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Hey guys,


As some of you may have noted, I have been appointed the new mod of this section. I know the moderation of the stickies and threads this forum has been relatively stagnant for the last little while and am here to try and change some of that!

In this thread I'd like to take some of the suggestions about how I can make this forum better for everyone.


All non serious suggestions and unrelated posting will be deleted.


Please do not start debates in this thread and if you have a conflicting suggestion, post it. I will evaluate all of them and try to come to a logical conclusion. If you can't hold something back, send me a PM and I will try to work it out.


Hopefully Luke Terry and I can help make these forums better. I myself already have some ideas but would like to hear from you guys.


Cheers,

Greg

Question and answer sessions with famous (or talented) producers. They do it on dogsonacid.com and it's very interesting.

A new tutorial master list? I know that is has been a while since it was updated. There are some new and and really usefull tutorials out that i think many should find easyer that way! Im will help out to find them, if needed!?

Cheers
C

Updgrade of the forums? A new fresh theme maybe?

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Originally posted by Corteoz Updgrade of the forums? A new fresh theme maybe?

That's not really in the power of the moderators, now is it?

FYI, the tutorial master list does get updated on a semi-regular basis, and if I get a PM about a tutorial or see a thread with a "Tutorial: " subject, most of the time I'll add it. On the other hand, I can't add tutorials that I don't know about, and I personally fail to see how starting a new sticky would solve that problem, regardless of who maintains it...

Don't want to start a debate or anything, just thought that comment seemed odd. Feel free to delete the reply - I've said all this before.

I think by a nw sticky, they mean a fresh, updated one. Currently I'm super busy moving into Montreal and am in and in and out of internet cafes but can't really sort it out all the moment. If you PM me links to tutorials, I can definetely do something about them, I just don't have the time to go digging through this forum. i will soon, but not now.

i dont no if you have control over this. but is it possible to change the search facility so that you dont have to type in a minimum of four letters to get a result. things like pro 53 or pvd you cant search for. gets really frustrating trying to find stuff.

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add some more usefull topics to the turorial master list like

music theory
melody creation
uplifting melody creation
hard melody creation
trance strings


they have this on a few other forums without naming which ones

if a lot of stuff was in the tutorial master a loto f people newbies would not post silly questions.

Sure, why not just ask for more tutorials on "how to become the best producer in the universe with no effort, money, or talent"?

Not every topic has a step-by-step guide. However, if you feel that there are good ones (such as the ones on these mysterious "other sites"), why haven't you contributed anything when it's been repeated ad-nauseam that a 5-second PM will generally get it added?

Be careful, Greg - don't let the inmates run the asylum. Most people with valuable insight will tend to approach the mods on a one-to-one basis. These virtual suggestion-boxes tend to self-select in favour of the cranks.

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Deleted my original response. I'm not going to get into this debate. I'm simply going to state for the record once again that people can PM me links to tutorials just as easily as they can PM a mod. It's irritating that anybody would think they need to go "over my head" when I'm not that picky and update regularly. And asking for specific content to be posted without providing any links sounds less like a desire to provide helpful info to the community and more like a desire to get somebody else to do the legwork for them. As such, I really don't think it's a helpful suggestion.

Interpreting my previous post as arrogant sounds like you read it as "I'm the only one with valid suggestions", but that's not even close to what I said. There are many people who contribute - they are the doctors. The inmates are the ones who only ever have questions. I never said inmates were the majority, just that this thread is going to be inherently selective toward them.

The Q&A was a neat suggestion. Upgrading the forum or lowering the search term limit are goofy suggestions. I stand by my statement that this thread is going to get a lot more inane suggestions than productive ones, and I can't see how that's arrogant in any sense of the word.

I think it should be a rule to post up a sample if you're going to make a "how do i make a sound like x artist?"

If you look at all the "how do i make a sound like..." thread, most of the time we can't help because no one posted a sample.

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Originally posted by Synchronicity When posting, how about smilies, links etc. being inserted at the cursor instead of the bottom of the message?

What do you mean by this?

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Originally posted by NO! I think it should be a rule to post up a sample if you're going to make a "how do i make a sound like x artist?" If you look at all the "how do i make a sound like..." thread, most of the time we can't help because no one posted a sample.

I like the sound of this... ... Will decide.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Sure, why not just ask for more tutorials on "how to become the best producer in the universe with no effort, money, or talent"? Not every topic has a step-by-step guide. However, if you feel that there are good ones (such as the ones on these mysterious "other sites"), why haven't you contributed anything when it's been repeated ad-nauseam that a 5-second PM will generally get it added? Be careful, Greg - don't let the inmates run the asylum. Most people with valuable insight will tend to approach the mods on a one-to-one basis. These virtual suggestion-boxes tend to self-select in favour of the cranks.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Deleted my original response. I'm not going to get into this debate. I'm simply going to state for the record once again that people can PM me links to tutorials just as easily as they can PM a mod. It's irritating that anybody would think they need to go "over my head" when I'm not that picky and update regularly. And asking for specific content to be posted without providing any links sounds less like a desire to provide helpful info to the community and more like a desire to get somebody else to do the legwork for them. As such, I really don't think it's a helpful suggestion. Interpreting my previous post as arrogant sounds like you read it as "I'm the only one with valid suggestions", but that's not even close to what I said. There are many people who contribute - they are the doctors. The inmates are the ones who only ever have questions. I never said inmates were the majority, just that this thread is going to be inherently selective toward them. The Q&A was a neat suggestion. Upgrading the forum or lowering the search term limit are goofy suggestions. I stand by my statement that this thread is going to get a lot more inane suggestions than productive ones, and I can't see how that's arrogant in any sense of the word.

I think you might be right, but I'm willing ot take that chance. Thus far it seems to be working out fairly well in the other DJ forums and I think I'll keep it open in this one. Just because I'm asking for suggestions doesn't mean I'm going to act on every one... I am just looking for a feel of what people find wrong with a forum like this and make one of two judgments about each suggestion: Shortsighted/Stupid/Immature/Irrelevant or Quality/Possible/Interesting/Clever. The ones that seem logical and easy to put into place, I have no problem doing- I just know not everone is going to PM a mod about things like this just because they won't... this gives people a public outlet and an opportunity to see what sort of issues are on other memebers' minds.

If it does get out of hand, it's very easy to delete, close or unsticky. So no worries.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations If it does get out of hand, it's very easy to delete, close or unsticky. So no worries.

Fair enough.

FYI, what Synchronicity was talking about was that if you're typing a message, and move the cursor back up to the middle or the beginning of the message, then click on one of the smilies, it still gets inserted at the end of the message (as opposed to where the cursor is).

(That, I believe, is another example of a vB limitation that you can't really change )

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Originally posted by Synchronicity When I think about it it's really not a big deal, but here's what I mean anyway: I finish typing this sentence. Then I finish this sentence and decide to put a link after the first, but when I insert the link it'll appear at the end of the whole message instead of where I put the cursor. Then I have to use shift and the arrow keys to cut and paste the link because when I try to select it it's joined onto the full stop. So I just think it would be nice if smilies/links/html could be input anywhere in the message rather than just the bottom. ++ Eh, so I hope I explained what I mean more clearly this time!

Agree . As you said, not a big deal, but can be verry annoying!

Either way, it's not something a mod can change and has nothing to do with this thread, really.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Either way, it's not something a mod can change and has nothing to do with this thread, really.

Well. Maybe he has a connection to the ones who can!

It would be great if you can add a new section that lists tutorial videos from YouTube or other places if there are some.

Also, the FAQ and tutorial master list doesn't really have a general overall explanation of setting up a trance song. If someone could make a turtorial of all the main things you do in a trance song, that would be great.

What I mean is how to set up a trance song so it's DJ friendly to mix, how many measures are usually used, when delay and reverb is used and for what instruments and sounds, the position of the usual break downs and transitions, creating a intro, creating a ending, etc. Just a general overview of a how a trance song is made. In other words, point out all the main things that make a trance song "trance" for this genre. I think this would be very helpful as a starting point in the master list.

If this already exists, I'd love to read it. Could someone please post a URL?

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Originally posted by Adambomb337 It would be great if you can add a new section that lists tutorial videos from YouTube or other places if there are some. Also, the FAQ and tutorial master list doesn't really have a general overall explanation of setting up a trance song. If someone could make a turtorial of all the main things you do in a trance song, that would be great. What I mean is how to set up a trance song so it's DJ friendly to mix, how many measures are usually used, when delay and reverb is used and for what instruments and sounds, the position of the usual break downs and transitions, creating a intro, creating a ending, etc. Just a general overview of a how a trance song is made. In other words, point out all the main things that make a trance song "trance" for this genre. I think this would be very helpful as a starting point in the master list. If this already exists, I'd love to read it. Could someone please post a URL?

These are technical tutorials, not step by step instructions. Trance isn't even that complex. If you can't deduce simple structural elements by yourself and need a tutorial for that, I suggest finding a new hobby. That sort of tutorial is the last thing today's cookie cutter generation needs.

I figured that if a beginner is able to make the standard trance song, then it would be easy to branch out from there and get more creative. I guess you're right though. And then we would probably have to choose one subgrenre of trance for an example...

I think tutorial videos would really help though more than anything

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