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Money in music

Hi all

I was just wondering if theres anyone in this forum who has had an official release, knows someone who had an official release or just has knowledge on the subject.

Can one survive on doing trance music production ?
How much does one get on a release ?
What is a fair price to charge for a remix ?

And lastly on DJing, what are the going rates in yor own country and out of your country ?

All this rates would be based as on a professional career.

Hig,mediums and lows would be nice as well.

Thanks...any help is greatly appreciated.

I think about how much u get for a release is based on the Label itself .If u release on a good Label "Known one" i mean u will get about 300-500 $ for a release,but if u release on a shitty label you will get discount on their products and u wont get anything but im not 100% sure

Get a real job if you can.

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Originally posted by Khayat If u release on a good Label "Known one" i mean u will get about 300-500 $ for a release

Are you joking?

I'm finding this really hard to believe.
So how do all the producers afford such exclusive studios and keep doing music over and over, year after year if there is no money in it.

$300-500 won't buy one much....

C'mon producers, share some info

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Originally posted by muzikislife I'm finding this really hard to believe. So how do all the producers afford such exclusive studios and keep doing music over and over, year after year if there is no money in it.

with dj gigs.. you won't get much money from releases!

There's a post over at T.nu just like this. I'll share the link with you so you can look it over.

Trance.nu - Producers Income

Well, i think that no one has really answerd the question really.

The thing i would like to know is how much you earn i like a whole year? Avarage.

Now i dont mean like Tiesto, bla bla, more like the signed ones here in the forum!

Cheers

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Originally posted by substorm Well, i think that no one has really answerd the question really. The thing i would like to know is how much you earn i like a whole year? Avarage. Now i dont mean like Tiesto, bla bla, more like the signed ones here in the forum! Cheers

i think that would really depend on how many tracks you get signed in a year. one year you could have 5 signed and the next one.

for those signed to digital labels it would be interesting to know what percentage you get and how much did you make from the track as realistically the majority of people will start of on a digital label.

my first experience with a digital label :

50 % of the royalties : 7 dollars

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Originally posted by staticblue my first experience with a digital label : 50 % of the royalties : 7 dollars

Oh man, you'll get that solid gold house in no time!

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Oh man, you'll get that solid gold house in no time!

I'm slowly getting there.

A few more digital releases and I can buy myself a letterbox

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Originally posted by staticblue I'm slowly getting there. A few more digital releases and I can buy myself a letterbox

...and some gold paint?

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery ...and some gold paint?

For the paint, I'll have to wait until I get asked to do a remix, they will surely give me a 5 dollar fee

More questions on this subject from my enquiring mind.....

Is it more profitable to have a track digitally released or the CD/Vinyl way ?

Now that we getting some closure on some figures which is quite interesting for all of us wanting to get a release in the future.

Can music production be a career or will it just be a hobby ?
Will we sweat it out till 4 in the morning producing only to realise that the average guy who works at the garage on a straight shift gets more than us producers or is there more to the earning of money through trance music ?

I would say there is money for trance producers that are really good. Most of the people on this website are really bad. If you are interested in making a living producing , you need to expand your horizons. You need to be versatile , you need to be able to do more than trance. If you don't you will be subjecting yourself to the before mentioned 500 a release payoff.

I'm not trying to be condescending , i just think that most of the people thinking about making a living doing music probably shouldn't quit their day job. The world has alot of shitty music , chances are you're music is part of it.

MOral of the story ? I don't know. Not trying to be negative. If you really want to make a carreer out of music , you need to suck it up and realise trance music is over. Everything you do is just rehashed bullshit that won't get anyone's interest except for the few nerdy trance addicts that still think it is cool. Learn music theory , listen to normal music , listen to new music but if you really want to make a living , you have to be a little more versatile than a trance producer.

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Originally posted by RichieV I would say there is money for trance producers that are really good. Most of the people on this website are really bad. If you are interested in making a living producing , you need to expand your horizons. You need to be versatile , you need to be able to do more than trance. If you don't you will be subjecting yourself to the before mentioned 500 a release payoff. I'm not trying to be condescending , i just think that most of the people thinking about making a living doing music probably shouldn't quit their day job. The world has alot of shitty music , chances are you're music is part of it. MOral of the story ? I don't know. Not trying to be negative. If you really want to make a carreer out of music , you need to suck it up and realise trance music is over. Everything you do is just rehashed bullshit that won't get anyone's interest except for the few nerdy trance addicts that still think it is cool. Learn music theory , listen to normal music , listen to new music but if you really want to make a living , you have to be a little more versatile than a trance producer.

another trance is dead poster

if you dont like the music dont listen to it and wine about on a trance forum. people on here respect most genres of music and they ones they dont like they dont make up factless bullshit about them. trance isnt in your face as it used to be so its dead. stop being stupid, if it was dead then the clubs and festivals wouldnt pull in the crowds it does.

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Originally posted by dj_kane another trance is dead poster if you dont like the music dont listen to it and wine about on a trance forum. people on here respect most genres of music and they ones they dont like they dont make up factless bullshit about them. trance isnt in your face as it used to be so its dead. stop being stupid, if it was dead then the clubs and festivals wouldnt pull in the crowds it does.

i don't think you grasped what i was trying to say. IT has nothing to do with liking the music. IT is about realising the trance trend has come and gone , and expecting to make a great living from making it isn't practical. It could be trance , jazz or blues or whatever , the fact is that the music genre is not making alot of money and to expect to make alot of money is unrealistic. Some of the producers do well , which is why i mentioned if you were reall really good , it could happen. Most of you aren't really really good. Which is why i suppose the long winded answer to the simple question was no. You won't make a living making trance. Not a definite no. It could happen , but i would suppose it is very unlikely.

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Originally posted by RichieV i don't think you grasped what i was trying to say. IT has nothing to do with liking the music. IT is about realising the trance trend has come and gone , and expecting to make a great living from making it isn't practical. It could be trance , jazz or blues or whatever , the fact is that the music genre is not making alot of money and to expect to make alot of money is unrealistic. Some of the producers do well , which is why i mentioned if you were reall really good , it could happen. Most of you aren't really really good. Which is why i suppose the long winded answer to the simple question was no. You won't make a living making trance. Not a definite no. It could happen , but i would suppose it is very unlikely.

Indeed. Versatility is the key. If you get stuck on producing one genre you won't make a living, especially if you're doing trance since the market is way too crowded as it is.

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Originally posted by RichieV i don't think you grasped what i was trying to say. IT has nothing to do with liking the music. IT is about realising the trance trend has come and gone , and expecting to make a great living from making it isn't practical. It could be trance , jazz or blues or whatever , the fact is that the music genre is not making alot of money and to expect to make alot of money is unrealistic. Some of the producers do well , which is why i mentioned if you were reall really good , it could happen. Most of you aren't really really good. Which is why i suppose the long winded answer to the simple question was no. You won't make a living making trance. Not a definite no. It could happen , but i would suppose it is very unlikely.

no one really expects to make serious money from producing alone. producing for me is a back door into djing at big clubs where imo the money is. once your an established name the gigs follow. many producers have gone this route.

although for me producing is a hobby. if i make money out of it thats great but the enjoyment of making something that i would want to mix is my goal.

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Originally posted by dj_kane although for me producing is a hobby. if i make money out of it thats great but the enjoyment of making something that i would want to mix is my goal.

And that's the way it should be. If you're starting up producing and the first question you ask is "how much money can I make with this?" you're doing it for the wrong reasons.

well one day i hope to make shitloads of money! i want to live hapily off my production and dj'ing. this to me would be a way of judging if you have been sucessful. i probably wont get anywhere, but i think my main goal is to be paid loads of money to dj/perform infront of 1000's of fans. i know when this happens i will know my music is good.

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Originally posted by richg101 but i think my main goal is to be paid loads of money to dj/perform infront of 1000's of fans. i know when this happens i will know my music is good.

That makes your music commercial but not good.

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Originally posted by staticblue my first experience with a digital label : 50 % of the royalties : 7 dollars

its no fucking wonder the trance scene is dying, its not worth making the music, sure u may enjoy it, but to earn a fair living, u gotta release a track like every day.

fuck that, i'll make more money flipping burgers

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Originally posted by Zild Get a real job if you can.

yup

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