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Posted by itsamemario on Mar-10-2002 17:45:

mixing length...

this is something ive been wondering for a while...
how long is your average mixes here at ta?
mine are usually from 1 to 1 and a half min long....


Posted by itsamemario on Mar-10-2002 17:49:

when i say mixing lenght i mean from when you can hear track 2 coming in and till the mix is over


Posted by Great Outdoors on Mar-11-2002 07:43:

I voted "0.30 to 1.00"; I think any longer and I'll definately screw up. Admiration for those who voted "1.00 to 1.30"!


Posted by dj_unsorted on Mar-11-2002 10:29:

i voted for 1:30 + ... but i don't usually mix mealodys... you know that like... last 16-8 bars where it's just drums in a song? well i record it with my 303... then play that after the first song is over... and usually go til the second song breaks down... erm... yeah...

so i dunno if my vote counts...


Posted by Scorchio on Mar-11-2002 16:42:

Voted for 30 - 60 Seconds
What I usually do is start off with the EQ on -24db
then i switch the Hi frquencuies, let in a little bass, starts turning the Med frequency,
a little more bass, I lower the first tracks Med and Hi frequencies graduatly, equal the basses and kill the first track's bass just in the right second
all and all
it takes about 45 seconds


Posted by DJTJ on Mar-11-2002 21:50:

I like really long and smooth mixes, which are often over 1:30. Someone mentioned this not long ago i think, but one thing I sometimes do is put on a really long track, then mix in another shorter track, play that through (whilst mixed in to the other one) and the second, shorter one finishes before the first, longer one, and so I then get another record and mix that into the first one! Sounds very good when you get it right. But i'm a perfectionist, so IMO I don't do this very often!


Posted by eran on Mar-12-2002 10:41:

I voted for 1:30 and more..
Usually my mixes are about 1:30-2:00 minutes, but it really depends on the style and the tracks structure. It can vary from half a minute to more than 3 and 4 minutes..


Posted by spectra on Mar-12-2002 13:06:

I voted for 1:30 mins +, thats usally how long mine are, sometimes a bit shorter, but Its FAR easier in Traktor than it is with TT's, if I could try spinning the tracks I use in Traktor, I would prolly fuck up.


Posted by tijs08 on Mar-12-2002 16:51:

voted for 0030 - 1000 minute!

I think i will go over the 1 min mark a lot but think that 1 minute is the average of my mix. But more under 1 minute then above it!

Greetzz


Posted by Tak on Mar-14-2002 12:01:

I put 30 - 1:00, but it varies on the tracks.
Some tracks I just jump in at a good spot and it's all over in .5 of a second. Others I'll ease in the Hi, then Low(My mixer is Hi-Low only) then take out the Low then high of the first, this can take as long as 2:00 min in some songs if i got the base perfect the whole way. I do DJTJ's mix of one song over another sometimes but you have to really pick your tracks, I love to do it with the vocals of one track only sometimes.
My FAV trick is to cut over a song with some vocals like from Marco V godd, so thats all they hear, then bring in the first song again only stronger, let it play out and mix in the second. Do it right and ppl go NUTS!


Posted by Great Outdoors on Mar-15-2002 06:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Tak
I put 30 - 1:00, but it varies on the tracks.
Some tracks I just jump in at a good spot and it's all over in .5 of a second. Others I'll ease in the Hi, then Low(My mixer is Hi-Low only) then take out the Low then high of the first, this can take as long as 2:00 min in some songs if i got the base perfect the whole way. I do DJTJ's mix of one song over another sometimes but you have to really pick your tracks, I love to do it with the vocals of one track only sometimes.
My FAV trick is to cut over a song with some vocals like from Marco V godd, so thats all they hear, then bring in the first song again only stronger, let it play out and mix in the second. Do it right and ppl go NUTS!


Do you mind if you go through the process one more time? I don't really get you..sorry. But this new mixing technique sounds interesting


Posted by DJ Darchinova on Mar-15-2002 09:31:

1:30+

I am suprised that some people have such short mixes.. if you want a long mix you have to get the pitch right!!!

Usually songs break off with about 1:20-1:40 to go..
and intro start around in that time too


Posted by Elyksir on Mar-15-2002 11:34:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Darchinova
1:30+

I am suprised that some people have such short mixes.. if you want a long mix you have to get the pitch right!!!

Usually songs break off with about 1:20-1:40 to go..
and intro start around in that time too


1.00 - 1.30 I guess, but that depends on a song's structure. Well I like to mix two songs in a middle between two main parts not just letting them to finish and then just mix, that's kind of boring I think.

greeetz


Posted by oDrori on Mar-15-2002 14:47:

I took the 1:00 - 1:30 part... Pretty easy to do this with Trance compared to other genres from some perspectives...

Longest, smooth (really) mix I've succeeded making is about 2:40- 3:00 mins.


Posted by TranceFool on Mar-15-2002 16:45:

I think the style you are playing is very important. If you play soft relaxed trance a long mixing length is great. But when you are playing hard and fast trance with a high BPM its better the have a shorter mixing length..


Posted by ClubHarder on Mar-15-2002 17:37:

Thumbs up I agree

quote:
Originally posted by TranceFool
I think the style you are playing is very important. If you play soft relaxed trance a long mixing length is great. But when you are playing hard and fast trance with a high BPM its better the have a shorter mixing length..


Yeh i agree with TranceFool, all depends on the style of the song being played


Posted by ChooChoo on Mar-15-2002 18:59:

Well, I voted on 1.30+ too. And as everybody is saying: It depends what style you're spinning. I very often like to spin some nice deep prog and those mixes are quite long (but sometimes pretty frustrating, because of my crappy tt's). But they go very well most of the time. When i spin trance it's more like 1.00-1.30 and sometimes more.

greetz


Posted by djxtension on Mar-16-2002 21:59:

1.00 - 1.30, sometimes a bit shorter.

It really depends on the record i'm playing, and what record i'm mixing into it.

My style is a bit melodic/uplifting, with sometimes a bit harder stuff tossed in.

As I said, it all depends on the records i'm playing.


Posted by Great Outdoors on Mar-17-2002 10:59:

I'm really in awe- how can you guys mix in records with almost 2 minutes of transition? I mean, besides the obvious difficulty of getting the 2 records to beat-match for these 2 minutes (which already will be a challenge IMO), you will have to start to beatmatch the second track straightaway after cue-ing in the first one, because the average length of a track is abour 5 to 6 minutes, and beatmatching to that sort of accuracy will normally take you 2 to 3 minutes. These quick calculations just means that you will be trying to beatmatch for the duration of your whole set. It's just insane! You'll go nuts!


Posted by Dj Moriano on Mar-17-2002 17:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Scorchio
Voted for 30 - 60 Seconds
What I usually do is start off with the EQ on -24db
then i switch the Hi frquencuies, let in a little bass, starts turning the Med frequency,
a little more bass, I lower the first tracks Med and Hi frequencies graduatly, equal the basses and kill the first track's bass just in the right second
all and all
it takes about 45 seconds


listen ahi if all your mixing sounds like that it's aint good becaus you have to change from mix to mix so it wont the same all over the set.....


Posted by Scorchio on Mar-17-2002 18:27:

I dont always do it, sometimes i use the CDJ-100 Effects, or just put both tracks together with just the bass off.


Posted by DJ Fien on Mar-18-2002 04:23:

You can correct your beatmatching in the middle of the mix. What I'm training myself to do is only spend about 30sec getting the beats matched, but holding 1min+ mixes by using the pitch slider to correct any slips in the beats.

That way, I can prepare myself for what I really want to do - Run acapellas and do mash ups on the fly, working 3-4 decks at a time.


Posted by Dj Moriano on Mar-18-2002 13:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Scorchio
I dont always do it, sometimes i use the CDJ-100 Effects, or just put both tracks together with just the bass off.



i love those effects......

i also tried your idea and it was good, but try to make a got cut mix i mean take out and put in the track by cut mix
if you do it good it's sounds great......


Posted by djaaronpark on Mar-29-2002 01:48:

depends on the tracks some only sound good when blended quickly some sound better when beats are replaced(drawn out mixes) if u listen to sasha and digweed the do both quite often


Posted by netw3rkd on Nov-02-2002 03:26:

Anywhere from 1:00 to 1:30. Thats my average time. Somtimes shorter and sometimes longer.


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