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Posted by Paolo Fox on Aug-08-2006 06:23:

Editing your music

Ive been reading alot of threads lately that mention DJs who edit the music they download for various reasons such as changing the intros/outros or bpms just to name a couple. I was curious as to how many of you do this and either way what's your opinion on this?


Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-08-2006 06:36:

Re: Editing your music

Acid. So easy to use, and fun too!

I plan on learning Ableton soon though. At the moment I'm producing on it, but havent learned the whole warping and editing thing yet.


Posted by skip on Aug-08-2006 09:54:

i've edited a couple. mainly editing stupid things out, like the fucking annoying clown laughter in "indiana - do you hear me? (dino lenny remix)". then i've removed some dumb breakdowns and extended some intros and outros on some tracks, as my cdjs don't know how to loop. i have a bunch of other ideas too for some tracks, but i haven't got around to editing them yet.


Posted by T-Soma on Aug-08-2006 11:16:

Depends how much money you have to spend.
If you dont want to spend anything then get Audacity.
If you want to mess around and do some nice looping, time stretching and rearranging i recomend Ableton Live. Even a light edition of some sort should do.


Posted by rustyryan on Aug-08-2006 13:53:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
then i've removed some dumb breakdowns



Posted by stevieboy32808 on Aug-08-2006 14:02:

Re: Re: Editing your music

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
Acid. So easy to use, and fun too!

I plan on learning Ableton soon though. At the moment I'm producing on it, but havent learned the whole warping and editing thing yet.

Hell yeah bro! Just cut and paste. I just wish it had the same feautres as their other sister product Sound Forge. I'm sure you've heard of it. Sound Forge is actually pretty difficult to use for me, but the features are way better than Acid.

So you're producing on Ableton ey? I thought that was just a live performance tool hence the name Live 5.0. Good luck with that.


Posted by T-Soma on Aug-08-2006 14:09:

Ableton live does pretty much everything but actual waveform editing.


Posted by Aquarian on Aug-08-2006 15:46:

I do this alot. When I burn tracks to CD I usually include the original version first and then an edit that has either completely cut breakdowns or loops and breakbeats layered over them.


Posted by stevieboy32808 on Aug-08-2006 17:20:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy
Ableton live does pretty much everything but actual waveform editing.

I never knew that, thanks. That answered my question.


Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-08-2006 17:30:

Re: Re: Re: Editing your music

quote:
Originally posted by stevieboy32808
Hell yeah bro! Just cut and paste. I just wish it had the same feautres as their other sister product Sound Forge. I'm sure you've heard of it. Sound Forge is actually pretty difficult to use for me, but the features are way better than Acid.

So you're producing on Ableton ey? I thought that was just a live performance tool hence the name Live 5.0. Good luck with that.



I use sound forge a lot for editing individual samples... its a very powerful tool in the right hands. HUGE learning curve, but impressive results can be had.

Yeah ableton and reason. Rewire is my friend. Reason for my sounds because I'm so incredibly familiar with that app and ableton for sequencing, mixing etc, because its so easy to easy and sounds good.


btw new mix up like nothing you've ever heard from me, because I know you started to lose interest in the house I was playing...


Posted by nchs09 on Aug-08-2006 17:35:

use the same shit ricky ryan uses ....


and b0p!... instant magik


Posted by Ryan0751 on Aug-08-2006 17:49:

Ableton is probably best for re-edits... since the tempo is strictly maintained. Cutting and pasting in an audio editor will likely lead to tracks which are a total B&*TCH to mix with.

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
use the same shit ricky ryan uses ....


and b0p!... instant magik


Posted by spacetrip on Aug-10-2006 14:43:

Quick question about Soundforge: can it be used as a multi track editor like Adobe Audition. If it can how do you bring this mode up?

Thanks.


Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-10-2006 16:18:

quote:
Originally posted by spacetrip
Quick question about Soundforge: can it be used as a multi track editor like Adobe Audition. If it can how do you bring this mode up?

Thanks.


No. But it can be rewired I believe...


Posted by SuPeRSaW2005 on Aug-14-2006 04:42:

for me this is what works and has been working for a while now:

live production --> used to be traktor, but now a JOKE next to ableton live

post production --> soundforge (great for trimming, cutting, pasting, adding effects to sound already created)

"production" production --> FL studio and Cubase (depends which you're more comfortable with)



Posted by T-Soma on Aug-14-2006 05:24:

quote:
Originally posted by SuPeRSaW2005
for me this is what works and has been working for a while now:

live production --> used to be traktor, but now a JOKE next to ableton live

post production --> soundforge (great for trimming, cutting, pasting, adding effects to sound already created)

"production" production --> FL studio and Cubase (depends which you're more comfortable with)


I dont want this to sound asif im taking you down or anything but by post production you mean editing waveforms and such. By production production you mean sequencing and composing? I wouldnt limit it to cubase and fl. Ableton live is just as good as fl for producing if not better. If you have a mac make sure not to look past Logic.


Posted by Zild on Aug-14-2006 17:00:

I think I'm going to edit my tracks to be the same BPM.


Posted by OTtrancer on Aug-16-2006 19:08:

The whole production and editing has been on my mind for some time too after having been dj'ing now for several years. The learning curves on these softwares are quite intimidating....does anyone know of a cheap, if not free, place to watch video tutorials? If video's are not available, written tutorials are good too, as long as they come recommended by someone who has already benefited. Ableton Live sounds like the one that I would be most interested in but Cubase for production came recommended to me. THanks in advance!!


Posted by Paolo Fox on Aug-17-2006 04:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I think I'm going to edit my tracks to be the same BPM.


This is the type of stuff I was originally talking about. Not that I'm either for or against it but what is everyone's opinion? And talking about sequencers what about Pro Tools?


Posted by razzi on Aug-17-2006 06:06:

quote:
then i've removed some dumb breakdowns



amen, thank you acid.


razzi.


Posted by b i n k u n on Aug-17-2006 14:15:

quote:
Originally posted by djkoifloor
This is the type of stuff I was originally talking about. Not that I'm either for or against it but what is everyone's opinion? And talking about sequencers what about Pro Tools?


Protools is the most advanced sequencer in my opinion...but is used mainly for recording purposes. That's assuming you have the money for their top-end products tho. As a sequencer for dance music composition...I think it's overly complicated and you are better off with cubase/logic/live. Just my opinion though.


Posted by KilldaDJ on Aug-19-2006 12:38:

yeah i like to edit my music, not always but sometimes it is appropriate, like adding an extra layer of beats on top of a weak sounding track and just stuff like that to make the mix seem a bit more natural and smoother sounding etc


Posted by brian on Aug-22-2006 22:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
I do this alot. When I burn tracks to CD I usually include the original version first and then an edit that has either completely cut breakdowns or loops and breakbeats layered over them.


Same here. Other times I'll be in love with a track but hate its intro our outro, and end up extending it or toning it down a bit, or whatever the case may be.

I think a lot of folks do this--not only because it can fix something like a ridiculously short intro or remove obnoxious breakdowns, but because it makes their mix even more personal...which is a pretty nice feeling.

I don't like people who make the most insignificant adjustments just for the sake of putting their name all over the tracklist, though. That's tacky.



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