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Posted by thernan on Aug-09-2006 10:51:

Before buying a new computer?

Hey guys! Time to buy a new computer so I can start produce some... But what should i think about before i buy it?
Thx in advance!
Thernan

Posted by dj alliance on Aug-09-2006 11:10:

Buy a mac is all you need to think about Windows for PCs is rank. PERSONAL OPINION.

Make sure what you have is compatable with the computer software. IE. the new MACs will have problems. Windows XP SP2 has problems with certain graphics cards, so you have to think about that, there is a patch to download but if your XP SP2 is integarted with Windows when you install it you are pretty much fooked.

Posted by Low Profile on Aug-09-2006 17:48:

the f**k?? You can't put out a statement like "Windows has issues with graphics card"... man, that's stupid. Any problem can be fixed.
And then it's time for my ramble :
Buy a Mac if you wipe your ass with money, don't want the ability to upgrade your computer with time, like to be tied down to one company (I am *not* a slave to Microsoft, ehem... ), and like shiny white packaging...
Buy a Dual Core PC if you want power, flexibility to build a system by your own specs and versatility. Intel Conroe Dual Core CPUs are currently the fastest running processors on the market, and you can build a bone crushing PC system for the price you'll pay for the cheapest Mac G5.

Anyway, I don't know what graphics issue Dj Alliance had on windows, but there is certainly nothing wrong with XP Service pack, it won't "fook up your system" as he said...

...waiiit, mac geeks, don't kill me just yet!

It all comes down to preference. If you like mac, buy mac, if you like PCs, buy a PC, either way just make sure you get a system that suits your needs. It is my experience that Macs are a bit expensive, and tend to break, the laptops anyway (then again, I can't say Windows is flawless either... ), but maybe I have a bad and biased view of Apple, I don't know. At least this is my point of view and you can either accept what I have to say or reject it... it's just my 2 cent.

If you decide to get a PC, get a dual core CPU, I just can't stress this enough! These things will change your life (especially the Core 2 Duo / Conroe CPUs, they are the fastest x86 processors ever built, and go for VERY cheap, compared to what they offer)

Posted by david.michael on Aug-09-2006 18:32:

quote:
Originally posted by dj alliance
Buy a mac is all you need to think about Windows for PCs is rank. PERSONAL OPINION.

Make sure what you have is compatable with the computer software. IE. the new MACs will have problems. Windows XP SP2 has problems with certain graphics cards, so you have to think about that, there is a patch to download but if your XP SP2 is integarted with Windows when you install it you are pretty much fooked.

lol......

Where do you get this from?

I am both a Mac and PC user, btw.

Posted by dj alliance on Aug-10-2006 17:01:

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
lol......

Where do you get this from?

I am both a Mac and PC user, btw.

I CANT USE MY GRAPHICS CARD UNLESS I DOWNLOAD THE APPRORPIATE PATCH...WINDOWS SP2 CONFLICTS WITH CERTAIN GRAPHICS CARDS. GO TO THEIR SITE FOR MORE INFO.

Posted by dj alliance on Aug-10-2006 17:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Low Profile
the f**k?? You can't put out a statement like "Windows has issues with graphics card"...

GO TO WINDOWS SITE AND CONTACT THEM FOR CLARIFICATION MUPPET.

Posted by Derivative on Aug-10-2006 17:24:

You are incredibly annoying.

Posted by david.michael on Aug-10-2006 17:38:

Wow.

Posted by Coup on Aug-10-2006 17:47:

Posted by Sinnica Hax on Aug-11-2006 04:09:

heh, in fact the PC rocks for producing, dont know what PvD and others who flamed PC did with their equipment to make it "buggy" as he said himself. Mac users just think they�re cool and its cool to flame PC :P it's just about choosing the right components and you're set imo

Posted by deceptikon on Aug-11-2006 07:55:

quote:
Originally posted by dj alliance
I CANT USE MY GRAPHICS CARD UNLESS I DOWNLOAD THE APPRORPIATE PATCH...WINDOWS SP2 CONFLICTS WITH CERTAIN GRAPHICS CARDS. GO TO THEIR SITE FOR MORE INFO.

They are called drivers mate. All hardware has drivers, even the stuff you plug into a mac.

PS. I don't think your Voodoo 2 was designed to work with Win XP.

Carry on.

Posted by Stuart Silver on Aug-11-2006 15:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Derivative
You are incredibly annoying.

+1

quote:
Originally posted by dj alliance
GO TO WINDOWS SITE AND CONTACT THEM FOR CLARIFICATION MUPPET.

Arrgggg, you're a complete tool - stop going all CAPS everytime someone disputes something you say.

Posted by cronodevir on Aug-11-2006 19:44:

Posted by Low Profile on Aug-11-2006 23:32:

quote:
Originally posted by dj alliance
GO TO WINDOWS SITE AND CONTACT THEM FOR CLARIFICATION MUPPET.

dude, just get a new graphics card that works, you can get Ati X300 for like 40 bucks these days, and they are guarenteed to work, you should be able to afford it, after all that money you spent on Macs and buying plugins on eBay, it shouldn't be too much of an investment for you!

And please don't call me a muppet, it truly hurt my feelings!

Posted by lazybassplayer on Aug-16-2006 03:53:

In an attempt to get back on topic...

The benefits of having a PC are that you can custom build one to be used solely for music production. If you don't regularly surf the net on your PC and use high quality components without a lot of other junk on the computer, it can be a very stable machine.

A Mac is almost like a set it and forget it machine. Its stupidly simply to gets started and is a fairly stable system, but there are constant OS upgrades and its difficult to upgrade components once your computer becomes relatively obsolete.

Its really a personal choice, since most major software runs on both types of systems. If you're going Pro Tools, I'd go with a mac, but for other software, a PC might be better. Also, you can upgrade the internal sound card on a PC instead of being limited to USB and Firewire interfaces for a mac.

Posted by Zombie0915 on Aug-17-2006 00:02:

you can stick maudio delta's in the macs that hav pci slots, granted only the priciest of macs have those slots, but you can seriously buy those cards right off a shelf and stick them in a mac.

not an imac, macmooc or mac mini though, only the pro towers.

Posted by djillicit on Aug-17-2006 01:02:

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Originally posted by lazybassplayer
...Also, you can upgrade the internal sound card on a PC instead of being limited to USB and Firewire interfaces for a mac.

then again... why would you want to upgrade the internal sound card when you're using a proper external one?

i'm at this stage also of making a mac vs pc decision. in all honesty, it doesn't matter which format you go with as long as you're comfortable using it. that said, it's both cheaper, and very feasible to put together a stable PC as long as the components you choose to use work well together. so if you're going for a desktop, take your pick. put together a PC yourself and save some money, or shell out the extra dough for a nice, stable mac desktop.

going for a laptop? then i'd most definitely head for a mac when it comes to stability, especially when it comes to working with hardware components, midi, and lots of memory intensive software.