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The difference between PVD and Tiesto

PVD -> spinning style is more focussed on "partytrance", I mean he (never) plays tracks with long synths to create a trancy atmosphere but kicking trance songs to make the crowd go crazy.

Tiesto --> spinning style is more the real TRANCE, and here I mean, creating a "warmer" and more trancier atmosphere than PVD does.


Just for example Tiesto would spin push - the legacy (club mix)
PVD on the other hand would spin the svensson and gielen remix


Thats why I think hard trance fans will love pvd more...(dunno )

I like Tiesto more...



so...

well i like hard trance but i still like tiesto more than PVD
he spins a lot of uplifting too which is also my favourite genre of trance!!!

pvd vs tiesto

Tiesto is moving more toward progressive these days meaning
He likes to spin long mesmerize Journey and i think his style is more than just dancing.

PvD, hardtrance ? let me laugh

Anyway, i love Paul van Dyk ! (but not Tiesto )

I don't think PVD plays more hardtrance at all. Tiesto throws a lot more variety (progressive) into his sets. Not a bad thing, though. PVD, however, just manages to find those amazing trance tunes that nobody can get for months. Still #1, like in my other post

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Originally posted by E-Trancer PvD, hardtrance ? let me laugh Anyway, i love Paul van Dyk ! (but not Tiesto )

who the fuck said something about pvd hardtrance???

I love both of them (I know I'll die to see either one of them live here in Zouk Club) but I must say they have quite different styles.

PvD is much much more melodic than any other trance DJ I've heard. I think he loves syths; his sets are unique and ALWAYS guaranteed to be uplifting.

Tiesto's sets have more variety, which typically might include decent house and progressive in between trance tracks. That's not neccessarily bad too.

To each his own, I guess.

PVD = banging and more melodic trance, representing 'German trance'
Tiesto = more progressive stuff with lots of 'Dutch trance'

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Originally posted by vmc PVD = banging and more melodic trance, representing 'German trance' Tiesto = more progressive stuff with lots of 'Dutch trance'

I wouldn't have agreed more..

PvD has two styles. He plays really bangin, fast paced party trance in his live sets but then look at his CDs. The opposite. PvD gets it just right.
For me Tiesto's sets don't get me as motivated as PvD's. It's too quiet and to the same! But I picked up his new CD on the weekend. ROCKS ON!!

First off, van Dyk is very creative with his selections of tracks, especially his extended sets...throws in some housy tunes, as well as epic trance, techno, you name it....but he DOES NOT spin hard trance..

Tiesto, in my opinion, plays more melodic and cant be compared because the tunes he produces tracks that are quite different in energy compared to that of PVD....

But you'll always get those sets where they both play at least 5 of the same tunes...as long as you like what you hear...

I just wanna tell one thing : I have enough to hear about Tiesto in here and there ! (just see how many 'Dutch Dimension' posts there are)

Does people in this forum only know this DJ ? I mean, we see him everywhere. So what about the others dj's/producers ?

I suppose that most of them don't listen trance since 95, when this style explosed... A lot of artists should be more considered...

(sorry for my english !)

Greetings

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Originally posted by vmc PVD = banging and more melodic trance, representing 'German trance' Tiesto = more progressive stuff with lots of 'Dutch trance'

perfect

PvD - Hard?!? someonez on CRACK!

PVD is the best...

Re: The difference between PVD and Tiesto

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Originally posted by TranceSeeker PVD -> Just for example Tiesto would spin push - the legacy (club mix) PvD on the other hand would spin the svensson and gielen remix so...

er.... Paul would not even play "The Legacy" that`s such a bad track for him to play

Many Greetings,

f0x

Re: Re: The difference between PVD and Tiesto

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Originally posted by Starfox er.... Paul would not even play "The Legacy" that`s such a bad track for him to play Many Greetings, f0x

just making a comparison on what kind of style they (would/could) play ...

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Originally posted by vmc PVD = banging and more melodic trance, representing 'German trance' Tiesto = more progressive stuff with lots of 'Dutch trance'

NO! I disagree!

"Banging and more melodic trance, representing 'German Trance'" - I think that describes something like Tunnel Trance Force. NOT PvD. PvD's music is banging but "floaty"... it puts you in a state of stupor and hypnosis. I wouldn't call it melodic. A lot of it is very progressive.

As for 'Dutch Trance', well, sorry to say but Tiesto doesn't spin Dutch Trance anymore -- he did a few years back, but now he (to my great disappointment) has ventured into the "progressive" arena and become very boring. He spins shit like "Das Glockenspiel" and other NON-melodic crap that is extremely dull.

When I say 'Dutch Trance', I mean something like Armin - Communication, Dutchforce - Deadline, Veracoche - Carte Blanche, ...

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Originally posted by Eugene NO! I disagree! A lot of it is very progressive.

progressive huh???????

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[ As for 'Dutch Trance', well, sorry to say but Tiesto doesn't spin Dutch Trance anymore -- he did a few years back, but now he (to my great disappointment) has ventured into the "progressive" arena and become very boring. He spins shit like "Das Glockenspiel" and other NON-melodic crap that is extremely dull.

progressive is no fucking way boring OMG I hate it when people say this.
Progressive has so much value in his track, no climax, great synths, great overall.
listen to JAMES HOLDEN ess mix, omg if this is boring ....
You have to face that there is more than PVD uplifting trance, FACE IT !!!!
and give progressive a chance
BTW I like it when tiesto spins some progressive between.
Constant uplifting traxx isnt good too --> so some progressive tracks between them is very nice.
--> set building up with progressive and building to huge massive trancers is tha key !

das glockenspiel is a great track. there is nothing wrong with tiesto's playlist and dutch trance isn't the only trance out there and it certainly isn't the best trance out there. so what if he has gone a little progressive? people change. musical tastes change.

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Originally posted by M.A.R.K das glockenspiel is a great track. there is nothing wrong with tiesto's playlist and dutch trance isn't the only trance out there and it certainly isn't the best trance out there. so what if he has gone a little progressive? people change. musical tastes change.

hands up for ya!

Well -- of course there's more to trance than epic anthems. And yes, if you play too much uplifting it may get boring. However, if there's too much prog it will be even MORE boring. I dislike progressive music not because I'm uneducated or ignorant, but just because I dislike it. Simple as that. If I come to a prime-time event I expect to hear some exciting soaring melodies. When I saw both Tiesto and PvD live I didn't hear that. What I did hear was the boring "Glockenspiel", apathetic "Rapture", some sleepy stuff by Timo Maas...

Anyhow I don't wanna change the subject
Point is, I wouldn't call PvD's music "melodic."
And don't flame me for 'Dutch Trance', because this phrase has come to mean something specific. Of course people in Holland write all kinds of Trance, but when people say "Dutch Trance" they have something specific in mind.

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Originally posted by Eugene NO! I disagree! "Banging and more melodic trance, representing 'German Trance'" - I think that describes something like Tunnel Trance Force. NOT PvD. PvD's music is banging but "floaty"... it puts you in a state of stupor and hypnosis. I wouldn't call it melodic. A lot of it is very progressive.

IMO German trance = PVD's trance. Perhaps his style is unique, but he's the famous German trance dj. Another point is what one understand as German trance. But that's my point of view.
As for Tunnel Trance, I don't especially like it.

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As for 'Dutch Trance', well, sorry to say but Tiesto doesn't spin Dutch Trance anymore -- he did a few years back, but now he (to my great disappointment) has ventured into the "progressive" arena and become very boring. He spins shit like "Das Glockenspiel" and other NON-melodic crap that is extremely dull. When I say 'Dutch Trance', I mean something like Armin - Communication, Dutchforce - Deadline, Veracoche - Carte Blanche, ... [/B]

Perhaps you're right, but that's the evolution in trance music. PVD don't spin the same music as 3 years before, and so does Tiesto. You don't like progressive style, but many people like. I haven't heared Tiesto @ DD 2002 yet, but I like his set at DD 2001. It's progressive.

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Originally posted by Eugene Well -- of course there's more to trance than epic anthems. And yes, if you play too much uplifting it may get boring. However, if there's too much prog it will be even MORE boring. I dislike progressive music not because I'm uneducated or ignorant, but just because I dislike it. Simple as that. If I come to a prime-time event I expect to hear some exciting soaring melodies. When I saw both Tiesto and PvD live I didn't hear that. What I did hear was the boring "Glockenspiel", apathetic "Rapture", some sleepy stuff by Timo Maas... Anyhow I don't wanna change the subject Point is, I wouldn't call PvD's music "melodic." And don't flame me for 'Dutch Trance', because this phrase has come to mean something specific. Of course people in Holland write all kinds of Trance, but when people say "Dutch Trance" they have something specific in mind.

Well... ive to agree with you here mate I also went for tiesto because he was playing somewhere here in Belgium.
He spinned stuff like iio rapture and .... (in other words not the Uplifting things you expect).
I also was dissapointed, only the second hour he was playing great tracks like airwave and stuff so I know what you mean man.
But I like progressive to, maybe not on a party but ... hehe

Solid Sleep - Club Attack (PvD's TPOD Mix)
Paul van Dyk - Vega (Starcase Remix)

^^^ i don't know if i can give FULL credit to PvD for these gems since its either he remixed someone's track or someone remixed his track but if thats what PvD is about, then i dig it and i think it is melodic and mesmerizing.


EDIT - i think progressive sounds even better live in a club with a club sound system than at home. i can see why you won't like progressive listening at home but i can't figure how some of you aren't enjoying it when tiesto is spinning it live.

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IMO German trance = PVD's trance. Perhaps his style is unique, but he's the famous German trance dj. Another point is what one understand as German trance. But that's my point of view.

That's what I call the German paradox.
Paul van Dyk is the most famous DJ who just happens to be from Germany, yet the German trance scene and music is completely different. Take, for example, Tunnel Trance Force, labels like Axwax, Illuminate, etc.

I'm not German, but based on my musical experience I'd say that Paul van Dyk does NOT represent German trance.

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