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LFO needed to create Rank 1 supersaw or not?! (State of Matter tutorial says so)

Hi,

Read the "State Of Matter's Pro-53 Supersaw Pads" tutorial over here: http://trance.nu/v3/article_show.php?id=144. If I understand it right he mentions that you need to use an LFO to create frequency modulation or something? Why do you need an LFO and what does FM (frequency modulation) have to do with creating a supersaw sound?? Anybody can explain what he means with the LFO and FM in that tutorial cause I don't get it!

Do you need an LFO to create the Rank 1 supersaw pad? I didn't know that. I just thought you needed to detune the saws? And what about that Frequency modulation thing that's mentioned in that tutorial??

Anybody can explain all this please? Thanks alot!

Just put a subtle lfo to modulate the pitch so you create a vibrato effect that is not clearly noticable. Imho they overrate this step, it doesn't make much difference.

well, actually i use this trick on almost every synth for emulating a smoother unison effect.

btw. one saw osc and the lfo modulation will create the typical 4 strings sound.

I think the LFO is one of the most important modules in a synthesizer. The LFO and mod matrix is what makes the Virus. I personally think every lead instrument I build sounds shit unless its simulating vibrato. Every pad I build will be modulating pitch, resonance, pulsewidth, filter cutoffs. You name it. Some patches I do all of it at the same time. I dont think you can bring a sound to life unless you put some movement in there.

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Originally posted by Derivative I think the LFO is one of the most important modules in a synthesizer. The LFO and mod matrix is what makes the Virus. I personally think every lead instrument I build sounds shit unless its simulating vibrato. Every pad I build will be modulating pitch, resonance, pulsewidth, filter cutoffs. You name it. Some patches I do all of it at the same time. I dont think you can bring a sound to life unless you put some movement in there.

big +1 to that

could you use an lfo to modulate the number of detuned saw waves? that might sound cool.

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 could you use an lfo to modulate the number of detuned saw waves? that might sound cool.

that would sound strange as there would be jumps. you would better modulate the detune of the unison.

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Originally posted by thecYrus well, actually i use this trick on almost every synth for emulating a smoother unison effect. btw. one saw osc and the lfo modulation will create the typical 4 strings sound.

Yeah, thats a very simple but cool sound. I discovered it myself by accident a while back while messing around with the Malstrom synth in Reason.
I'm starting to use pitch modulation more and more on my patches.
It can sometimes add warmth to a synth.

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Originally posted by DeZmA Just put a subtle lfo to modulate the pitch so you create a vibrato effect that is not clearly noticable. Imho they overrate this step, it doesn't make much difference.

I never use an LFO anyway, because if your not going after a vibrato effect, it just fucks up your tracks tuning.

LFO is a modulation source, it doesn't have to go to pitch (Tuning).

If you use it on filter cuoff, or some other non-pitch destination you can get some cool effects.

Especially if you ahve more than one LFO and the whole shooting match is sync'd to the tempo of your song.

A very quick point:-

LFO > Amplitude = Tremelo
LFO > Pich = Vibrato

And quite often you only need a very small amount to make a big difference..

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Originally posted by Diginerd LFO is a modulation source, it doesn't have to go to pitch (Tuning). If you use it on filter cuoff, or some other non-pitch destination you can get some cool effects. Especially if you ahve more than one LFO and the whole shooting match is sync'd to the tempo of your song. A very quick point:- LFO > Amplitude = Tremelo LFO > Pich = Vibrato And quite often you only need a very small amount to make a big difference..

LFO > Filter = Wah Wah

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