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Posted by mr. poopyhead on Mar-10-2002 07:04:

i wonder....

i've always wondered.... if musical geniuses like mozart and beethoven and stuff were born today, and we gave them a drum machine and a good synth, what kind of trance music would they make? i bet it'd fucken OWN anything out there... too bad they were born 300 years ago and are stone dead now...

just some thoughts...


Posted by Eu4ea on Mar-10-2002 07:19:

so interesting you say that...

I have ALWAYS thought that trance was the classical music of today. Classical music is the only music that embodies the sort of emotion and passion that trance conveys. I would give a limb for a tiesto remix of Moonlight Sonata.


Posted by Great Outdoors on Mar-10-2002 11:26:

Re: so interesting you say that...

quote:
Originally posted by Eu4ea_18
I have ALWAYS thought that trance was the classical music of today.


Amazing; I have always thought so too.


Posted by vmc on Mar-10-2002 11:37:

Re: so interesting you say that...

quote:
Originally posted by Eu4ea_18
I have ALWAYS thought that trance was the classical music of today. Classical music is the only music that embodies the sort of emotion and passion that trance conveys. I would give a limb for a tiesto remix of Moonlight Sonata.

Yeah, that's the point. It's like: not everyone understands classical music, such as trance music. IMO trance is the music for intelligent people. That's why it will never be very commercial. And it's VERY good.


Posted by Rostros on Mar-10-2002 12:13:

mixing in the grave

I think the great classic genuis will never be able to play trance , as they are born into what they like . would you think paul van dyk could sing at an opera and have ferry and digweed in the choir ??


Posted by dj_mdma on Mar-10-2002 13:46:

I totally agree with this topic. The many layers of synths are comparable to orchestral music, where all the different instruments produce a good noise.

Trance producers also take leaves from classical composers books too. Look at Magik Journey, Dido, Willow, and stuffwith classical influences1. Those tunes are generally amazing cos of those ideas!!!


Posted by mr. poopyhead on Mar-10-2002 19:55:

wow.... word to all the replies... i love classical music too. i also really like any orchestral sounding trance music, anything with really good string samples like, darren tate - pulse... sounds almost like a real orchestra.

i really LOVE the breakdown of, svenson & gielen - we know what you did. the cello sounding thing sounds GREAT.

i've always wondered what it'd be like if you played a trance song using all acoustic instruments.... i think it'd be way cool to enjoy some trance music at roy thomson hall (home of the toronto symphony orchestra, for the non-torontonians, =P) or some crap, with some trance producer as the conductor. some people think i'm nuts though, =P....

let's clone mozart and make him produce trance music...


Posted by litlitaly on Mar-10-2002 20:01:

Re: so interesting you say that...

quote:
Originally posted by Eu4ea_18
I have ALWAYS thought that trance was the classical music of today.


Yeah. I agree. Quite a lot of dance music is variation on a theme, with more sounds added to the theme as it develops - just like classical music.


Posted by Michael Russo on Mar-10-2002 20:32:

Wow,I was thinking the same thing too... I agree with everyone in this thread, except Rozzer... what are u trying to say???


Posted by Michael Russo on Mar-10-2002 20:35:

BTW, we're playing Barber's Adagio for Strings AND Ravel's Pavane Pour Une Infante Defunte in band at school right now lol


Posted by Fir3start3r on Mar-10-2002 20:41:

Wink

I used to play in a large classical concert band back in high school and loved it! (We won many music awards and they have a loooong history).
Then I'd loose myself in the music room during breaks, lunch and after school to play with the drum machines, sequencer, DX21 and DX7 (Synths) for hours on end. (Why oh why did I ever stop!? )

Philhormonic film scores are also a passion of mine.

Trance was an easy progression for me....


Posted by NY1004 on Mar-10-2002 23:16:

I guess that's why I'm a sucker for piano in a trance tune.


Posted by SYNthSRI on Mar-10-2002 23:25:

Modern music genre that is comparable to rennaisance era Classical -- IMHO -- would be 'New Age' more than Trance.


Posted by nate735 on Mar-10-2002 23:38:

Havo you ever heard the song "Aria One - Willow (dj tiestos magikal remake)". Aria in italian means a solo or duet in the opera. Trance and clasical music are VERY similar.


Posted by mr. poopyhead on Mar-11-2002 04:40:

fucken WORD to everything that's been said.. 'cept for rozzer... wtf you sayin dude?? can you please elaborate, =P....

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
I used to play in a large classical concert band back in high school and loved it! (We won many music awards and they have a loooong history).
Then I'd loose myself in the music room during breaks, lunch and after school to play with the drum machines, sequencer, DX21 and DX7 (Synths) for hours on end. (Why oh why did I ever stop!? )

Philhormonic film scores are also a passion of mine.

Trance was an easy progression for me....


wtf kind of school has drum machines and synths??? good lord... what school board were you part of?? my school was poor as fuck dude, =P...... i played the trumpet in band, =P.... i wish they taught me how to use a synth and drum machine...


Posted by randummboy on Mar-11-2002 04:56:

mkay.. i'm going to stick up for rozzer here..

what hes trying to say is that times were different back then and so was the way they thought and composed and whatever..

so lets take a great a rock group like the beatles, and tell them to make speed metal, they just wouldn't be able to do it.. kinda a shitty analogy, but thats all i could think of off the top of my head

altho classical and trance do share some similaritis, they are not the same.. as with rock adn speed metal, they share some common elements but thier is no way to translate..

rozzer, did i interperit this correctly?


Posted by mr. poopyhead on Mar-11-2002 05:34:

quote:
Originally posted by randummboy
mkay.. i'm going to stick up for rozzer here..

what hes trying to say is that times were different back then and so was the way they thought and composed and whatever..

so lets take a great a rock group like the beatles, and tell them to make speed metal, they just wouldn't be able to do it.. kinda a shitty analogy, but thats all i could think of off the top of my head

altho classical and trance do share some similaritis, they are not the same.. as with rock adn speed metal, they share some common elements but thier is no way to translate..

rozzer, did i interperit this correctly?


yeah... i see your point, and its totally valid.. but MY point in the first place was, that IF mozart and his classical contemporaries were born TODAY, whut kinda kickass trance would they make? it doesn't seem to matter now... but yeah.. that was it....

i wasn't expecting mozart to break out a synth back in the day and bust out some trance music dude, =P


Posted by dj_mdma on Mar-11-2002 14:02:

quote:
Originally posted by nate735
Havo you ever heard the song "Aria One - Willow (dj tiestos magikal remake)". Aria in italian means a solo or duet in the opera. Trance and clasical music are VERY similar.


Theres a sample of a real opera in that tune. I can't reember what its from.

Also I think that the musical intro of Dido is from the real opera Dido. or its from a film. I can't remember!

OTher tunes with classical influences (There was also a thread about this some time ago)

Sweet Surrender (Tiesto Remix)
Symphonic - Bolero
MAgik Journey



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