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Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Aug-22-2006 13:41:

Any Chartered Accountants here?

I am applying for a chartered accountants apprenticeship with a company, and am wondering if anyone could offer any advice on what to put in my application letter - other than my qualifications, my good ability with numbers, my courteous and polite nature and my top notch effort at all times, etc.

Basically anything that might show that I have put in some thought and research to the position (and before anyone starts, I will of course be doing this anyway - but it just might help to get some preliminary ideas / advice from people in the know.)

I don't hold much hope because i've never seen anyone on here mention this sort of work before when talking about themselves. But it would be great if anyone has any ideas.

Fanks innit.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-22-2006 13:47:

Re: Any Chartered Accountants here?

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
I am applying for a chartered accountants apprenticeship with a company, and am wondering if anyone could offer any advice on what to put in my application letter - other than my qualifications, my good ability with numbers, my courteous and polite nature and my top notch effort at all times, etc.





you come off as a prick alot but here some quick advise


debit cash
credit accounts receivable.


theyl love you for that


Posted by Ted Promo on Aug-22-2006 13:47:

Re: Any Chartered Accountants here?

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
my courteous and polite nature




Sorry.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Aug-22-2006 13:56:

Re: Re: Any Chartered Accountants here?

quote:
Originally posted by Demoted


Sorry.


I didn't say any of this was true now did I?



quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
you come off as a prick alot but here some quick advise


debit cash
credit accounts receivable.


theyl love you for that


Thanks. Could you elaborate on that a little? Like how I could incorporate this into my letter?


Posted by placebo on Aug-22-2006 13:58:

GIYF


Posted by bas on Aug-22-2006 13:58:

How long ago did you finish school? How many similar jobs have you had in the past?


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Aug-22-2006 13:59:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
(and before anyone starts, I will of course be doing this anyway - but it just might help to get some preliminary ideas / advice from people in the know.)


quote:
Originally posted by placebo
GIYF


Is there seriously any fucking need?


Posted by placebo on Aug-22-2006 14:01:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Is there seriously any fucking need?


Yep.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Aug-22-2006 14:02:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_bas
How long ago did you finish school? How many similar jobs have you had in the past?


3 years ago I think. I have very decent qualifications in maths and further maths, and also in business studies and computing.

As far as experience goes though i've mainly been doing managerial work for the last year and office work - so I have done a fair bit of cash administration - but i'd mainly be clutching at straws if I tried to claim I have any real experience at this.


Posted by bas on Aug-22-2006 14:04:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
3 years ago I think. I have very decent qualifications in maths and further maths, and also in business studies and computing.

As far as experience goes though i've mainly been doing managerial work for the last year and office work - so I have done a fair bit of cash administration - but i'd mainly be clutching at straws if I tried to claim I have any real experience at this.

Try concentrating on any major projects you've done that relate to what you're looking to do as a chartered accountant. Even if you've only done one, stretch it out and explain what the project was what your role was etc. Also mention you were number 110 in the DJ Mag poll last year. Everyone in the UK is a dj so it will go over quite well.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Aug-22-2006 14:06:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_bas
Also mention you were number 110 in the DJ Mag poll last year. Everyone in the UK is a dj so it will go over quite well.


I'll bear that in mind, thanks.


Posted by bas on Aug-22-2006 14:09:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
I'll bear that in mind, thanks.



Honestly though, if you'd like you can send me a copy of your resume and I can forward it to my girlfriend. She's a recruiter here in the states, i'm sure she would be of some help.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-22-2006 14:09:

Re: Re: Re: Any Chartered Accountants here?

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike


Thanks. Could you elaborate on that a little? Like how I could incorporate this into my letter?



hrmm on a serious note are you certified by the chartered accountants? or some sort of general accounting certification?


usually just a degree from college or university is not enough.


if you have that certification it should be easy cause accountants are usually high in demand


Posted by THE_Chris on Aug-22-2006 14:12:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
I'll bear that in mind, thanks.


Seriously, put that in.

I talked to someone who gave interviews and he said that something like that on a CV is excellent. He was going through a pile of CVs and saw someone who had written down that they'd worked in a Casino. He then interviewed that person purely to find out what they did and what sort of work they did in the casino (turned out they worked on Routlette tables). The person turned out to be great and they got the job.

So yeah, put something like that in to get the employers attention. It may seem crazy, but for an employer going through 30 boring CVs, your name will stand out as you've done something interesting like that. And they might bring you in to an interview for the job.

The guy recommended i put on my CV "The felling of 100x 40ft trees in a confined space", simply because it makes the CV stand out. And everyone that looks at my CV sees that line and laughs, but it has the effect of them remembering my name and CV.


Posted by kr00t0n on Aug-22-2006 14:23:

Stace is halfway through her ACCA (1.5 years to go), but she's been working in a firm and being doing audting for most part.

Not too sure what she did to get her initial position though, will ask her.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Aug-22-2006 14:33:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_bas


Honestly though, if you'd like you can send me a copy of your resume and I can forward it to my girlfriend. She's a recruiter here in the states, i'm sure she would be of some help.


Nice one, thanks. I won't put her out though, I already have a good friend in the same business. She's the one that helped me put together a cracking C.V. in the first place; it's tip-fucking-top.



quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
hrmm on a serious note are you certified by the chartered accountants? or some sort of general accounting certification?


usually just a degree from college or university is not enough.


if you have that certification it should be easy cause accountants are usually high in demand


Of course I don't. With an apprenticeship, the point is that they take people who are unqualified, and then put them through the necessary courses. It's a bit of a 'slower' way of doing things than just getting a degree, and you obviously start on a shitter wage, but they offer you valuable work experience as well as getting the qualifications - plus a guranteed job afterwards.



quote:
Originally posted by THE_Chris
Seriously, put that in.

I talked to someone who gave interviews and he said that something like that on a CV is excellent. He was going through a pile of CVs and saw someone who had written down that they'd worked in a Casino. He then interviewed that person purely to find out what they did and what sort of work they did in the casino (turned out they worked on Routlette tables). The person turned out to be great and they got the job.

So yeah, put something like that in to get the employers attention. It may seem crazy, but for an employer going through 30 boring CVs, your name will stand out as you've done something interesting like that. And they might bring you in to an interview for the job.

The guy recommended i put on my CV "The felling of 100x 40ft trees in a confined space", simply because it makes the CV stand out. And everyone that looks at my CV sees that line and laughs, but it has the effect of them remembering my name and CV.


I have a small section for my interests / hobbies. I may consider this.



quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
Stace is halfway through her ACCA (1.5 years to go), but she's been working in a firm and being doing audting for most part.

Not too sure what she did to get her initial position though, will ask her.


Thanks i'd appreciate that.

(Who though?)


Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Aug-22-2006 18:15:

Re: Any Chartered Accountants here?

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
I am applying for a chartered accountants apprenticeship with a company, and am wondering if anyone could offer any advice on what to put in my application letter - other than my qualifications, my good ability with numbers, my courteous and polite nature and my top notch effort at all times, etc.

Basically anything that might show that I have put in some thought and research to the position (and before anyone starts, I will of course be doing this anyway - but it just might help to get some preliminary ideas / advice from people in the know.)

I don't hold much hope because i've never seen anyone on here mention this sort of work before when talking about themselves. But it would be great if anyone has any ideas.

Fanks innit.


Maybe it might be worth getting some unpaid word to shadow people? Employers will be definitely be looking for commitment and past experience (as I've found out with grad schemes )


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-22-2006 18:28:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Of course I don't. With an apprenticeship, the point is that they take people who are unqualified, and then put them through the necessary courses. It's a bit of a 'slower' way of doing things than just getting a degree, and you obviously start on a shitter wage, but they offer you valuable work experience as well as getting the qualifications - plus a guranteed job afterwards.



its easy math.. if you have some managmenet courses that youve taken in school place that on the top of your resume.. it shows that you have incentive to contribute to the company. And you could have some insight into the future direction of hte company. Management skills are extremely important in any job. Management and accounting together will give a great impression


Posted by SidMl on Aug-23-2006 14:08:

Re: Any Chartered Accountants here?

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
I am applying for a chartered accountants apprenticeship with a company, and am wondering if anyone could offer any advice on what to put in my application letter - other than my qualifications, my good ability with numbers, my courteous and polite nature and my top notch effort at all times, etc.

Basically anything that might show that I have put in some thought and research to the position (and before anyone starts, I will of course be doing this anyway - but it just might help to get some preliminary ideas / advice from people in the know.)

I don't hold much hope because i've never seen anyone on here mention this sort of work before when talking about themselves. But it would be great if anyone has any ideas.

Fanks innit.


i find that attention to detail and logic are pretty important when i'm doing accounting work.


Posted by stace on Aug-25-2006 18:55:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Thanks i'd appreciate that.

(Who though?)


How rude!

Do you have a degree? You need either a degree or to have completed AAT before you can study was part of the ICEAW (Chartered Institute), well you did last time I looked. Not so with ACCA although if you have a relevant degree it will exempt you from a lot.

You looking to do audit or accountancy?

If you want to go into audit you need to be good with people but also authoritative when you need to be, and confident in your own ability (something I fall down on) as clients will constantly question your opinions.

Tell them you are dedicated because its a hard slog doing professional exams when you have plenty going on in your life other than work.

Aso, its not just numeracy that counts, you need to be pretty good at explaning yourself in word, for both exams and work.

Is it a big firm you are looking to join? There may be tests at the interview stage if so. Luckily I always managed to escape all that bollox.

Anyhoo, I hope that helps. Ill keep my mouth shut about my views on the career choice!

Best of luck!



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