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Starter Kit?

i was wondering if getting 2 Technics SL-DZ1200 and a Technics SH-MZ1200 mixer would be a reasonable starter setup. as im only 16 i want something cheap but reasonable decks. i want them to be able to last me until i get a real job. thnx

There's been lot of problems with that Technics CDJ, your best bet is with Pioneer or Denon as far as CDJ are concerned. Something like the CDJ 200 or CDJ 800 MK2 from Pioneer, or from Denon..the DNS-3500. For mixers, something like an Ecler Nuo 2 or Nuo 3 should work, a DJM 300 or 400 from Pioneer, or a Numark DXM-06 or 09. Perhaps check out some from Vestax, like the VMC-004, and or a used PCV-275, though it is a bit dated (have one, getting an Ecler Nuo 3 or Nuo 4 for Christmas).

ive also overheard about getting the "industrial" is better? are those what you anmed as "industrial?" =S

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Originally posted by MeRc_4_HiRe ive also overheard about getting the "industrial" is better? are those what you anmed as "industrial?" =S

Industry standard you mean? Yes Pioneer are the industry standard for CDJs, but Denons are also used too. But i'de recommend Pionner as far as CDJs go, so would other people on here.

yea pioneers seem to be quite popular, ok my goal by the end of the year is to get the 2 CDJ800 MK2's and the DJM400. thnx heaps.

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Originally posted by MeRc_4_HiRe yea pioneers seem to be quite popular, ok my goal by the end of the year is to get the 2 CDJ800 MK2's and the DJM400. thnx heaps.

Cool, talk to Miamitranceman, that is the exact setup he has. I'de test out all of this equipment first, like at a store that sells DJ equipment. I wouldn't order thist stuff without knowing this is the exact thing you want, and you get the feel of it that way.

CDJ-800s are a good choice. You may want to check out the Ecler Nuo3 in addition to the DJM-400. Personally, I would prefer the Ecler. Your CD players and your mixer don't have to be the same brand.

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Originally posted by MeRc_4_HiRe ive also overheard about getting the "industrial" is better? are those what you anmed as "industrial?" =S

Industry standard just means alot of professional setups use them. As for as industry standard for cd players go most people will tell you pio cdj800 or 1000s.
The djm line of mixers are popular in clubs but for a bedroom setup I would rather get the new vestax vmc-004 with effects.

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Originally posted by MeRc_4_HiRe yea pioneers seem to be quite popular, ok my goal by the end of the year is to get the 2 CDJ800 MK2's and the DJM400. thnx heaps.

well u didnt take much convincing then u havent even used them yet

i think cause tiesto uses pioneer which makes them popular cause everyone wants to be like tiestorr xD

i dunno, looks wise i like the djm800 over the Ecler Nuo3 and its 4 channel, could come in handy if i upgrade or something in the long future =p

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Originally posted by MeRc_4_HiRe i think cause tiesto uses pioneer which makes them popular cause everyone wants to be like tiestorr xD i dunno, looks wise i like the djm800 over the Ecler Nuo3 and its 4 channel, could come in handy if i upgrade or something in the long future =p

The DJM 800 is overkill, you will save a ton of money getting an Ecler Nuo 4. It might not be a truly digital mixer like DJM 800 is, but it still has decent sound quality and 4 channels and can also be used as a MIDI controller, like for Ableton. You'd be saving almost $1,000 getting an Ecler vs. a DJM 800. It's just way more than you will ever need...

For just two CD decks the DJM-800 might be a bit too much to start out with, as was already stated. That's a lot of cash!

Also, don't run out to guitar center or something and buy your gear. There's a lot of haggle room for this stuff... so don't pay retail prices!

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 For just two CD decks the DJM-800 might be a bit too much to start out with, as was already stated. That's a lot of cash! Also, don't run out to guitar center or something and buy your gear. There's a lot of haggle room for this stuff... so don't pay retail prices!

You can negotiate with those guys really easy, well with the ones i've been to. I paid a little under $2,000 for my CDJ 1000 MK2s. They were suggested for $1,200, they gave them to me for like $950 a piece, so if you buy two CDJs and a mixer, they might be able to give you a good package deal for all of it. But do try Agiprodj.com, i've heard they have some very good prices, and are easily negotiable, again talk to Miamitranceman, he dealt with them buying his setup, and he seemed to have no big problems with them.

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Originally posted by MeRc_4_HiRe i think cause tiesto uses pioneer which makes them popular cause everyone wants to be like tiestorr xD i dunno, looks wise i like the djm800 over the Ecler Nuo3

That's two of the dumbest reasons I've ever heard of for choosing a mixer.

You need to do some serious research, and get some hands-on play before you start buying equipment.

When you're ready, the gentlemen at www.agiprodj.com will be more than happy to cut you the best deal ever.

And, I don't know any DJs who want to be like Tiesto.

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Originally posted by Spirit5 The DJM 800 is overkill, you will save a ton of money getting an Ecler Nuo 4. It might not be a truly digital mixer like DJM 800 is, but it still has decent sound quality and 4 channels and can also be used as a MIDI controller, like for Ableton. You'd be saving almost $1,000 getting an Ecler vs. a DJM 800. It's just way more than you will ever need...

Well, more like $500. I would definitely prefer the DJM-800 to the Ecler Nuo4.

Conversely, I would much rather have the Ecler Nuo3 over the DJM-400.

You have to look at things on a case-by-case basis.

I totally disagree that the DJM-800 is overkill, though. If you have the cash to spend, it's a great mixer to learn on. It has a simple, easy to use layout. I just fear a beginner would screw around with effects rather than learn how to mix. There are valid reasons to buy the DJM-800. That Tiesto uses one, and that it looks pretty, are not. Find out for yourself.

If you want an industry standard mixer, then look at Allen & Heath's Xone line, and Rane.

And, listen to everybody. As much as you haggle at Guitar Center, you'll still get a cheaper price online. And you won't have to pay tax. Spirit5 got his MK2s for more than www.agiprodj.com used to charge, plus he had to pay tax. Shipping is free, as well.

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