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Posted by substorm on Aug-22-2006 00:05:

Dunno Intro question!?

Hey guys!

I sitting here working on a track, but now im stuck AGAIN. This track just doesnt seem to go my way. But i really want to finnish it, cus i think i have real good melody to work with.

However, i have some problem with my intro. I dont know really which keys i should use in it. I often take the keys from the beginning of the melody and make some arp into. But in this one i doesnt work for me, cus the beginning of the main melody has the same keys as the lower octav. I have try to change the higher octav to something else, but the it doesnt sound good.

Any suggestions, or share of experience on from you build your intros!

I know this is a hard question to answer, but as always, i only have you guys to turn to!

Thanks!
C


Posted by KilldaDJ on Aug-22-2006 00:07:

i start with a basic 4/4 kick/crash and have a gated pattern and a LFO acidey type sound going and every now and then i would put like a bar teaser of the melody of the main riff or something completely different but in the same key

meh


Posted by substorm on Aug-22-2006 00:19:

quote:
Originally posted by KilldaDJ
i start with a basic 4/4 kick/crash and have a gated pattern and a LFO acidey type sound going and every now and then i would put like a bar teaser of the melody of the main riff or something completely different but in the same key

meh


Ok, thanks for that! I forgot to mention that i have built up the whole intro with everything else but not the intro melody. I had one but it didnt do it for me.

The main riff starts with the Keys C4-A#3.C3-A#2.C2-A#1! So if i would want an intro melody that plays more than 3 keys, what could i do? or should i just go with it. I have the bassline play at C2-A#1 to, and i think it sound so lame!


Posted by DJ-Igloo on Aug-22-2006 00:21:

well substrom idk i would have to hear a clip of your tune to hellp you in great detial but i cant tell you this is where i work from sometimes on my intros. I take a listen to my main melody and find that certian chord that shows the most tension in the melody. Then i take that chord and make it my introduction chord to the melody and of the track. Then I slowly build mabey after bar 49 start teasing with chord stabs or an arp to tease the ears then after bar 65 i start adding my keychange with the bassline , arp and pads, + a sub melody if needed building into the break then at the break i drop down to mabey my plucks or submelody or chord hits and pads bassed off that first intro chord i chose and build up into my melody.


Posted by KilldaDJ on Aug-22-2006 01:30:

quote:
Originally posted by substorm
Ok, thanks for that! I forgot to mention that i have built up the whole intro with everything else but not the intro melody. I had one but it didnt do it for me.

The main riff starts with the Keys C4-A#3.C3-A#2.C2-A#1! So if i would want an intro melody that plays more than 3 keys, what could i do? or should i just go with it. I have the bassline play at C2-A#1 to, and i think it sound so lame!


simple, just use a gated bass pattern in C or whatever the root note is of the main lead and perhaps have the LFO acidey thing an octave higher, gradually bringing it in

just listen to trance from 1999-2001 it typically does this sorta thing, sure it maybe simple to some, but the simple tunes are the best

imo i cant stand all this new trance being churned out, theres just too much going on, no real melody, all sounds the same, lacks that chirpy character and i think thats what trance should be about, character


Posted by sterilis on Aug-22-2006 02:07:

i find intros the hardest part. once i get past that everything flows.


Posted by deceptikon on Aug-22-2006 02:38:

quote:
Originally posted by KilldaDJ
imo i cant stand all this new trance being churned out, theres just too much going on, no real melody, all sounds the same, lacks that chirpy character and i think thats what trance should be about, character


Amen, I miss the old anthemic style trance was written in a few years back.


Posted by djms on Aug-22-2006 09:19:

you could stick a filter on the bass for the intro sliding slowly up or down whatever sounds right then drop the filter once your intro's finished. I think this sounds better with tech tracks rather than melodic ones but you could apply the same theory to your perc as well.......


Posted by substorm on Aug-22-2006 12:26:

Thanks alot for all good answers guys! I really appricciate it! I think i will go with a simple arp build up, which changes in to the melody during the break down, with the pads slowly rises in the background, and then when the arp slowly filters down, a kick explosion breaks into a rising supersaw..could work ?


Posted by thoughtlessjex on Aug-22-2006 14:31:

quote:
Originally posted by substorm
Thanks alot for all good answers guys! I really appricciate it! I think i will go with a simple arp build up, which changes in to the melody during the break down, with the pads slowly rises in the background, and then when the arp slowly filters down, a kick explosion breaks into a rising supersaw..could work ?

There might have been one or two songs that did just that in '99.


Posted by substorm on Aug-22-2006 17:04:

quote:
Originally posted by thoughtlessjex
There might have been one or two songs that did just that in '99.


Jupp, thats what im aiming for and i like it!


Posted by DJ-Igloo on Aug-22-2006 17:24:

sounds perfect mate!


Posted by substorm on Aug-22-2006 19:06:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Igloo
sounds perfect mate!


Cool! Somethings never get old, its just a matter on how you put everything together!



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