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Posted by Dirty Ice on Aug-17-2006 21:55:

bass/sander van doorn style

how do you make that short farty bass sound that you here in all the new tech house style tracks, that sander van doorn plays.

I have a virus TI, a jp 8000 and reason. which would be best to use?

thanks!

like all these tunes have!
http://www.sandervandoorn.com/playe...=monthlysession

Posted by Biatchzxz on Aug-17-2006 22:05:

To be honest with you its all over the place.. I use trilogy for my bass lines.. I am going to post a link to a recent track i am working on has that sounding bassline your talking about. Tell me if not.

Posted by Dirty Ice on Aug-17-2006 22:08:

ok i cant wait!
Maybe you can tell us how you got the sound out of trilogy.

Posted by Biatchzxz on Aug-17-2006 22:28:

Posted by djms on Aug-18-2006 08:43:

most of these mono bass sounds come from bass samples, if you get your hands on Vengeance 2 there's loads of mono bass samples in different notes. Add a bit o reverb, get them placed properly and you got that bass.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-18-2006 20:40:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_palm
forget reason atleast LOL.

Why?

Posted by mysticalninja on Aug-18-2006 20:54:

First get a really punchy bassdrum with no lows so there is plenty off room for bass. Then get a saw and eq it fat.

Posted by Maor Levi on Aug-19-2006 00:29:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_palm
beacuse he has a virus TI

and?

he didnt even used a small quarter of the TI

his basslines are possible to make with Software...just gotta know which FX and EQ to use on it

Posted by Lokh�n on Aug-19-2006 07:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Maor Levi
and?

he didnt even used a small quarter of the TI

his basslines are possible to make with Software...just gotta know which FX and EQ to use on it

Ok Mr. Wizkid, now tell us your magic production tricks...

Posted by wizniz on Aug-19-2006 20:56:

i just use the 3xosc synth in FL studio... it works wonders if you play w/ cut knobs and adjust everything just right.

svd- this is sensation?
wonderful track. i feel you on that, bro

Posted by farris on Aug-19-2006 23:09:

quote:
Originally posted by wizniz
svd- this is sensation?
wonderful track. i feel you on that, bro

Yeah...No bro.
That would be Sander Kleinenberg not Sander van Doorn.

- farris

Posted by Emperor on Aug-20-2006 21:18:

what does mono have to do with it? im not not doubting you i just dont understand. i just usually use some saw wav with full sustain and no release and make it sound very dry...play in low notes so the kick is above it

Posted by emc^2 on Aug-23-2006 03:01:

My friend and I decided to do a bit of acoustic analysis on the sample of that bassline. We came up with a theory that he used a pure sine wave sample with compression.

Hope this helps. Search the posts here - this subject has been beaten up numerously.

Posted by emc^2 on Aug-23-2006 20:02:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_palm
its a sine and a low saw one octgave over usualy i think. those phatt saws. it can be done perfectly and easy with your TI.

Not perfectly.. and definitely not easily. We're talking a professional virus sound designer here, trying his best to immitate it - he got close but wasn't the same. we had to eq and distort to make it closer. the wave looked too perfect to be synthesized.

Posted by mysticalninja on Aug-23-2006 20:44:

The problem was you started with a sine.. It's obviously primarily a saw. If there is a sine, it's like 75% saw 25%sine

Posted by Nemesis44 on Aug-24-2006 13:57:

quote:
Originally posted by djms
most of these mono bass sounds come from bass samples, if you get your hands on Vengeance 2 there's loads of mono bass samples in different notes. Add a bit o reverb, get them placed properly and you got that bass.

Eeek, you don't put verb on bass... Delay by all means but not verb. Would make the mix very muddy and also make it impossible to cut to vinyl.

Cheers
Nem

Posted by djms on Aug-24-2006 14:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
Eeek, you don't put verb on bass... Delay by all means but not verb. Would make the mix very muddy and also make it impossible to cut to vinyl.

Cheers
Nem

Fred Baker Greg Nash - Lunar eclipse . When the beat comes back in after the break he has some phatt mono bass with tons of verb on it.

eat my shorts

Posted by thoughtlessjex on Aug-24-2006 14:54:

It's called a saw wave. Just add some boost to the bottom one or two frequencies (Same as adding a sine or two).

The farty noise is most certainly not a compressed sine wave. Compressed sine waves are akin to lowpassed squares, and are ultimately very hollow sounding. Maybe svd's more techy bass is like that, but that sound is far from the "farting" that the OP described. It's more like tuneless humming.

Actually, now that I look through, It's obvious to me that there is no single kind of bass that occurs in that mix. I've given the description for the one in the first song, though. I also notice compressed sines, filtered and distorted squares, and all manner of bass sounds.

You should just come up with your own bassline. Chances are, it'll sound like something svd does.

Posted by djms on Aug-24-2006 15:10:

how is the farty noise made? I was presuming it was offbeat bass samples.......

Posted by Derivative on Aug-24-2006 23:21:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_palm
if he got a TI why the hell should he bother trying to make the same sounds on bad software??? its done in 2mins with the virus.

HAHAHA. I laugh at the idea of building any sound on a virus in 2 minutes. It ain't that kind of synth.

Posted by Nemesis44 on Sep-26-2006 09:54:

quote:
Originally posted by djms
Fred Baker Greg Nash - Lunar eclipse . When the beat comes back in after the break he has some phatt mono bass with tons of verb on it.

eat my shorts

Ok, I will rephrase that... you don't put verb on low frequencies as this can cause issues when you are cutting vinyl as this will cause technical issues. I suppose that vinyl is dying and the digital mediums will rewrite the rules anyway but traditionally you don't put reverb on bass for the above reason.

And no.. I don't want to eat your shorts or any other item of clothing for that matter.

Nem

Posted by djms on Sep-26-2006 10:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
Ok, I will rephrase that... you don't put verb on low frequencies as this can cause issues when you are cutting vinyl as this will cause technical issues. I suppose that vinyl is dying and the digital mediums will rewrite the rules anyway but traditionally you don't put reverb on bass for the above reason.

And no.. I don't want to eat your shorts or any other item of clothing for that matter.

Nem

lol - I wouldn't recommend eating clothes

I do know what you mean about bass, I would never splash verb on it for the reasons you've listed. This track and some others are exceptions to the rule I s'pose.