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Posted by Sungod on Jul-26-2006 02:41:

Beat / Bass volume during gigs

I was wondering why the bass / beat volume is always so damn loud, which makes it almost impossible to listen to the melody and vocals.
Saw PvD last saturday and songs like satellite were almost impossible to listen to the vocals.....
It s not the first time...with AvB, Ferry Corsten etc...it was kind of the same....
Next time I am going with ear-plugs....

Posted by djkoolaide on Jul-26-2006 05:06:

PvD played Satellite?

srsly. it's one thing to play GOOD songs that are 3 years old. but satellite? wtf.

Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Jul-26-2006 06:44:

Yup, he plays the 'Alx Odden�s Flipside Vocal Mix' every now and then.

I think it�s ok, this remix is great, so why not...

Posted by Grrrrr on Jul-26-2006 07:58:

Buy some earplugs. Seriously they will protect your ears and the music will sound a whole lot clearer, 2 birds, one stone.

Search for "Elacin ER20"

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-26-2006 09:46:

I've noticed the same thing. It seems like most clubs don't care about the actual sound quality as long as it's loud as fuck.

Posted by PEZ68 on Jul-26-2006 09:51:

This kind of thing is why I'm not going in some events anymore. It can totally ruins your night.

Posted by noikeee on Jul-26-2006 10:41:

Thankfully the biggest club and event-organizer here has a great sound system with crystal clear quality, so can't complain much. But I know exactly what you mean, some people think "as loud as possible = better", it ruined some house parties and half-assed events I've been to.

Posted by daeus on Jul-26-2006 11:13:

I Love some nice deep loud bass in DnB events.

With Trance I do prefer the mid range to be up but not too high , and if the highs are too high it can js sound like a mish mash of high hats,esp after 9 hours, not like we've got a choice though

Posted by rustyryan on Jul-26-2006 17:48:

I want to have my cake and eat it too.. I want to feel the bass shake my body but I don't want it to drown out the music... I may look into some decent earplugs..

Posted by Sungod on Jul-26-2006 18:16:

Yeah..he played satellite..and of course For an Angel and Time of our lives... A coupel of others form his previews albums, but the bass was to strong to i.d. the rest

Don�t get me wrong, I love some strong bass, but together with the melody and vocals

I�ll use some earplugs next time for sure.

Posted by Aquarian on Jul-26-2006 18:57:

Don't ear plugs mostly block out high frequencies though?

Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Jul-26-2006 19:20:

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Originally posted by Aquarian
Don't ear plugs mostly block out high frequencies though?

yea if u get the cheap foam type plugs, they make the sound muffled and really bad. Theres only one way to get the proper ones and thats going to an audiologist, or equivalent professional. They will custom make a set of plugs that fit YOUR ear shape, and they lower the volume w/o loss of certain frequencies so its all there, just a bit lower volume so no hearing damage/loss.

Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Jul-26-2006 19:25:

The Ear plugs wont help. Honestly. But they WILL protect your hearing, so buy them for that purpose alone. A fucked up sound is a fucked up sound at the end of the day.

Posted by Sungod on Jul-26-2006 20:44:

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
The Ear plugs wont help. Honestly. But they WILL protect your hearing, so buy them for that purpose alone. A fucked up sound is a fucked up sound at the end of the day.

yeah exactly, ear plugs won�t improve the sound quality, but at least you don t get out of the club with your ears hurting and listening to that piiiiiiiii sound for hours...

Posted by isoterra on Jul-26-2006 20:51:

damn that sucks.. i don't think i've ever had that issue with any UK clubs. there's been a few times where the mids & treble have been way too high though, which doesn't distort the sound but is murder on your eardrums and leaves you with tinitus the following morning

Posted by pvdclubber on Jul-26-2006 21:21:

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Originally posted by isoterra
damn that sucks.. i don't think i've ever had that issue with any UK clubs. there's been a few times where the mids & treble have been way too high though, which doesn't distort the sound but is murder on your eardrums and leaves you with tinitus the following morning

every club i have ever been to in the uk blares out at way too loud volumes, go to germany and it's 20db quieter,

clubs like gatecrasher and godskitchen are the devils arse when it comes to loudness,

decent earplugs just reduce the volume, not the frequencies you can hear,

i have a pair of triflanges that have served me well over the years, i just put them in and forget about them,

Posted by humilis on Jul-26-2006 22:05:

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I've noticed the same thing. It seems like most clubs don't care about the actual sound quality as long as it's loud as fuck.

I've noticed most DJs don't care about the gains in the mixer when spinning..

Posted by fabio_trevez on Jul-26-2006 23:28:

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Originally posted by humilis
I've noticed most DJs don't care about the gains in the mixer when spinning..

That's true! but the issue of the bass and kick loudness is related with the PA (Public Address) sound system. In this case i suggest move around and find a place where it sounds better.

Posted by Sungod on Jul-26-2006 23:34:

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Originally posted by fabio_trevez
In this case i suggest move around and find a place where it sounds better.

In my case it would have been standing outside, next to the street