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Posted by sterilis on Aug-19-2006 18:56:

cdj 800?

does anyone use vinyl mode for catching the beat? or jsut for scratching?

what way do you cue the first beat. is there a quick way to get to it without using the search button for ages?

thanks


Posted by mnemonic. on Aug-20-2006 00:35:

Re: cdj 800?

quote:
Originally posted by dj_kane
does anyone use vinyl mode for catching the beat? or jsut for scratching?

what way do you cue the first beat. is there a quick way to get to it without using the search button for ages?

thanks


you can search with the jog wheel...

as for using the platter in vinyl mode...a little...i only turn on vinyl mode to fine adjust location of my cue point


Posted by Trogdor on Aug-20-2006 02:08:

I always keep it on vinyl mode.


Posted by DjWoody on Aug-20-2006 03:00:

I always use Vinyl Mode. It's freaking awesome!


Posted by mnemonic. on Aug-20-2006 04:10:

quote:
Originally posted by DjWoody
I always use Vinyl Mode. It's freaking awesome!


so then i suppose you two are using the jog ring to pitch bend? i hate that thing, im all for using the jog wheel for that...


Posted by miamitranceman on Aug-20-2006 04:42:

Mostly I use CDJ mode since I'm learning the basics but lately I've been practicing with vinyl mode a little more. Someday I wanna try scratching too.


Posted by DjWoody on Aug-20-2006 05:10:

quote:
Originally posted by MikeyN
so then i suppose you two are using the jog ring to pitch bend? i hate that thing, im all for using the jog wheel for that...


Yes, it takes some getting used to, but I feel more comfortable and I have total control of the song just like vinyl.


Posted by Stu Cox on Aug-20-2006 10:36:

I switch between CDJ and vinyl mode all of the time...

I usually find the first beat in CDJ mode, simply because you can get it more accurately by stepping through frames to fine tune. And remember when you're paused in CDJ mode, turning the platter quite quickly isn't too dissimilar from doing it in vinyl mode - you can skip through a bit and still hear what's going on, but sometimes it's easier to switch to vinyl mode, find the beat then back to CDJ mode to fine tune.

If I'm going to do a drop mix of some kind (be it a sample/loop I'm adding or occasionally the next track) it's essential that the cue point is set as accurate as possible, in which case I need the accuracy of CDJ mode for that. I could just rely on me pushing the platter off bang on time, but I find it easier hitting a button on the beat than making the perfect movement with the platter every time.

When playing normally, I tend to keep it in vinyl mode and use the ring to pitchbend... in fact I've got so used to doing it like that, that when it's in CDJ mode I still only use the ring to pitch bend. For me I find it gives me more control than using the platter.


Posted by sterilis on Aug-20-2006 16:53:

ive only had mine a few days and read the manual but it doesnt really give you much input only the basic knowledge, because im so used to vinyl id prefer to use it this way but was unsure how you all used it. looks like you cue the first beat then switch to vinyl mode.

one other thing do you cue right on the first beat or just before it?

some of my mixes have been bang on and some slightly off. its annoying as i feel im going back to basics.


Posted by Freak on Aug-20-2006 18:05:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_kane


one other thing do you cue right on the first beat or just before it?



The way ive been doing it for years on denon twins (and still do as i still encounter them), is to wind it back to one possibly two frames before the beat.


Posted by Abhay on Aug-21-2006 08:01:

riding pitch FTW.


Posted by Stu Cox on Aug-21-2006 09:25:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_kane

one other thing do you cue right on the first beat or just before it?

Tends to be just before it but depends on the sound... essentially I make sure that it's in a position so if I hit play bang on the beat, it starts in time. That usually means setting the cue point one frame before the first beat, sometimes it works better to be a frame or maybe 2 into the beat - just have to test it.

And if I'm short of time (i.e. trying to be too clever for my own good) I just use whatever cue point I've got when I need to drop it in and wing it from there


Posted by sterilis on Aug-21-2006 11:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Stu Cox
Tends to be just before it but depends on the sound... essentially I make sure that it's in a position so if I hit play bang on the beat, it starts in time. That usually means setting the cue point one frame before the first beat, sometimes it works better to be a frame or maybe 2 into the beat - just have to test it.

And if I'm short of time (i.e. trying to be too clever for my own good) I just use whatever cue point I've got when I need to drop it in and wing it from there


sounds good now. last thing i need to know then i can leave you lot alone. this is hard to explain. on technics are any turntables when the track is going too fast you touch the platter to slow it down a bit while your catching the beat. on the cdj is there away of doing this? ive been able to speed it up but moving my hand around the vinyl part of the cdj although when i try and slow it, it stops or reverses.

thanks


Posted by Rebel Brown on Aug-21-2006 12:44:

Use the outer ring to slow the track down instead of the jog wheel.


Posted by mnemonic. on Aug-21-2006 13:51:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_kane
sounds good now. last thing i need to know then i can leave you lot alone. this is hard to explain. on technics are any turntables when the track is going too fast you touch the platter to slow it down a bit while your catching the beat. on the cdj is there away of doing this? ive been able to speed it up but moving my hand around the vinyl part of the cdj although when i try and slow it, it stops or reverses.

thanks


switch of vinyl mode and you can use the whole platter, or just keep vinyl mode on and use the outer ring of the jog wheel...


Posted by sterilis on Aug-21-2006 16:36:

thanks everythings going well.

cheers to all who replied.



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