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Posted by dcougar99 on Aug-08-2006 20:11:

Question Evolution question.....................



if we came from apes... then where did the ape come from? anyone have a chart that goes from the VERY beginning


Posted by D-res on Aug-08-2006 20:12:

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is this a serious question?


Posted by Marc Summers on Aug-08-2006 20:13:

um, god put us on the earth

lol


Posted by jonSun on Aug-08-2006 20:17:

We didnt come from apes.


Posted by Marc Summers on Aug-08-2006 20:19:

quote:
Originally posted by jonSun
We didnt come from apes.


which is true because the apes of today took a different path of evolution than us.


Posted by dcougar99 on Aug-08-2006 20:22:

quote:
Originally posted by D-res
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is this a serious question?



yeah sure it is... i dont think i ever saw a chart that goes from the start... they all just show an ape to human.


Posted by dcougar99 on Aug-08-2006 20:24:

i happen to think we came from God... not apes


Posted by jonSun on Aug-08-2006 20:26:

quote:
Originally posted by dcougar99
i happen to think we came from God... not apes


Me too & the earth is only about 6000 yrs old & dinosaurs & humans used to live together.


Posted by RandomGirl on Aug-08-2006 20:26:

quote:
Originally posted by dcougar99
i happen to think we came from God... not apes


So in other words, you are trying to dispute the evolution theory by asking what came before the ape.

I personally believe the evolution theory is total B.S. However, I will openly admit that I don't know a whole lot about the specifics in regards to this theory.


Posted by DigitalPhoenix on Aug-08-2006 20:26:

Nevar ending question...


Posted by dcougar99 on Aug-08-2006 20:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
So in other words, you are trying to dispute the evolution theory by asking what came before the ape.

I personally believe the evolution theory is total B.S. However, I will openly admit that I don't know a whole lot about the specifics in regards to this theory.



not dispute just become more informed of part of the theory that i dont know about...


Posted by Subey on Aug-08-2006 20:30:

The original mammal is a little mouse thing.

The way I look at evolution is base * base = X

base creature * its base = X
mouse thing * Tree = Monkey

(the previous is supposed to be confusing)

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I would point out the following... what's the best thing that ever happened to Mammals?

The destruction of the dinosaurs. Its one thing to have an anteloppe and a lion compete. Its another for a little mouse to try and replace a tryanosaurus rex.

I.e. No mammals have replaced Crocodiles/Aligators for a reason


Posted by Spacey Orange on Aug-08-2006 20:36:

quote:
Originally posted by dcougar99
i happen to think we came from God... not apes


i posted my own theory in another thread, and i'll kindly repost it for you.

quote:
Didn't you know, all life as we know it began in an alien's anus. One day it happend to be in this area of the solar system, when it suffered the misfortune of breaking the handle to the loo. So it stuck it's ass outside of the space ship and sharted many many times. Some of this shart-matter, by means of the gravitational pull, stuck to some specks of rock. This rock then stuck together to other rocks and so forth, until it was covered and protected by other rocks. Eventually this was sucked by the gravitaional pull of the earth and some of the this shart-matter somehow made it through the the atmosphere.


Posted by Yan on Aug-08-2006 20:36:

I'm sure plenty of you have heard about scientists constantly searching for something called the "missing link".

Well that's the ancestor that we can't seem to locate that will finally show the clear cut division of apes and humans.


Posted by Aquarian on Aug-08-2006 20:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
I personally believe the evolution theory is total B.S. However, I will openly admit that I don't know a whole lot about the specifics in regards to this theory.


If you have any logical argument for that I'd like to hear it


Posted by Subey on Aug-08-2006 20:41:

Buffalo girls won't you come out tonight


Posted by The Greek on Aug-08-2006 21:10:

As stated, apes took their own path from a primary primate.

An important note: just because something is called a theory. does not mean it is fair game to dispute. The Pythagorean theorem is a theory in mathematics, but I see no creationists arguing its validity.

The "missing link" argument is an invalid one. This was brought up by people that tried to tie the jump from apes to humans. There is no such jump and no scientist has ever said there was. Apes did not become humans, or else there would not be any apes around today. They came from a common ancestor, and there have been numerous skeletons discovered that show the progression of the primate brain and its adopting of the upright position. Lucy, anyone?

Finally, I would like to add a personal note. People who believe the creationists' story have an unwillingness to let go of something when it becomes obvious that their belief was false. My mother has no legitimate response when I present scientific information to her. She asked me, "Well, if all that you say is true, then are you telling me that there is no God?" If someone came up to you and told you all that you believed so passionately was all false, wouldn't you also be upset and in denial?


Posted by Omega_M on Aug-08-2006 21:10:

Pssh..that's the past. Who cares. Future looks interesting


Posted by Blake on Aug-08-2006 21:20:

Jeez, the original question is straight out of highschool biology class. You can google more complete evolution charts.


Posted by Subey on Aug-08-2006 21:25:

quote:
Originally posted by The Greek
Lucy, anyone?


Forget Lucy! The Beatles poisoned her.

My favourite link of course is Ardipithecus RAM id US

Come to think of it I think they found the oldest example of human art near BerekHAT RAM.


Posted by dcougar99 on Aug-08-2006 21:30:

quote:
Originally posted by The Greek
As stated, apes took their own path from a primary primate.

An important note: just because something is called a theory. does not mean it is fair game to dispute. The Pythagorean theorem is a theory in mathematics, but I see no creationists arguing its validity.

The "missing link" argument is an invalid one. This was brought up by people that tried to tie the jump from apes to humans. There is no such jump and no scientist has ever said there was. Apes did not become humans, or else there would not be any apes around today. They came from a common ancestor, and there have been numerous skeletons discovered that show the progression of the primate brain and its adopting of the upright position. Lucy, anyone?

Finally, I would like to add a personal note. People who believe the creationists' story have an unwillingness to let go of something when it becomes obvious that their belief was false. My mother has no legitimate response when I present scientific information to her. She asked me, "Well, if all that you say is true, then are you telling me that there is no God?" If someone came up to you and told you all that you believed so passionately was all false, wouldn't you also be upset and in denial?



so where did this "common ancestor" come from? what did it evolve from


Posted by Yan on Aug-08-2006 21:34:

quote:
Originally posted by The Greek
As stated, apes took their own path from a primary primate.

An important note: just because something is called a theory. does not mean it is fair game to dispute. The Pythagorean theorem is a theory in mathematics, but I see no creationists arguing its validity.

The "missing link" argument is an invalid one. This was brought up by people that tried to tie the jump from apes to humans. There is no such jump and no scientist has ever said there was. Apes did not become humans, or else there would not be any apes around today. They came from a common ancestor, and there have been numerous skeletons discovered that show the progression of the primate brain and its adopting of the upright position. Lucy, anyone?

Finally, I would like to add a personal note. People who believe the creationists' story have an unwillingness to let go of something when it becomes obvious that their belief was false. My mother has no legitimate response when I present scientific information to her. She asked me, "Well, if all that you say is true, then are you telling me that there is no God?" If someone came up to you and told you all that you believed so passionately was all false, wouldn't you also be upset and in denial?


I'm referring to the 'common ancestor' as said 'missing link'.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Aug-08-2006 21:52:

quote:
Originally posted by dcougar99
so where did this "common ancestor" come from? what did it evolve from



From a tiny little unicellular microbe. Well, billions of years ago at least.


Posted by Cloudburst on Aug-08-2006 22:12:

quote:
Originally posted by The Greek
As stated, apes took their own path from a primary primate.

An important note: just because something is called a theory. does not mean it is fair game to dispute. The Pythagorean theorem is a theory in mathematics, but I see no creationists arguing its validity.

The "missing link" argument is an invalid one. This was brought up by people that tried to tie the jump from apes to humans. There is no such jump and no scientist has ever said there was. Apes did not become humans, or else there would not be any apes around today. They came from a common ancestor, and there have been numerous skeletons discovered that show the progression of the primate brain and its adopting of the upright position. Lucy, anyone?

Finally, I would like to add a personal note. People who believe the creationists' story have an unwillingness to let go of something when it becomes obvious that their belief was false. My mother has no legitimate response when I present scientific information to her. She asked me, "Well, if all that you say is true, then are you telling me that there is no God?" If someone came up to you and told you all that you believed so passionately was all false, wouldn't you also be upset and in denial?


I think you could believe in God even if man wasn't created as it says in the bible. (Note, I'm not religious at all.) There are religious scientists who thinks the proof that God exist is how everything in universe can be so perfectly explained by math for instance. They think there has to be a reason why everything is so "perfect" and just not chaos.

And yeah, I fully believe in the evolution theory. They have even proved Darwin right, by studying some animal (I think it was a bird) on an island somewhere (sorry I don't remember names) that he studied and they had evolved since Darwin first studied them.

Uh yeah I'm rambling. Gonna watch CSI soon.


Posted by colonelcrisp on Aug-08-2006 22:16:

Theresa is a creationist?????


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