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Posted by dallastar on Aug-01-2006 21:58:

Smiling Frog Will another BLACKOUT happen in Toronto?

Do you think another Blackout will happen in Toronto with the heat rising like this?

I think there might be and I hope I have someone to snuggle with in tha_dark!...


Posted by preppie chick on Aug-01-2006 22:01:

i really hope so, chilling outside with good friends and drinks last time was perf.


Posted by Playa24_7 on Aug-01-2006 22:01:

it wont. were record levels for power consumption, but were still fine, and can import lots. we are a hell of alot better than we were last year. everyone turn your central air even colder, cause were fine.

to the government, build more power plants, we obviously need some here. learn from quebec (can't believe I said that). they are fine, and we are importing energy from them, cause they have lots to spare.


Posted by dallastar on Aug-01-2006 22:02:

quote:
Originally posted by preppie chick
i really hope so, chilling outside with good friends and drinks last time was perf.


let me know where THAT party is at!


Posted by smuncky on Aug-01-2006 22:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Playa24_7


to the government, build more power plants, we obviously need some here.




but not in urban areas. especially in the waterfront area.

quote:
Dim-bulb idea for port lands
Jul. 31, 2006. 08:37 AM
CHRISTOPHER HUME


The news on the waterfront has been so good for so long now, it's easy to forget the one thing that could mess up redevelopment, namely the plan to build a $700 million, 550 megawatt power plant on Unwin Ave. beside the old Hearn Generating Station.

This is land the Toronto Waterfront Revitalization Corp. has slated for a new residential neighbourhood complete with parks and public amenities.

The last thing the area needs is the enormous industrial fixture that Premier Dalton McGuinty is determined to build.

Many experts have tried to tell McGuinty and his cabinet that such a move must be part of a more comprehensive strategy that includes conservation and energy demand management, but so far the province has not taken that message seriously.

Even if Toronto weren't facing rolling blackouts by 2008, which is why the McGuinty government is in such a state, conservation must be a major element of any responsible energy policy.

Which is why the scheme is so misguided. Indeed, it's exactly the sort of thing we shouldn't be doing as a city and a province. And what makes the proposal especially appalling is that there are alternatives.

Experts tell us that just by using electricity intelligently, we could cut 8 per cent of provincial energy use. That may not sound like much, but consider that on a peak day we use about 25,000 megawatts and you can see that it translates into significant savings.

And this reduction could be increased to as much as one-third or more if aggressive energy-saving incentives were introduced.

Until then, the residents of Ontario will remain happily indifferent to the problem. So much for the Canadian image of ourselves as the world's nice guys. In fact, we are the worst per-capita polluters on the planet.

Ironically, one of the most important principles of waterfront regeneration is energy efficiency. Perhaps we won't achieve the same levels of sustainability as have the Swedes, for example, but the intention is to be much smarter than the Toronto norm.

However, despite opposition from Mayor David Miller, city council and the Toronto Waterfront Revitalization Corp., the province has refused to budge.

To add insult to injury, it will build this mega-plant not in the Hearn Generating Station, which now sits empty, but beside it. This is folly. But already trees are being cut down to make way for the construction.

If there's a quick way to kill a neighbourhood, even before it has been built, this could well be it. Who would want to invest � or live � in a development located next to a large industrial complex?

The Independent Electricity System Operator claims that Toronto will need an extra 250 megawatts of power by 2008, 500 megawatts by 2010.

And every summer, it seems, temperatures grow hotter and the demand for power grows with it. We find ourselves trapped in a deadly spiral: increased energy consumption leads to increased emissions, which leads to increased temperatures, which leads to increased energy consumption.

Rather than break that cycle, McGuinty's policy will simply perpetuate it. As well as the port lands proposal, the Liberal government will invest billions in nuclear plants.

And where is Toronto in all this? We don't have much to be proud of. When the calls go out to cut back, most of us ignore them. It's left for the big industrial energy users, the gun pointed squarely at their heads, to do the right thing.

If the waterfront is important to Toronto, it's because it represents our best chance to get it right. The docklands need all the help they can get. The power plant must go somewhere else, perhaps the east side of Leslie St. or the Ashbridge's Bay public utility campus.

Let's hope the light goes on before the electricity goes off.


http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...gepath=GTA/News


Posted by dallastar on Aug-01-2006 23:26:

Cool

I guess we all be chillin' then!

ciao 4 now


Posted by HypnotEyez on Aug-01-2006 23:27:

add a HOPEFULLY option


Posted by Sasha on Aug-01-2006 23:38:

quote:
Originally posted by HypnotEyez
add a HOPEFULLY NOT TOMORROW option



fixed


Posted by infinity HiGH on Aug-01-2006 23:40:

quote:
Originally posted by preppie chick
i really hope so, chilling outside with good friends and drinks last time was perf.


fuckin aye! i missed the last one so i want another one to happen


Posted by StereoPrincess on Aug-01-2006 23:41:

i also had fun.


Posted by HypnotEyez on Aug-01-2006 23:44:

right - ty Sasha


Posted by dallastar on Aug-02-2006 00:04:

I guess that was 2 years ago, I was at work and then went out with RyanM, Nathalie and Dr. Goodvibe - and a couple others. we went down to cherry beach and tried to listen to music out of these little STUpid speakers!


Posted by Tordan on Aug-02-2006 00:25:

doubt a blackout will happen but planned brownouts might be an option if they can't meet electricity demands.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Aug-02-2006 00:32:

I also got right fucked on that blackout night.


Posted by mnemonic. on Aug-02-2006 01:38:

quote:
Originally posted by HypnotEyez
add a HOPEFULLY option


frickin right, the blackout kicked ass...


Posted by magikb on Aug-02-2006 01:41:

quote:
Originally posted by preppie chick
i really hope so, chilling outside with good friends and drinks last time was perf.


I agree

quote:
Originally posted by MikeyN
frickin right, the blackout kicked ass...


maybe at Cam's on Saturday lol


Posted by mnemonic. on Aug-02-2006 02:22:

quote:
Originally posted by magikb

maybe at Cam's on Saturday lol




no music on the patio?



or in any part of the house



hhmmmmm what could make up for no music?

































Cam?....































got any fireworks left????



Posted by twinkie on Aug-02-2006 02:24:

hey, another blackout would be fun, as long as you are not on the subway like I was! it was a terrible experience


Posted by magikb on Aug-02-2006 02:26:

quote:
Originally posted by MikeyN

hhmmmmm what could make up for no music?



more oatmeal cookies??


Posted by 5hiftn6ears on Aug-02-2006 02:27:

I think we were the only city (Grimsby) not affected by the power outage...

In other news, it's not a matter of "running" out of electricity, it's the strain the infastructure has to withstand that fails.


Posted by preppie chick on Aug-02-2006 02:31:

I think that most people that answered 'yes', really mean that 'yes they are hoping for a blackout', rather than actually thinking there'll be one. Well at least that's what I meant...


Posted by Jem_hadar on Aug-02-2006 04:23:

quote:
Originally posted by preppie chick
i really hope so, chilling outside with good friends and drinks last time was perf.


I was still in Waterloo, heandig home the day of hte first one back in 2003 or 2004 I think it was! That summer, in august!

Fucking right!

BeST NIGHT OF MY LIFE in Waterloo!!!

My buddy had a place literally RIGHT ACROSS the street from Johnny Fiascos.... fuck, University Ave was SUCH A SHIT show that night!

Awesome! So awesome! We'd just scored 24s before it happend too! We'd left teh beer store on weber (?) and before we hit our first set of lights, the power had been blown!

I wish I could relive that night!!! I got so stoned and drunk and it was just absolutley CRAZY!


Posted by mnemonic. on Aug-02-2006 05:27:

quote:
Originally posted by magikb
more oatmeal cookies??


frickin right more oatmeal cookies could make up for no music (or electricity) in the house, but making oatmeal cookies in the dark would be dangerous, and should be done with great care as one may spill those precious ingredients, God Forbid...


Posted by newr on Aug-02-2006 13:35:

I sure as hell hope so...

I got my big ass generator ready, my turn tables, mixer, amp and speakers ready for the day it does...

Gonna have a huge party


Posted by dallastar on Aug-02-2006 19:34:

Get this -
I was walking home from work last night at 11pm and all the power was out at yonge/bloor!! spooky . It was funny cause all the dudes from brass Rail were outside, and no power to view the ladies!


I feel like there is a TA here that is hoaxing me that works for hydroworks ontario, reading my threads and shutting off the power
haha just joking


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