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A new digusting act

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4778575.stm

Well done MI5 good job! I fly to New York on the 22nd. These animals need to be stopped.

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Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan Please read http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4778575.stm Well done MI5 good job! I fly to New York on the 22nd. These animals need to be stopped.

Agree totally, you beat me to the posting so I deleted mine. But I am sure some on here will blame the UK, US, Bush and others rather than to blame these animals that do this in a name of some God? All that will become of this is more loss of liberties on both sides of the pond. Lets see how this will play out..

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Originally posted by LazFX Agree totally, you beat me to the posting so I deleted mine. But I am sure some on here will blame the UK, US, Bush and others rather than to blame these animals that do this in a name of some God? All that will become of this is more loss of liberties on both sides of the pond. Lets see how this will play out..

As always blame the governments of Western Countries The part which digusts me the most is their most probably British born. I hate them their barbarians who want the world to revert back to the dark ages.

^^^^ This is what I am trying to grasp.... Why would anyone want to live by the ideals these "animals" want to force down the west's throat?? Do they really want to stay in thier present state? DO they want to continue to not have equal rights for women, other faiths and so forth. Now mind you I am not speaking of the modern muslim person, I know many personaly and there is one here on the boards that I have much respect for, but these radicals are just trying to keep a noble culture in the Dark Ages.
Funny thing is, most of the "supporters" here on the boards would possibly be targets them selves for listening to Trance and enjoying themselves at thier local dance clubs. Ironic??

I mean would Osama, the guy that heads Hezbola or the Radical Clerics that preach the destruction of Israel, the West and all things not Muslim go to a PVD concert??

I hope that you all see now what we (Israel) is dealing with everyday and fighting now for our freedom and peace.

O'Callaghan FTW

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Originally posted by LazFX ^^^^ This is what I am trying to grasp.... Why would anyone want to live by the ideals these "animals" want to force down the west's throat?? Do they really want to stay in thier present state? DO they want to continue to not have equal rights for women, other faiths and so forth. Now mind you I am not speaking of the modern muslim person, I know many personaly and there is one here on the boards that I have much respect for, but these radicals are just trying to keep a noble culture in the Dark Ages. Funny thing is, most of the "supporters" here on the boards would possibly be targets them selves for listening to Trance and enjoying themselves at thier local dance clubs. Ironic?? I mean would Osama, the guy that heads Hezbola or the Radical Clerics that preach the destruction of Israel, the West and all things not Muslim go to a PVD concert??

Take Afghanistan for an example when the Taleban came into power they executed every educated person they could find, Doctors, Teachers, and Professors etc. Destroyed old cultural sites which could attract tourism to the country. These people want the world to live in the stone age.

Exactly there is decent Muslims out there, but the amount of extermists seems to be rising. I watched a documentary this monday about British Muslims, they say that younger Muslims aged 18-30 are three times more religious then there parents and grandparents following more militant versions of Islam.

I would shut down the majority of mosques in the UK, because there is always some Arab mullah, who claims benefits of hard working people, has taken up asylum in the UK, who is encouraging people to blow Westerners up including the people who granted him asylum. It makes me angry.

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Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan I would shut down the majority of mosques in the UK, because there is always some Arab mullah, who claims benefits of hard working people, has taken up asylum in the UK, who is encouraging people to blow Westerners up including the people who granted him asylum. It makes me angry.

If more crap happens on both sides of the Atlantic, then I am afraid thats what is going to happen, the people, muslims, will think it is an attack on thier society when in actuality, it is not. It is going to take the moderate muslims to stand up and take thier faith back away from the radicals, they are going to have to have thier version of the "Reformation" as the Christians did. They cannot allow thier religion to be dictated by a few backward country cave dwelling, blow up ancient wonders, as the Towlaban did, bumpkins.
But on the same side, the west is going to have to support and understand this and not alienate all muslims. A tight rope me thinks.

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Originally posted by Dj Alex (ISR) I hope that you all see now what we (Israel) is dealing with everyday and fighting now for our freedom and peace.

Yups Lebanese were going to blow your planes, they were planning it too; why dont you try to make a connection with Chechenya problem to your problem too!

I bet this world just needs one more terror attack at the scale of 9/11; and no matter who does it; Middle East will be completely colonised. You will not leave one opportunity to fully leverage it.

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Originally posted by Purple Yups Lebanese were going to blow your planes, they were planning it too; why dont you try to make a connection with Chechenya problem to your problem too! I bet this world just needs one more terror attack at the scale of 9/11; and no matter who does it; Middle East will be completely colonised. You will not leave one opportunity to fully leverage it.

Stop talking bullshit. please.

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Originally posted by Purple Yups Lebanese were going to blow your planes, they were planning it too; why dont you try to make a connection with Chechenya problem to your problem too! I bet this world just needs one more terror attack at the scale of 9/11; and no matter who does it; Middle East will be completely colonised. You will not leave one opportunity to fully leverage it.

So you support the this type of actions then?? Like 911, the bombing of dance clubs in the islands, the london tube bombings and so forth, you relish that the people you support are gutless chickens, that run and hide behind women and children that have no problems killing other muslims?
Enlighten me please,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4778575.stm

More updates 21 arrested, British born and have links to Pakistan oh yes just like the bombers of the underground last year.

Pakistan needs to seriously pull their finger out their arse, there is terrorist camps operating the country, they can barely control certain areas of it which border Afghanistan.

British Muslims go to Pakistan to learn to make bombs oh sorry I meant study, then suddenely come back terrorists. I say the intelligence service need to focus greatly on people visiting there for so called studys.

I agree LazFX it is a very tight rope, the problem faced in the UK too is the far right or British National Party (BNP) as there better know are winning seats especially in Northern regions which have a high Asian population, if they manage to pull an attack off there will be serious civil unrest.

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I bet this world just needs one more terror attack at the scale of 9/11; and no matter who does it; Middle East will be completely colonised. You will not leave one opportunity to fully leverage it.

Agreed anything on that scale again would cause serious problems. There was 3 airlines targeted supposidly numbering between 9-10 flights. There is around 300 something odd people on flights across the Atlantic, detonated midair I'd say you'd be pretty much fucked if you were aboard so easily over 2500 dead if they got all the planes.

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Originally posted by Dj Alex (ISR) Stop talking bullshit. please.

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Originally posted by LazFX So you support the this type of actions then?? Like 911, the bombing of dance clubs in the islands, the london tube bombings and so forth, you relish that the people you support are gutless chickens, that run and hide behind women and children that have no problems killing other muslims? Enlighten me please,

No I dont.

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Originally posted by Purple No I dont.

so if you don't support, but you seem happy everytime there is a new threat, bomb or what ever.... interesting... so what are you like 12 years old or something??

actually let me rephrase that, You always come in with some snide remark that equates you be happy about it.

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Originally posted by LazFX so if you don't support, but you seem happy everytime there is a new threat, bomb or what ever.... interesting... so what are you like 12 years old or something??

I dont know from where did you got that I am happy in this thread; and that I support it. Please read my previous post again; I think you misunderstood it.

Makes you wonder why the UK was never targetted by Islamists before the Iraq war doesnt it?



FWIW...

The Islamist threat in the UK is thanks to the Madrasses in Pakistan. Radical Islamists brain wash British born Muslims and send them to Pakistan for "religious education" where they are subjected to more brain washing and are given the training to carry out terrorist attacks over here (and elsewhere). Al-Qaida is currently based in Pakistan where the government is pretending to battle against them. The two real targets in the War on Terror should have been Pakistan and Saudi Arabia after Afghanistan - NOT IRAQ.

The UK has never been targetted by Islamic terrorists before we went to war with Iraq, and even the July 4th bombers said they did it because of Iraq, so how people can say the UK government has not contributed to the brain washing of these Islamists is beyond me.

Groups of people have always felt an affinity with each other. Muslims are no different, and when countries are perceived (rightly or wrongly) to be acting against that group of people it makes brain washing them so much more easier...

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Originally posted by George Smiley Groups of people have always felt an affinity with each other. Muslims are no different, and when countries are perceived (rightly or wrongly) to be acting against that group of people it makes brain washing them so much more easier...

and see that is where the tight rope lies, now that the can of worms has opened in the UK, how does the UK stop this with out adding fuel to the sterno,

now that is the question... If you bend to the "animals" and get out of whats pissing them off, then whats next, whats going to stop them from blowing shit up the next time this same group feels its getting treated bad?

If you start to round up and cease civil liberties to control the spread of the animal's ideals, the UK runs the risk of adding more to the animal's cause.

p.s. sorry if any TA Terrorists Supporters gets upset with the animal tag, but to take another person's life just because you hate them, or your Mullah tells yous that all non muslims are infidels is not Human in my eyes.

Well the Iraq War was completely unnecessary regarding the War on Terror, so how about no more unneccessary military action against Muslim countries so that America can have an excuse to put into actin it's neoconservative plans for global dominance?

Iraq might have been neccessary for other reasons but there would have been a time and place for that and in the middle of a war against 'Terror' is not that time.

America has the power to resolve the Israel/Palestine conflict, so lets start there. Next (or before in my opinion) $$$s should have been poured into Lebanon to make it one of the most prosperous countries in the world.

Why don't America spend as much money on development programs in Palestine or other Muslim countries as it does on propping up Israel or Saudi Arabia? Why do you think Hamas won the election?

There is SHIT loads we can do to win their 'hearts and minds' but we have done FUCK ALL, all we have done so far is blow a hole through their minds with missiles and made sure their heart is now permanently located about 3 foot to their left.

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Originally posted by George Smiley Makes you wonder why the UK was never targetted by Islamists before the Iraq war doesnt it? FWIW... The Islamist threat in the UK is thanks to the Madrasses in Pakistan. Radical Islamists brain wash British born Muslims and send them to Pakistan for "religious education" where they are subjected to more brain washing and are given the training to carry out terrorist attacks over here (and elsewhere). Al-Qaida is currently based in Pakistan where the government is pretending to battle against them. The two real targets in the War on Terror should have been Pakistan and Saudi Arabia after Afghanistan - NOT IRAQ. The UK has never been targetted by Islamic terrorists before we went to war with Iraq, and even the July 4th bombers said they did it because of Iraq, so how people can say the UK government has not contributed to the brain washing of these Islamists is beyond me. Groups of people have always felt an affinity with each other. Muslims are no different, and when countries are perceived (rightly or wrongly) to be acting against that group of people it makes brain washing them so much more easier...

People will naturually blaim it on Iraq let's just forget it. An Islamic extermist would target us anyway because we're Western, the next excuse would be we support Israel, next we're the USA's ally, then we're a country full of Aethists & Christians, then we're imbeciles and they dislike our lifestyles, they will always find an excuse for their violence.

They have targetted the UK before, Lockerbie detonating a bomb in plane over a Scottish village, The 1984 Libyan Embassy siege. The July bombers were scum their families are scum for not accepting the fact their little blue boy blew himself up taking a load of people with him.

I agree that Pakistan needs to be dealt with because it has close ties with British Muslims. They are fighting a pretend war there is Al Qaida camps are based on their soil but I never see much evidence of them doing anything about it.

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Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan People will naturually blaim it on Iraq let's just forget it. An Islamic extermist would target us anyway because we're Western, the next excuse would be we support Israel, next we're the USA's ally, then we're a country full of Aethists & Christians, then we're imbeciles and they dislike our lifestyles, they will always find an excuse for their violence. They have targetted the UK before, Lockerbie detonating a bomb in plane over a Scottish village, The 1984 Libyan Embassy siege. The July bombers were scum their families are scum for not accepting the fact their little blue boy blew himself up taking a load of people with him. I agree that Pakistan needs to be dealt with because it has close ties with British Muslims. They are fighting a pretend war there is Al Qaida camps are based on their soil but I never see much evidence of them doing anything about it.

No Lockerbie was committed by Lybia (on America)

So, why has the UK not been attacked before the Iraq War?

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Originally posted by George Smiley No Lockerbie was committed by Lybia (on America) So, why has the UK not been attacked before the Iraq War?

George, I am not dissing you in no way, I respect your opinions as I do others, except for a few on here, but why are you not upset with the people that carry out these actions against the UK? You and others that I know seem to think that its all of the Wests fault. Not completly, but due to our actions and policies, that some how, we should just accept these types of attacks. And some how, these attacks are justified. I ask, just because, I have no doubt that 911 happened because of our policies and support for Israel. But should I say, "Well its out fault" and accept it? Its almost as if some excuse these actions and by shifting the blame to ourselves, justify the actions of these animals...

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Originally posted by Purple I dont know from where did you got that I am happy in this thread; and that I support it. Please read my previous post again; I think you misunderstood it.

I've notice from your posts here that you are pro - muslim fundamentalism.. so im intersted.. have you never felt what is real teror is? where are you from for god sake? the moon?

or you are just 10 yrs stupid boys who playing with little soldiers toys.

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Originally posted by LazFX George, I am not dissing you in no way, I respect your opinions as I do others, except for a few on here, but why are you not upset with the people that carry out these actions against the UK? You and others that I know seem to think that its all of the Wests fault. Not completly, but due to our actions and policies, that some how, we should just accept these types of attacks. And some how, these attacks are justified. I ask, just because, I have no doubt that 911 happened because of our policies and support for Israel. But should I say, "Well its out fault" and accept it? Its almost as if some excuse these actions and by shifting the blame to ourselves, justify the actions of these animals...

You think I'm not upset?! You think I have some kind of sympathy for these people?! Well you're wrong. My feelings towards them are prety much the same as yours. However, I consider myself rational enough to rise above my emotions and offer a reasonable explanation of why they would do such things (which in turn is useful for preventing such attacks). I have already said Pakistani maddrasses are the reason they get brainwashed (after being refered by fundamentalists living in this country). But I also acknowledge that one of the other reasons is our actions (unneccessary) against what they see as Muslims.

Does anybody want to answer my question as to why the UK has not been targetted before Iraq by the Islamists?

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Originally posted by George Smiley No Lockerbie was committed by Lybia (on America) So, why has the UK not been attacked before the Iraq War?

It was an American plane but it was on British soil and people died on the ground too.

What's happened in Iraq cannot be changed. Weather you agree with it or not. I agree in some ways it would sway some moderate muslims into becoming more extreme in their views.

It's been a hot bed waiting to happen for years George, face it quite a lot of Muslims hate us regardless of if you supported the Iraq war or not they wouldn't care about killing you they'd feel no remorse or guilt about it because your a westerner.

Times are changing the younger generation of muslims in the UK are becoming more religious, their naive and gulliable this is what is leading them to become vulnerable to brainwashing radicals who slip underneath the radar due to relaxed immagration laws. As a whole the muslim community is becoming more segregated and isolated from the rest of British society.

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