done it or not. |
wow you guys have no clue.
No doctor wants to work 12 to 24h, actually no one wants to workt those kind of shifts.
Hospitals are understaffed and its not unheard of to have only one specialist in the whole hospital. Plus many emergencies happen, so he can't just leave and come back the next day.
Or how about you just got home from a 18h shift, you get barely 2h of sleep before they call you back because the patient needs an urgent operation or he dies.
Thanks to our federal govt who cut provincial transfers in the 90s (and never restored them), provinces had to cut back on service and send thousands of doctors and nurses to retirement.
well its one thing to leave sponges, and another to leave metal tools.
And yea there's a serious lack of surgeons in most hospitals. Do they just not want to pay? wtf man. People are dying
It's not just the Doctor's fault for leaving things in bodies. It's the nurses, students, and all the assistants working in the room that are watching. They all could have spotted it in most cases.
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| Originally posted by Abercrombie It's not just the Doctor's fault for leaving things in bodies. It's the nurses, students, and all the assistants working in the room that are watching. They all could have spotted it in most cases. |
having cancerous tumor removed > having small sponge left in
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Re: Re: I don't know what is more frightening
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| Originally posted by dallastar OMG I saw something about this on TLC, I was appauled at the doctors clumpsy acts, and for a "Trained" PhD!! They seem to be ONLY trained to drop shit as it seems. I thank god that nothing was left in my body that couple of times I had surgery! THANK GOD!!!!!!!! |
I would like to really add my opinion here.
This is such a great idea. This is technology at it's best! Thank you geeks that designed these wireless things.
As for all your other comments here. You people really really really have no clue at all.
I did a co-op in the operating room in highschool and you seriously don't realize what you are talking about.
When a person comes in from a major car accident, you can't tell the guys ass from his face. His guts are hanging out, his heart is about to stop. THIS is stress, you really think that a little sponge is going to be the biggest concern for a doctor!? They are saving lives here people.
I once witnessed the most horrifying thing (this is why I am not a doctor right now). A woman came in for an emergency C-section. The nurses prepared a floor mat in the corner about 8 by 8 feet. By the end of the surgery, there was between 50 and 60 rags soaked with blood. And these weren't little sponges but giant rags. So much blood and such a mess. They counted all of these continuously and kept count of how many are being used. They really are doing good work. It was well organized but I can see if you are holding some guys heart in your hand while you are sowing there bladder back into there body, you may forget about a sponge. This technology is amazing!
^^^ You bring up a good point Margs. A lot of us haven't had the oppurtunity like you have to get a look at how a doctor's day goes and how stressful it may be and thus we make assumptions. Thanks for sharing. 
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| Originally posted by StereoPrincess I would like to really add my opinion here. This is such a great idea. This is technology at it's best! Thank you geeks that designed these wireless things. As for all your other comments here. You people really really really have no clue at all. I did a co-op in the operating room in highschool and you seriously don't realize what you are talking about. When a person comes in from a major car accident, you can't tell the guys ass from his face. His guts are hanging out, his heart is about to stop. THIS is stress, you really think that a little sponge is going to be the biggest concern for a doctor!? They are saving lives here people. I once witnessed the most horrifying thing (this is why I am not a doctor right now). A woman came in for an emergency C-section. The nurses prepared a floor mat in the corner about 8 by 8 feet. By the end of the surgery, there was between 50 and 60 rags soaked with blood. And these weren't little sponges but giant rags. So much blood and such a mess. They counted all of these continuously and kept count of how many are being used. They really are doing good work. It was well organized but I can see if you are holding some guys heart in your hand while you are sowing there bladder back into there body, you may forget about a sponge. This technology is amazing! |
Thanks for that Marg made me annylize that fron a different view.. No, most of us will never have the oppertunity that you have had and shared with us. I have two uncles who are Dr.s and what you have described for us is exactly what I have seen myself. But In all honesty I still don't think such things should happen. Yes you may be looking @ a mangeled(sp?) body while trying to keep him breathing and sewing him up to keep him inact all @ the same time but the pressure and intensity is something that a DR should know he's going to face sooner or later in his career. Yes it is very different when you're taught about it VS. seeing it and going though it....even though all that madness is going on all at once, and you have screaming , yelling, tools being passed around, beeping, monitors and it can get hectic, I still don't think equipment in a body should be forgotten about. I may not exactly KNOW but I do understand what a DR. has to see and go through, and yes it's rough, but maybe some people are just not meant to be DR.s or need to really evaluate themselves and this career before they get in to it. Mistakes get made in everyday life no matter what you do, but most mistakes arn;t as deadly as equipment left behind in your stomach.
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