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Posted by Clovis on Aug-16-2006 00:53:

Burning CD-R's

I've just heard that its recommended to burn at 8x-12x max for CD-R's intended to be used with CDJs. I usually burn at 32x and every now and then I'll burn a track and it will skip in 2-3 places while playing...could this be why?


Posted by Orbital32 on Aug-16-2006 01:01:

i burn as fast as my writer can, 48X, but since i only do 1 track per CD, the inner portion burns around 24X. I NEVER had a problem with CD skipping. Especially if you have burn-proof or what ever your writer calls it, you really should have no problem.


Posted by dark_Omens on Aug-16-2006 01:02:

Yep. The faster a CD burns the more likely it is to have errors in it, which cause it to skip. For CDs that I'm going to use in a CDJ I burn them at 1x. It takes awhile, but it wont skip.


Posted by Clovis on Aug-16-2006 01:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbital32
i burn as fast as my writer can, 48X, but since i only do 1 track per CD, the inner portion burns around 24X. I NEVER had a problem with CD skipping. Especially if you have burn-proof or what ever your writer calls it, you really should have no problem.



I burn on average 8-10 tracks per CD, so maybe thats why. I'm gonna start burning at 12x and see how that works.


Posted by Fusic on Aug-16-2006 01:47:

if your not in a rush. 4x is the best way to go.


Posted by nchs09 on Aug-16-2006 01:52:

iv burned all my shit on the regular WMP setting... and so far non of my cd's have sikkiped on my cdj's


Posted by skip on Aug-16-2006 03:01:

i always burn as slow as possible. what's the rush?


Posted by Clovis on Aug-16-2006 03:10:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
i always burn as slow as possible. what's the rush?



Dunno, I always end up burning some last minute discs before I spin though so I get impatient


Posted by mnemonic. on Aug-16-2006 03:12:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
i always burn as slow as possible. what's the rush?


same here, i even think that 8x is too fast sometimes


Posted by mzvirbulis on Aug-16-2006 04:05:

guys what do recommend in transcoding software? like mp3 > wav

i use belight


Posted by mnemonic. on Aug-16-2006 05:06:

adobe audition, but what do i know

(seriously im not being sarcastic, im just giving you a straight answer as to what i use, dunno if its any good or not)


Posted by Orbital32 on Aug-16-2006 05:16:

quote:
Originally posted by mzvirbulis
guys what do recommend in transcoding software? like mp3 > wav

i use belight


well depends what you mean "software" the best software available to rip is EAC or Exact Audio Copy. The encoder to use LAME.


Posted by minski on Aug-16-2006 08:24:

I generally burn my audio CD's at 32x to be sure, but in the past few months all I can make is skippy cd's (even burning at 2x) anyone else had this issue with a Pioneer DVR-108?


Posted by Protege on Aug-16-2006 14:03:

I dont even know what I burn at, whatever the default setting is I guess. Ive never had any skipping problems though.


Posted by OTtrancer on Aug-16-2006 14:32:

Guys, this might be off topic....but I've recently started with cd's/cdj's, and I'd like to know what you guys recommend in regards to how many tracks you put on a cd. I'm finding it tough to sift through my cd's to find a certain track that I want. Vinyl was easy because you could see the front of the sleeve and know what tune it was. I've been putting as many songs as I can, I haven't been putting new with new, older with older, and I'm spending way too much time looking through my binder I think. What's your guys best mechanism for organizing your binder and amount of tracks??? I'm sure if I get these two aspects covered, I'll be much better off. Thanks in advance!


Posted by Protege on Aug-16-2006 14:51:

quote:
Originally posted by OTtrancer
Guys, this might be off topic....but I've recently started with cd's/cdj's, and I'd like to know what you guys recommend in regards to how many tracks you put on a cd. I'm finding it tough to sift through my cd's to find a certain track that I want. Vinyl was easy because you could see the front of the sleeve and know what tune it was. I've been putting as many songs as I can, I haven't been putting new with new, older with older, and I'm spending way too much time looking through my binder I think. What's your guys best mechanism for organizing your binder and amount of tracks??? I'm sure if I get these two aspects covered, I'll be much better off. Thanks in advance!


Some people put one track per cd (a big waste imo) and some put 8-10 per cd. I probable average about 7-8 or so per cd. It seems to work pretty good for me so far. Just try it out to see what works best for your style.


Posted by OTtrancer on Aug-16-2006 14:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Protege
Some people put one track per cd (a big waste imo) and some put 8-10 per cd. I probable average about 7-8 or so per cd. It seems to work pretty good for me so far. Just try it out to see what works best for your style.


That is what I do now too....do you mix old with new on your discs, Or do you have discs that contain only newer stuff and ones with old. Since I just started burnin cd's, I figured I would have a mix of stuff on each cd, and I think that's where I went wrong. Might be best to burn a bunch of new, and then a bunch of older stuff for when you want to dig up a classic. I guess basically my question now is...what order are your cd's in your binder? Are you always able to quickly find a track that you want?


Posted by nchs09 on Aug-16-2006 15:18:

quote:
Originally posted by OTtrancer
Guys, this might be off topic....but I've recently started with cd's/cdj's, and I'd like to know what you guys recommend in regards to how many tracks you put on a cd. I'm finding it tough to sift through my cd's to find a certain track that I want. Vinyl was easy because you could see the front of the sleeve and know what tune it was. I've been putting as many songs as I can, I haven't been putting new with new, older with older, and I'm spending way too much time looking through my binder I think. What's your guys best mechanism for organizing your binder and amount of tracks??? I'm sure if I get these two aspects covered, I'll be much better off. Thanks in advance!


i do 2 tracks per cd
example


1- Tiesto Traffic

2 - Tiesto - trainwreck



or i do 3 tracks but of the same song
example

1 Tiesto - Superfreak

1)James brown remix
2)Jesus remix
3)2bpm remix.


Posted by Zild on Aug-16-2006 16:47:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
i always burn as slow as possible. what's the rush?


You'll see what the rush it when your friend calls says he's picking you up after he gets off work in a few hours and you have a gig to play but you just found out and he says there is no way to hook up SSL so you'd have to use CDs but they have CDJ1000s.

Get to burning!


Posted by xenoaxe on Aug-16-2006 17:54:

I use a pioneer burner, i burn at 32x using Nero 7, ALWAYS 80 minutes worth of tracks (sometimes 10, 12, 16 or maybe even 6 tracks but always 80 minutes) i have a pair of CDJ-1000s and i use Sony CD-Rs exclusively.




Out of about 100 CDs (not counting any other use besides music) i have never, ever had one skip during a set, or anything. Hope this helps a little bit


Posted by Protege on Aug-16-2006 18:05:

quote:
Originally posted by OTtrancer
That is what I do now too....do you mix old with new on your discs, Or do you have discs that contain only newer stuff and ones with old. Since I just started burnin cd's, I figured I would have a mix of stuff on each cd, and I think that's where I went wrong. Might be best to burn a bunch of new, and then a bunch of older stuff for when you want to dig up a classic. I guess basically my question now is...what order are your cd's in your binder? Are you always able to quickly find a track that you want?


when I first started I just burned them alphabetically cause I have them in one big folder. So I have a lot of my older stuff already burned. So now anything new I get, I just burn it and add it to the end of my cd case so that the newest stuff is in the back and the old stuff is in the front. make sense?


Posted by Nemesis44 on Aug-18-2006 12:42:

The burn speed is important for the following reason.

The faster you burn the CD the more shallow the data will be written. Basically at lower speeds the data is burnt much deeper, meaning that the CD is harder to damage.
In terms of audio there shouldn't be any difference it's purely to do with the longgevity (in some cases compatability).

Another not so known fact is that CDs are just as sensitive to damage on the top as the read surface if not more so...

Cheers
Nem


Posted by Tangil on Aug-18-2006 13:37:

I used Sony CD's until last week I burnt 13 CD's i needed for a gig only to find an hour beforehand that all the CD's wouldn't play in my CDJ1000 or CDJ800.
A faulty batch.
Now its TDK all the way...


Posted by djkoolaide on Aug-18-2006 14:23:

I use Audition to decode to WAV, and then I burn at 4x. It's always failsafe!


Posted by djkoolaide on Aug-18-2006 14:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Protege
Some people put one track per cd (a big waste imo)


Man, CD-R's are so cheap these days. Just the other day I picked up a 100pk for $9.99 at Best Buy.


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