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Posted by irish-tech on Aug-26-2006 18:30:

Be Cool! Help With Soundproofing

hey guys - just moved into my college appt room and im getting serious reverberations and such throughout the room even at low levels on my monitors. i need help dampening the room so people cant hear it as much throughout the appt AND so i can get a clearer more realist sound coming from my monitors! i am totally new to dampening as my old room was suffiencently proofed before i bought monitors! any help would be wonderful!

spencer justin


Posted by Tony Morello on Aug-26-2006 19:42:

walls

hang heavy curtain along the walls, it's the cheapest and probably best solution in your situation

velvet usually works the best, but any heavy fabric will do


Posted by Zombie0915 on Aug-26-2006 19:47:

I guess the biggest thing would be to make sure your speakers aren't coupling with your desk or the walls or anything like that, so put them on some pillows or something like that.

The next thing would be to fill the room with clutter, that is a fairly cheap solution. Try to put some squishy things in corners especially.

I live in a little apartment surronded by college kids as well, and they can't stand trance so they hate when I make too much noise, the problem with bass is that it just shakes everything and goes right through the thin apartment walls.

Hang up lots of quilts and tapestries and stuff, try to find thick ones.


Posted by Abhay on Aug-26-2006 22:30:

quilts and blankets work really well.

Put them under your door in particular. If you can buy a few quilts, hang them up around all 4 walls surface, and make sure u seal up the door.

If you have spare fabric left over put extras on the corners.

It's a bit extreme, but hey, it works pretty well. Turn the bass down while you mix, it isn't really all that necessary anyway.


Posted by nchs09 on Aug-26-2006 22:53:

so ur wall is gonna look like a fucking giant quilt?!


fuck that just buy that foam they sell and clue it, looks nicer.


Posted by harriz on Aug-27-2006 00:31:

Re: Help With Soundproofing

quote:
Originally posted by askspence68
hey guys - just moved into my college appt room and im getting serious reverberations and such throughout the room even at low levels on my monitors. i need help dampening the room so people cant hear it as much throughout the appt AND so i can get a clearer more realist sound coming from my monitors! i am totally new to dampening as my old room was suffiencently proofed before i bought monitors! any help would be wonderful!

spencer justin


Sorry but blankets on the wall wont do fu*k but make your room look like AS S.

Isolate the monitors from the room first.
Use this it's pretty cheap and effective.



Next go out and steal 250$ without getting caught.
Visit this website where you can buy foam without paying for branding.
http://www.foambymail.com/CornerSolutions.html

The biggest problem in rooms is bass management
You will need 8 of these.
CORNER BASS ABSORBERS
.
The 8 pack costs $96 for black and $132 for colors.
2 will go at the lower corners between you and the monitors.
You also will need 2 CORNER BLOCKS
They cost 25 for black and 33 for color.

Split the remaining 6 CORNER BASS ABSORBERS into 3 and 3 and make
a nice corner fill for the upper walls just as shown in the picture http://www.sweetwater.com/store/closeup/Atom12--Main but instead of paing 1000$ for a pair you will only pay $125.
So you don't pay Marketers, advertisers, e.c.t. you just pay for the fu*king foam.

Next you need 2 X (Acoustic Foam - Wedge12" x 12" x 3" (12 Pack) )

http://www.foambymail.com/Wedge.html
Make a nice wee pattern and stick it to the wall in front of you.
cost $48

Next you need another $ 49 to buy the auralex temporary tabs to stick that stuff to the wall coz if you put glue on someones wall he will take a gun and hunt you down and kill you.




http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TempTabs/

Total cost 48 + 25 + 96 + 49 = 218$


Posted by n3lly on Aug-27-2006 01:46:

Re: Re: Help With Soundproofing

quote:
Originally posted by harriz
Sorry but blankets on the wall wont do fu*k but make your room look like AS S.



while extreme.. Obviously.. The above post is the best post i've seen in 4 yrs of looking around and asking the 'sound proofing' question every now and again.

From what i've read, everything you've suggested makes sense. Again, it'll make your room look like a loony's room, but still it'll definitely work.

I'm impressed.


Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-27-2006 01:59:

Harriz is so right. Blankets will help dampen the highs and mids, but won't do anything to proof your room.

Essentially is you want to sound proof, rip out all your walls and start from the inside out.

There are plenty of quicker fixes though, but you better be ready to D.I.Y.!


Posted by LENG on Aug-27-2006 03:08:

say if your sound-proofing stuffs have been there for maybe 1-2 years, would hygiene be a problem then? cuz yanno, the air aren't circulating that much, some get stuck into the foams/watever it is made of.

just another quick one tho, would there be a big difference when producing with a sound-proofed room compared to one that isn't?


Posted by Bedlam-UK on Aug-27-2006 03:25:

your friends will think you a loony with a fetish having stained quilts stuck on the wall

Why dont you buy some cheap MDF or wood and build a small square box big enough for you and all your gear. add a door and then pad the inside with quilts or foam and then cover that with some thin wood or more MDF, your own mini studio

just dont forget to put in an air vent !!


Posted by Zombie0915 on Aug-27-2006 04:01:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
so ur wall is gonna look like a fucking giant quilt?!


fuck that just buy that foam they sell and clue it, looks nicer.


fuck that, I have a very nice looking quilt


Posted by Bedlam-UK on Aug-27-2006 04:08:

well I go through 3 girls a week and some of my quilts wouldn't be nice to look at stuck on the wall

lol...this is a crazy discussion


Posted by harriz on Aug-27-2006 06:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Bedlam-UK
well I go through 3 girls a week and some of my quilts wouldn't be nice to look at stuck on the wall

lol...this is a crazy discussion


Thats always good to know.
Thank you for contributing that useful and insightful information to the board.


Posted by Eldritch on Aug-27-2006 08:39:

Quilts or foam won't do much at all for soundproofing. The bass will still escape through the walls and door. You would have to build thicker walls or create a "room within a room". Maybe bass traps would work though? I'm not sure.


Posted by harriz on Aug-27-2006 09:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Eldritch
Quilts or foam won't do much at all for soundproofing. The bass will still escape through the walls and door. You would have to build thicker walls or create a "room within a room". Maybe bass traps would work though? I'm not sure.


I am not talking about sound proofing I am talking about room treatment.
The neighbors will still have a problem with him if he cracks up the gain but the room will have a far more accurate low end and will sound less tiring.


Posted by RivalMan on Aug-27-2006 10:17:

Hi.

Some great advice in this thread. When starting to do anything you should really keep focus on your goal with the room and treatment, i.e. do you want to use it for vocal tracking, control room monitoring or is the purpose only to make sure that no sounds from inside get out and vice versa. Anyhow, this is a great article with some good advice:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jul...faqacoustic.htm


Regards


Posted by Eldritch on Aug-27-2006 12:13:

quote:
Originally posted by harriz
I am not talking about sound proofing I am talking about room treatment.
The neighbors will still have a problem with him if he cracks up the gain but the room will have a far more accurate low end and will sound less tiring.


But the thread is about soundproofing.


Posted by irish-tech on Aug-28-2006 00:34:

Be Cool!

Wow! some great ideas from all of you i Reallllly appreciate the help. Ill sort out all the posting ideas and come up with something in between.. obviously in a perfect world id be able to proof it properly and what not but really im just looking for the most effective way to treat my room so i have as little noise overflow and whatnot into the rest of the appt (i.e. so i dont piss off my roommates... haha) this appt is so fuckin flimsy (college appts... fuck em) that even with my monitors on 20% theres a fair amount of reverberation and distortion which is a big problemo if im trying to produce professionally hahaha

AGAIN: thanks so much fellas, reallly appreciate the help! and yeah i agree this actually turned into quite a good forum thread!


Posted by Abhay on Aug-28-2006 08:41:

hey,

stop putting down blankets you guys. Blankets are cool.

But yeah, it doesn't do anything for the bass. but like i said, u'll just have to turn that down, as it's not that necessary to practice with. Just a little bit of bass should be enough.

Personally, i use the blankets. I think it works, and ppl living in the flats around me says it makes it quieter.

Or you could just mix in your headphones.

But yeah dude, if u have the money, just get the insulative material. The stuff is a lot more effective than blankets, judging from my experiences with it in uni.


Posted by Zombie0915 on Aug-30-2006 22:56:

Seems to be a distinction here, there are decorative quilts and there are quilts you roll around on in your bedroom, I wouldnt suggest putting those on your walls.

But being from the south there are quite alot of quilts available that look really nice and wouldnt be the kind of thing you'd lay on your bed and get stains all over.

I really should get some pics of mine, I use them for decoration rather than sound treatment though.


Posted by skot_e on Aug-31-2006 05:45:

Putting treatment in the room will help to give the room a flatter response, however it will not prevent the spill into the next room. The only way to achieve soundproofing is to get issolation which is costly and pointless if the room is not 'yours' (ie college dorm).


Posted by Zombie0915 on Aug-31-2006 15:01:

I guess we brough up treatment rather than soundproofing because people so often talk about both of these issues at the same time. If I was worried about other people getting annoyed by my tracks, I'd move out in the country, but that is alot easier to do here than it is in most cities.



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