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what is the next big genre?

There is alot of talk on the forums now about electro being on top of the EDM world, and also much complaining that electro has peaked and is now declining in quality. I notice people tend to prefer to follow these genres when their trendiness is starting to build and then dump them as soon at they peak in their popularity. This seemed to happen with trance in the late 1990's, then prog when I first joined the site and then electro in 2002. It leaves me wondering what is the genre that is gaining momentum at the moment. What is building its way up now towards eventually replacing electro as the new big EDM sound.

I am not so vain as to follow these genre trends, I still haven't "grown out" of trance. I don't really care which style has the most coolness at the moment, but I like to be aware of what is going on around me.

So which genre(s) is gaining momentum? obviously there are people sticking with prog the same way I have stuck with what is left of trance, and I'm sure there will be plenty of people still staying with electro. I don't like to ally myself to any single genre really, I'm kinda all over the place but my collection ends up being half trance half everything else.

I am really interested in all your opinions on this, I hope we can keep this discussion informative rather than arguing, lets try to compile some ideas before we start arguing please.

Minimal is the next big buzzword. In two years, everything will be "minimal". Guaranteed.

wat's minimal ?

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Originally posted by Ishkur Minimal is the next big buzzword. In two years, everything will be "minimal". Guaranteed.

Anybody remember who the group was that made a song that was just silence, whose fans then caused a big stink with Itunes to be able to buy the track, since they hadn't made it available before?

minimal eh?

I guess I have noticed a bit of momentum towards minimal stuff. Do you(as in everybody, not just ishkur) think all the present and past minimal people will bitch about what the increase in popularity has done to ruin their scene and their music the way every other genre's first adopters has acted after their surge in trendiness?

A bit of minimal might be good for the people around me, everything here seems to strive to be as obnoxious as possible, I think it would be good for us if people took up a minimal aesthetic, but I imagine people are gonna go overboard with it, we always do.

Anyone have a different prediction, or anything intresting to say about these transitions between genres?

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 minimal eh? I guess I have noticed a bit of momentum towards minimal stuff. Do you(as in everybody, not just ishkur) think all the present and past minimal people will bitch about what the increase in popularity has done to ruin their scene and their music the way every other genre's first adopters has acted after their surge in trendiness? A bit of minimal might be good for the people around me, everything here seems to strive to be as obnoxious as possible, I think it would be good for us if people took up a minimal aesthetic, but I imagine people are gonna go overboard with it, we always do. Anyone have a different prediction, or anything intresting to say about these transitions between genres?

Anything can be overdone. The reason a lot of people bitch about mainstream killing their old favorites is because they get overloaded. It's just too much of a good thing...coupled with the influx of sub-par stuff that a mainstream fad can support, but which wouldn't have had the substance to survive a market funded by afficianados. The latter is what all the lifers wind up bandying about as the cause of the demise, but it comes from both.

I'll let you know whenever I hear something incredibly innovative.

Next big genre will be whatever I end up liking the most... as there will be a next big genre for everyone, as it should be anyways.

If you're talking popularity in terms of numbers... not a clue really, maybe tech house?.

yeah, in terms of groups, of industry buzz, of the shit you are likely to hear people saying when you go out partying, not just the little world in your head.

All the magazines and stuff were shouting about minimal last year, is there something on the horizon building up right now which will emerge as dominant after minimal? Something hasn't been all over the mags for a year yet?

The number one google result for "minimal dance music" is this dj mag article from last year which is titled "Is Prog Dead?" and talks about digweed, why do all the friggin genre migrations revolve around digweed?

I'm not seeing the status quo changing at all.

According to many of the South Beach clubs and especially lounges I frequent...house.

house...

That answer is a bit too broad don't you think? Just pick an umbrella label that like 30% of the music in question falls under, and you have a good shot at predicting it but surely there will be plenty of house which won't be gaining dominance any time soon, I would like a more specific answer than "house".


but then again, I guess "minimal" is pretty broad too, maybe house is a satisfactory answer

Gotta agree with the minimal thing. Won't be long before technoheads are proclaiming Richie Hawtin a sell-out (heck, I think some are already).

Thing to keep in mind is it's not just minimal itself, but all of the similar sub-genres that are garnering the momentum along with it: mono-tone tech house, microhouse, back-to-basic trance (neotrance, I think they're trying to call it), even some prog-psy. Minimal will be the umbrella term to call anything with a stripped-down sound, much like electro became the umbrella term for anything with an analogue sound, or trance became anything with a supersaw. Huge debates will erupt over what is/isn't proper minimal, and passionate fans will dig their trenches into either side, spurring on endless, circular debates regarding the sounds. Old standbys will heckle the new fans of minimal, making glorious claims that they listened to Richie Hawtin only before he sold out (pre-Cocoon era), and that Closer really is a great album.

Possibly.

we seem to have the cycle figured out then, heh

I understand what you mean though, its the same story as "progressive" or "electro" (and maybe even trance)

My gf is absolutely correct: Not ACTUAL mininal as we know it or that has existed in the techno realm for years (Plastikman, T-1000), nor minimal that has existed in the classical realm for decades (Reich, Reilley, Cage). But something that will co-opt mininal, or gain the label minimal in blatant disregard of its history, like electro has done, like trance has done. A minimal strain of house, coming from the microhouse and tech house scene. Not a new thing (Swayzak has been doing it for years), but it will get much more attention soon. I see the Swedish House Mafia have been evolving towards it lately (they are sounding less and less French, and more and more glitchy in the last year....think Pryda - Aftermath)...Mathew Jonson, Jay Tripwire, Mathew Dear, Akufen, Trentemoller (and I LOVE the Trentemoller)...good things ahead. It's not true minimal...but it will be called minimal regardless, because the scene is like that.

goddamn the music industry is getting boring. There's almost no difference in working in a factory or dancing in a club nowadays.

I want flowerpower house with ethnic funky grooves to be the leading genre.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Mathew Dear, Trentemoller (and I LOVE the Trentemoller)

Trentemoller was good. He still hasn't gotten over the fact that he made that remix of "What Else is There?" though, and needs to keep coming up with new stuff like he was at the end of last year.


But don't tell me that means you actually like Matthew Dear.

Mwahaha. That would be great on so many levels.


But I can't possibly imagine labelling Dear as 'minimal.' Anyone who thinks that tracks like "Tide" fall under that label is either lacking a lot of information or functioning ears.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Minimal is the next big buzzword. In two years, everything will be "minimal". Guaranteed.

Minimal's not getting any bigger than it is. It's too chin strokerish for the masses. If you're not into it by now, you're not going to get into it, so I don't see it getting much bigger.

Minimal the NEXT big thing? Erm hello, its huge now, all the magazines have had cover mount 'minimal' mixes in the last few months, look at who is playing Fabric each week etc. This 'Electro' sound is now passe as MOS are raping it and car adverts feature it too, its so dated now. Minimal cant be the next big thing as its already huge and has been for a good couple of years (in its current state).

I personally think minimal peaked last year.

I don't think minimal (techno) can get much bigger really.

If minimalism is the next big thing, it would have to be minimalism applied to some other sort of music, and I doubt that.

I think the next big genre is skastep.

It's Tech-House, maybe Deep House.

"Microhouse" was on its way in but I don't think it's ever really going to fully take over.

Minimal is on its way out already.

I think.

I hope progpsy ISNT the next big thing, simply because then it will turn shit. Lets keep it as it is thanks

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Minimal's not getting any bigger than it is. It's too chin strokerish for the masses. If you're not into it by now, you're not going to get into it, so I don't see it getting much bigger.

No no no no no. Read my first post. NOT ACTUAL MINIMAL....so it won't be pretentious and stupid. It will be something that sounds like minimal, or will be something funky and fun with a simple premise that will fill the clubs, like the current "electro" is......it's not minimal. People will just CALL it minimal. Like how they call everything today electro, even though it's not. Like how you call trance...

Personally i think 'Neo-trance' will be the resurgance of good respected melodic music. Alot of 'minimal' producers are seeping in these melodies and some of these tracks sound like old early 90s 'trance' tracks. Bring back the days of simplified EDM i say, todays stuff most of the time is too polished and not enough placement on the parts that make it stand out.

Eurodance.

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