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Posted by Emperor on Sep-02-2006 03:40:

switching to logic audio from sx3...

has anyone made this move?? i think im going to get a mac and have not used logic..i am very furmiliar with sx3 and past cubase software..would the switch to Logic be a tough one do you guys think? thanks


Posted by Bedlam-UK on Sep-02-2006 14:03:

at the end of the day they are just computers and they all do the same thing....it's how you use them that makes the difference.


Posted by Akazi on Sep-02-2006 14:08:

the automation is done better in Logic,the instruments that come with logic are better too, apart of that everything else is pretty much the same!


Posted by michaelconway on Sep-07-2006 09:33:

umm.. not the end product though. You can make two identical tracks one with cubase and one with logic. They will sound diffrent because each renders(not sure if its the right word) the sound diffrently. this is information I got from Torsten fastbenders trance experiance book I just thought it would be inportant to know that no they are not all the same at the end of the day. ofcourse i bet its not a great deal diffrent.. but diffrent all the same.


Posted by No Left Turn on Sep-07-2006 09:42:

switch if you have to. if you're already familiar with cubase and can write music in it, then there's no point in switching unless logic has that one magical feature that instantly enables you to write amazing music in a way that no other daw can.


Posted by Emperor on Sep-08-2006 00:44:

I imagine the logic renders better....i dont like how cubase exports for some reason. Ive always hated it.. Even fruity i thought exported nicer. But that is not enough reason to switch over. I have other reasons.....I have heard the same about export though.


Posted by mysticalninja on Sep-08-2006 00:49:

Didn't we do do a test of this before.. the same midi exported off the same vst in both FL and Cubase.. sounded exactly the same.


Posted by Bedlam-UK on Sep-08-2006 11:39:

I didn't mention anything about anything being better or sounding different......but as that's where the thread is leading......so is the difference that much that a track wouldn't be a hit or enjoyable to listen to if produced in one and not the other ? I don't think so.

obviously 'out-of-the-box' both cubase and logic will not be configured to produce the same sounds and you would most probably hear differences in both.......but like I said......at the end of the day it's how you use your tools and if you are a master with your 'knobs' then you can produce the same sound in any software.

If you are switching to Logic for a particular soft-synth or effect then that's a diffenrent story alltogether.

Finally, "would the switch to Logic be a tough one" ?

YES, because you will then have to start learning how to use your shiney new Macintosh aswell as Logic and then all the over toothing problems that come with new computers......make your own choice on this one and good luck.

ps. you will let us all know how it goes I hope


Posted by michaelconway on Sep-09-2006 17:40:

My point was there a subtle tonal diffrences between the two because of how each renders audio. Its not the fact of one being better than the other its just that for personal taste it depends on ones self. But i Imagine they wont be such a big diffrence to produce a "hit" or a "magically" make songs sound better. Personally I like my PC


Posted by DigiNut on Sep-09-2006 18:13:

Cubase exists for Mac too, so that's something you might want to consider before switching. Is the Mac specifically for the use of Logic, or is the platform switch incidental?

Logic's an excellent sequencer, and if you're a good producer the switch shouldn't be excruciating, but nevertheless there's going to be a rather unproductive period of moving up the learning curve, which seems like a waste unless you have some specific reason in mind.


Posted by Kthought on Sep-12-2006 18:23:

The following was told directly to my face:

"Drop everything you are doing, and learn Logic. It will be worth your time no matter where you are now." - Randy Boyer

"Theres nothing like Logic, everything else is a waste of time." - Elevation

"Logic is where its at, I highly recommend only using Logic" - Markus Schulz

I still use SX3 because its the switch and down time/ learning curve i'm afraid of. but those things were said right to my face!


Posted by Final Call on Sep-12-2006 20:33:

Ferry Corsten used Cubase SX for L.E.F


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-12-2006 20:56:

Steve Helstrip (Thrillseekers) and James Holden both use Cubase.

People who say that Logic is the only way for anyone to make a pro track are just talking nonsense. Logic may be the only way that they can make good tracks, but that does not hold universally by any means.


Posted by DigiNut on Sep-12-2006 22:21:

Be careful of getting stuck in religious wars. If someone tells you, for example, that Logic is "where it's at", without giving any additional information, that's the red flag of religion.

People who have honestly given any objective consideration to the issue will tend to speak well of competing products (unless they're truly lousy, which certainly isn't the case here), and/or give specifics reasons to use one or the other, pros and cons of them.

There are professionals who use Reason. There are professionals who use Fruityloops. However you may feel about those, the important thing is that producers have very diverse choices and preferences, and a few vocal ones voicing platitudes about their preference being "best" does not equate to any kind of expert testimony.


Posted by Final Call on Sep-12-2006 23:28:

+1 to that!


Posted by pixxxan on Sep-13-2006 04:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Emperor
I imagine the logic renders better....i dont like how cubase exports for some reason. Ive always hated it.. Even fruity i thought exported nicer. But that is not enough reason to switch over. I have other reasons.....I have heard the same about export though.



pfffffffff...... fruity rendering better than cubase??????????????
man u must have something really fucked up (on hardware,software or headware).


Posted by Final Call on Sep-13-2006 20:08:

when i tried working in cubase..all my stuff sounded like crap but sounded way better in FL


Posted by /I\ on Sep-13-2006 22:28:

good point there, and imagine you would probably spend about half a year getting to know the ins and outs of a new sequencer, why bother as they all do the same job. Unless you really dont like cubase that is


Posted by /I\ on Sep-13-2006 22:30:

p.s. there still a good version of logic for PC kicking around ebay and such, think 5.5.1 was the last. Maybe easier on the pocket to try that


Posted by trancintaiwan on Sep-14-2006 08:25:

well logic definitely has more features than cubase. not just for e.d.m. i'm talking scoring music for orchestras, including video, list goes on and on. i've been using logic 7 for the last month and i've been thoroughly impressed with many of the new features, but if your just producing e.d.m., probably doesn't make too much of a difference between logic and cubase. i guess it all depends if you really need all these new plugins and features in your sequencer. cubase may not be as flexible in certain aspects, but you can pretty much do the same stuff in a different way.


Posted by Mikk on Sep-14-2006 09:53:

I'm really looking forward to this:

Cubase 4

It's going to have more and better effects, VSTi's (looking very much like the logic ones.. ) etc.

I HOPE it's going to have re-arrangeable inserts, better group and effects routing..

Anyway, I sure am going to update as soon as it comes out

Some screenshots

Interesting ad, though it seems weird to publish such when no official information is yet available on the steinberg site. But somebody on the forum claims this was on a magazine.


Posted by trancintaiwan on Sep-14-2006 14:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Mikk
I'm really looking forward to this:

Cubase 4

It's going to have more and better effects, VSTi's (looking very much like the logic ones.. ) etc.

I HOPE it's going to have re-arrangeable inserts, better group and effects routing..

Anyway, I sure am going to update as soon as it comes out

Some screenshots

Interesting ad, though it seems weird to publish such when no official information is yet available on the steinberg site. But somebody on the forum claims this was on a magazine.


ah.. i guess they are making it compete with logic 7. new version now includes video, notation, and lots of new plug-ins. i guess its either or now... lol.



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