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Dangers of ecstasy

The article below talks about the underestimated dangers of ecstasy. What do others think?

http://bulletin.ninemsn.com.au/bull...A2571B50004CDD3

a friend of a friend of mine died popping 4 pills at once last week.

there just isnt enough research on the drug to show what its negative effects are in the long term. of course its dangerous if you abuse it, almost any drug is, but from what research we have available, E usage is shown to be generally safe if you're educated and know whats in your pill and what substances are bad to mix it with.

MDMA may be safe, but the crap thats cut in with them sometimes isn't.

Unless you test you just don't know what you're taking.

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Originally posted by hadi ****** i read that thing. for some reason though, i never get the depressing 2 or 3 days afterwards. i always feel great the next day, although i usually take a few months break between each time dropping. i have done liek 10 in one month before but still didnt have any depression problems. that article looks like bullshit to me, and stuff like that has been written before.

Indeed. Almost any drug that gives you a good mood lift seems to have possible depression as one of its negative comedown/after effects but it seems much more common in people who already have pre-existing problems with depression.

the biggest danger in ecstacy is making bad djs sound good

yeah, ecstasy is perfectly safe. the same way cigarettes are safe. if you kids wanna lie to yourselves, go right ahead. but shit, there is already plenty of documentation showing how MDMA ruins your serotonin production/dissemination ability, and heavy longterm users can end up with none at all.

party safe but dont think anything like ecstasy comes without a cost.

Havent done it in over 2 yrs but i still think its the best drug ever.

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Originally posted by jonSun Havent done it in over 2 yrs but i still think its the best drug ever.

its fun yea what about coke?i wanna try cocaine

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Originally posted by CranberryJuice its fun yea what about coke?i wanna try cocaine

lol ive never done that, but i do know a few TA's that can help u out on that.

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Originally posted by hadi ****** i read that thing. for some reason though, i never get the depressing 2 or 3 days afterwards. i always feel great the next day, although i usually take a few months break between each time dropping. i have done liek 10 in one month before but still didnt have any depression problems. that article looks like bullshit to me, and stuff like that has been written before.

All boils down to an individual's neurological make-up, much like how some people can drink a whole bottle of vodka and still be functioning, when 4 pints of beer make me drunk

Over the 9 years of use I endured, I never once had a come-down, even when I was caining ridiculous amounts in 2001.

I have been very lucky, and have quit whilst I am ahead, but then I am a naturally happy and extroverted person.

I've seen people who are usually very introverted try it, love it, both for how it makes them feel and for helping disspell their introvert tendencies, but then crash hard afterwards as they become even more removed and unhappy.

Also, the true risks will only become apparent when our generation hit's their late 30s/early 40s

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Originally posted by CranberryJuice its fun yea what about coke?i wanna try cocaine

Most overrated.

Expensive.
Short lived.
The actual effect is a combination of verbal diarrhea, possible arrogance, and, predominantly, the want of more coke

Little bit here and there is fine, especially if it is free, but the actually cost/experience ratio is very very poor.

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Originally posted by CranberryJuice its fun yea what about coke?i wanna try cocaine

coke is only fun if you're the dealer

yeah i heard it was overrated funny thing is that the cousin of my friend and his friends were hanging out with us almost every nite and were doing coke in front of us

i asked them how it was and they were like "no this stuff is definately overrated and isnt that great" and then they were snorting some more

i didn't dare to try at this time

E is fine if its E, not E/Acid or E/Meth or E/LSD, which it often is, and who knows when its not? Only ppl who are regular users w/ trusted dealers can know for sure.

Thats the real danger of E, not the seratonin fallout, which returns to completely normal levels within two weeks as long as you don't abuse again during that time.

ecstacy can only be considered marginally safe if you stack it with prozac within 6 hours of dropping... otherwise you're frying your serotonin neurons every time dopamine enters the reuptake mechanism and is broken down into hydrogen peroxide

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Originally posted by lex400sc ecstacy can only be considered marginally safe if you stack it with prozac within 6 hours of dropping... otherwise you're frying your serotonin neurons every time dopamine enters the nerve

I do not agree. What are you basing this on?

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Originally posted by lex400sc ecstacy can only be considered marginally safe if you stack it with prozac within 6 hours of dropping... otherwise you're frying your serotonin neurons every time dopamine enters the reuptake mechanism and is broken down into hydrogen peroxide

Wouldn't that completely negate the high?

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Originally posted by Spartan E/Acid or E/LSD

same thing

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Originally posted by Spartan I do not agree. What are you basing this on?

Well known fact. Do a search.

Since when does E last for 6 hours? In other words, it wouldn't negate the high.

Very much out-dated article, "the drugs reputation is about to take a battering" Heh, its received quite some batterings for over 10 years now, still no definite conclusions can be drawn from most studies done.

Of course with abuse of the drug, taking x number of pills each and every weekend, there will be some damage...

About what is actually in your pills it is very much region dependent. In the States you are much more likely to find adulterated pills than in Western Europe where pills are generally much cleaner, 95+ % according to statistics if I remember correctly according to the Institute for Social Drugs Research in Belgium. And it makes sense, why would a dealer want to sell you crap if he wants to get new customers...

In any case though it is best to have your pills tested:
1. Lab-tested (Holland)
2. Using Marquis and other reagents (www.eztest.com)
3. Comparing your pills with those on www.pillreports.com

@Spartan, it is said to take between 6-10 weeks for serotonin levels to come to your normal level again, and then again, that depends on frequency of use, amount of MDMA consumed, mood, amount of serotonin enhancing foods you eat, existence of previous serotonin system damage, etc. etc.

my e ROcks

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Originally posted by seekrets my e ROcks

i dont believe u

send me some so i can confirm that ur statement is true

Speaking of drugs,
2 days ago the son of a prince in the royal family here went bezerk on a meth binge and stabbed his dad and then turned and killed his mom who was trying to protect her husband. The son later died due to complications from the drug.

the shit's all over the papers.

oh yea, sure, besides e causing your brain to literally turn into swiss cheese, whether or not its mixed with anything else, it's totally fine.
never have tried it, never will try it

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