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Posted by vman83 on Aug-23-2006 14:26:

A lesson on life and friendship

Hi Guys,

well, this is a little of topic from my usual munted trance mong rants but i feel its important to remind people that sometimes we take things a little too for granted... let me explain

On the 12th of August, my best friend Luciano took his own life in the driveway of his home. Why he did it, boils down to many things, but it could have been prevented if people had have shown a little more care towards peoples feelings.

Before this tragic event, a small argument amongst some of our friends occured and luciano took all of this to heart. No body knew because he didnt really like to show his emmotions but deep down it was killing him inside. This isnt the full reason for him commiting suicide, but it was a contributing factor.

Many of my friends have been left feeling guilty, which is wrong because none of this is their faults, it shouldn't have happened.

At the end of the day, all we can really say is that we miss our friend sincerly and we wish he were here with us to enjoy the crazy and fun momments in life. Im suffering deeply from this because to me, he was the best friend that i have and he has been there for me my whole life. Most upsetting of all, is the fact that he had purchased an engagement ring for his beautiful girlfriend and now she is left out alone.

Take from my experience, and just realise how good it is to have the friends you do and cherish every moment you spend with them. Help them whenever they are down, because nobody deserves to feel like they dont belong (alive) anymore. Dont let petty arguments get in the way of friendship, and always try to mend problems that arise between family and friends.

Luciano C, i miss you u bloody crazy bastard, im gona stick my foot up your ass the next time i see you mate .

RIP Luciano Ciucci 1/8/1983 - 12/8/2006

Posted by jono4L on Aug-23-2006 15:13:

I am sorry to hear that vman, your spot on about friendship and I hope your circle of friends are dealing with it as best they can.

Posted by narcism on Aug-23-2006 15:20:

part of being good friends is to fight and then get over it in an hour, but sorry for ur loss

Posted by ONION on Aug-23-2006 17:21:

sorry for your loss dude

Posted by tathi on Aug-23-2006 21:05:

sorry for your loss

suicide is a very selfish resolution to all of your problems :/

Posted by 00soups00 on Aug-23-2006 21:46:

that is horrible dude... i hope you and your circle are coping as best as they can... remmeber that, there would've been many other contributing factors to Luciano choosing to do what he did.. it certainly doesnt lie with your friends or any arguments you may have had...

all the best mate..

Posted by AnitA on Aug-23-2006 22:40:

+ 1

Deepest condolences.

quote:
Originally posted by tathi
sorry for your loss

suicide is a very selfish resolution to all of your problems :/

Posted by Teflon_Teapot on Aug-24-2006 00:08:

really sorry to hear that vincent.

Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-24-2006 00:14:

thats fucked man

Posted by Anomyst on Aug-24-2006 01:26:

Thats terrible Vincent! very sorry to hear of your loss man!

Posted by Aesthetic on Aug-24-2006 01:33:

sorry to hear mate.

Posted by charlee on Aug-24-2006 02:01:

There could certainly be a lot more love spread around this place.

I hope you are doing OK

Posted by Light The Fuse on Aug-24-2006 03:53:

fark thats no good dude.

hope everything picks up for u all

Posted by queen_vee on Aug-24-2006 04:31:

That�s just awful, I�m so sorry to hear that.

Life is full of exceptional highs and mega lows, if only everyone was mentally strong enough to deal with it�

My group went through this exact trauma in year 12. It did make us a much closer group � but some people continued to blame themselves, and limited their own opportunities in life because of it.

I hope your group is strong enough and mature enough to realise that not only is it not any sole person or groups fault, but there is nothing they could have done.

Posted by DIDI on Aug-24-2006 04:34:

This an incredibly sad thing to happen. I know it's hard not to feel guilty, but it really is something within him that you couldn't have done anything about.

Posted by Paulie on Aug-24-2006 08:25:

quote:
Originally posted by tathi
sorry for your loss

suicide is a very selfish resolution to all of your problems :/

Tathi i dont think its fair being so judgemental...you have no idea about the circumstances...how can you call it selfish? Not having a go at you, but attitudes like that doesnt help anyone!

RIP to the poor soul...

Posted by vman83 on Aug-24-2006 08:37:

i do somewhat agree however that it is a selfish act... kind of

i only say this, because he has left behind the most wonderful of girls, all of whos hopes were up with a soon to be engagement..\

and not just that his mum is now alone in the world. i cant imagine what it must feel like, bringing up someone for 23 years, that being your biggest concern that your children grow to have a wonderful life.. and it all ends, pretty much down the drain... just a waste

im sure if he could see how much people truly loved him this would never have happened.

If you guys ever have a friend that talks about doing this crap to themselves i urge you to help them in any way possible to avoid such a thing

thanks for the support guys its really appreciated, your a wonderful bunch

Posted by Dr P on Aug-24-2006 09:08:

I used to think suicide was selfish.

It's not really though it just looks like it. You don't commit suicide for fun. It is something that is not a spur of the moment thing. I am of the belief that you would be thinking pretty hard about taking your own life. You must feel pretty worthless and useless to anybody really.

Its not a good thing to hear about happening though mate. The only thing worse, is hearing about someone you know being murdered.

Chin up old boy!!

Posted by DIDI on Aug-24-2006 09:41:

quote:
Originally posted by vman83
i do somewhat agree however that it is a selfish act... kind of

i only say this, because he has left behind the most wonderful of girls, all of whos hopes were up with a soon to be engagement..\

and not just that his mum is now alone in the world. i cant imagine what it must feel like, bringing up someone for 23 years, that being your biggest concern that your children grow to have a wonderful life.. and it all ends, pretty much down the drain... just a waste

im sure if he could see how much people truly loved him this would never have happened.

If you guys ever have a friend that talks about doing this crap to themselves i urge you to help them in any way possible to avoid such a thing

thanks for the support guys its really appreciated, your a wonderful bunch

I didn't comment on this because I remember a time when I would have been angry at the person because I believed it was an incredibly selfish thing to do. I don't think that anymore. The awful truth is that by the time someone gets to the stage where they kill themselves they don't believe anyone will care and in fact believe their loved ones will be better off without them.
This may seem totally illogical to the people left behind but whatever reason , depression etc., it makes sense to them. Let's face it, this guy was loved ! For him not to know this there must have been something wrong within himself. As I said it is a very, very sad thing, but ultimately no one else is responsible.

I'm so sorry for what has happened to you all.

Posted by narcism on Aug-24-2006 10:05:

when someone takes their own life they dont have the ability to think about others not because they are selfish, but because they are so deeply depressed.

Posted by vman83 on Aug-24-2006 10:11:

yes you are correct he was suffering from some sort of imbalance in his head and he had seen people about this in the past

he just never opened up to anyone about...

another reason i say it was selfish... is because 2 months prior, Luciano had seen what this had done to his girlfriend. One of her work mates Gassed himself in his car and she was shattered over the loss of her workmate and friend. Luciano had even said to me, how what he did was selfish, how could he hurt those around him etc etc... and then 2 months down the track he does the exact same thing...

i dunno

Posted by mzvirbulis on Aug-24-2006 12:49:

I'm very sorry to hear about your loss V. Thanks for sharing and talking about this because it does need talking about, no one should suffer in silence but thats what happens most times.

Posted by Deeman on Aug-24-2006 17:14:

Hey Vman,
That a real tragedy losing your best friend. I know what my best friend means to me and I'd be shattered if anything happened to him and especially under the circumstances in which ur mate died. I can understand the pain your in dude. Very sorry for your loss. I agree, you should kick his ass when you see him next!

Posted by Philby on Aug-25-2006 04:10:

sorry to hear that dude

Posted by Chris Pana on Aug-27-2006 23:39:

such a waste to have someone pass away so young. Deepest sympathies to yourself and all the others effected by this trajedy.