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Denon vs. Pioneer... help me decide

Right,
I think it's about time I upgraded my mixer. The DXM-06 is fine and I still like it but pretty soon I'm going to be needing more than 2 channels, so...

I've pretty much narrowed my options down to two:
Denon DN-X1500S
Pioneer DJM 600S

Now, these are pretty much the same price (the Denon is slightly cheaper but not much, really) and the functions are pretty much the same as well (Denon has digital out and USB support but that's about it) and I can't really make up my mind. Which one would you choose and why? Or is there something in the same price range (�800-1000) I should choose over the two?

I'm looking for useful comments, so no "you have to get Pioneer because it's Pioneer, idiot!" stuff, please

Test them, that's all I can say.

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Originally posted by DJ_Progrezz Test them, that's all I can say.

I would if I could, but it's quite impossible around here...

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I would if I could, but it's quite impossible around here...

i think the denon is fun because of the sampler, and you might also enjoy the effects, it had more functions than the pio and has an lcd screen, but the faders are shorter i believe

just sum up what functions the mixers have and judge by that

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Originally posted by DJ_Progrezz i think the denon is fun because of the sampler, and you might also enjoy the effects, it had more functions than the pio and has an lcd screen, but the faders are shorter i believe just sum up what functions the mixers have and judge by that

Hmm, well, I don't really use effects or samplers much, though they are fun to have around.

I already said the mixers have quite a lot of same functions. What I'd really like to know how easily they break, how loose the faders are, issues with sound quality etc.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Hmm, well, I don't really use effects or samplers much, though they are fun to have around. I already said the mixers have quite a lot of same functions. What I'd really like to know how easily they break, how loose the faders are, issues with sound quality etc.

sound is again a personal thing

maybe you should also check the nuo series from ecler, I really like them because of the buttons, the are big and easy to handle.

i think the pioneer is most roadproof because it is used alot by rental companies

I'd get something else but between them I'd get the Denon. It has better build and sound quality as far as I can tell. I've used the other Denons that are similar without the FX and they're solid. And I've used the 600, I think every DJ and DJ wannabe in the world has. I might get something like the x500 and an A&H VF1. Is that what the filter units are called?

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Originally posted by Zild I'd get something else but between them I'd get the Denon. It has better build and sound quality as far as I can tell. I've used the other Denons that are similar without the FX and they're solid. And I've used the 600, I think every DJ and DJ wannabe in the world has. I might get something like the x500 and an A&H VF1. Is that what the filter units are called?

Hmm, so the x500 is basically the same mixer without the FX then? That would be a pretty good idea, actually...

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Or maybe Ecler Nuo 4? Damnit, too many options...

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Or is there something in the same price range (�800-1000) I should choose over the two?

Depends, the xone:62 has 4 band EQ per channel, 2 filters and the sound quality is superb, hell with �1000 you might find a used :92. None of them have any efx, which could be a good sign for some.

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Originally posted by spolitta Depends, the xone:62 has 4 band EQ per channel, 2 filters and the sound quality is superb, hell with �1000 you might find a used :92. None of them have any efx, which could be a good sign for some.

No, that's out of the question. �1000 is the absolute highest I can go and even then I'd rather not go that high...

The Nuo 4 has a lot of midi controller functionality you probably don't need, but it is still a great four channel mixer.

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Originally posted by Zild The Nuo 4 has a lot of midi controller functionality you probably don't need, but it is still a great four channel mixer.

Well, actually, the midi controller would come in handy in the next year or two.

a NUO4/NUO5 will have better sound and build quality compared to the DNX-1500 and DJM-600. Those might be the best choice. Myabe the XONE:62 as well.

I'd also recommend something from Ecler over either of those two, however if it came down to it, my .02 on those two mixers is only that I didn't particulary care for the way the Denon mixer felt, which isn't to say that I thought the DJM was a ton better, but in general I just liked the EQ's/response on the DJM better than the DN-X1500S.

I'm sure that didn't really help at all.

Let's not forget that the djm-600 is outdated and can never ever be updated whereas the denon has firmware upgrades.

btw there is actually a new denon dns-x1500...its teh dns-x1500s.

EDIT: also there is a matrix input assignment feature on the denon making it so you can choose which device goes to which channel.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery No, that's out of the question. �1000 is the absolute highest I can go and even then I'd rather not go that high...

Hmm, the xone:62 is only �700 brand new, prices are certainly different in your country, used xone:62 goes around �500.

i've used the djm and the x1500

i like the djm because after 2 years of club abuse ours is still going strong, the effects are nice (i'm not much of an effects guy, less is more), i've seen djs blow crowds away with the effects though
you get what you pay for with the djm

the x1500 is a pretty good mixer, especially for bedroom use
i like the matrix inputs, allows creativity with the effects
the downside is you have to tap your bpm (it's not read like the djm)
and it didn't seem as rugged as the djm

also, i've never encountered an x1500 in a club, usually the djm 500/600

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Originally posted by spdandpwr btw there is actually a new denon dns-x1500...its teh dns-x1500s.

Yes, that is why I put the 1500S down as my option and not the 1500.

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Hmm, the xone:62 is only �700 brand new

The lowest price I've seen was 1100.

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Originally posted by Tony Morello i've used the djm and the x1500 i like the djm because after 2 years of club abuse ours is still going strong, the effects are nice (i'm not much of an effects guy, less is more), i've seen djs blow crowds away with the effects though you get what you pay for with the djm the x1500 is a pretty good mixer, especially for bedroom use i like the matrix inputs, allows creativity with the effects the downside is you have to tap your bpm (it's not read like the djm) and it didn't seem as rugged as the djm also, i've never encountered an x1500 in a club, usually the djm 500/600

on the denon website it says that the bpm is 3 way...auto/tap/manual

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Yes, that is why I put the 1500S down as my option and not the 1500.

sorry just saw so many x1500 in the posts that i thought that people weren't aware.

Heh, no worries

The more I think about it the more I want the Denon... I think it'd be just right for me.

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Originally posted by spdandpwr on the denon website it says that the bpm is 3 way...auto/tap/manual

didn't know that, i'll try find that next time i use one

but wouldn't tap be the same as manual?

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Originally posted by Tony Morello didn't know that, i'll try find that next time i use one but wouldn't tap be the same as manual?

yeah when i was reading it i was like wtf? i didn't read the instruction manual, though, maybe its mentioned there.

btw there are a lot of people who seem to have this mixer on the boards...pming then would be a nice way to getting their opinion.

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