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Going to college... (short version at bottom)

...right now would probably be a bad decision on my part. At least this is what I was thinking until today. One of my friends just contacted me and told me about how crazy it was. I've been told by some: "Fuck the classes, it's not about that.. it's about independendence." People in my life REALLY want me to go, and it's pissing me off. I don't want to go right now, but I haven't told anyone.

See, I am interested in programming and math. I'm not good with the words, but I get the numbers. I'd like to learn what I can on my own (not everything), then go to college when I'm good and ready.

At 18 years, what i'm going to do is:
Get my driver's
Get a Job for a while
Improve and brush up on certain things in my free time
Straighten out various issues in my life, instead of just leaving it all behind like a sucker.

THEN go to college. My mother thinks that all kids should go straight to college as soon as they finish high school. I think that is bullshit, and would actually be counterproductive for me. I do not want to fucking take remedial courses, I want to go to college strictly for the CREDENTIALS (when I need them). Maybe I'll go for some extra things, but I do not feel like I'd do good if I went now.

Is this a bad idea or not? Because I'm struggling to come to a conclusion.


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What's wrong with learning things in my leisure, while having a job.. then going to college for the degree so I can get a better job later?

I asked a similar question in the cor about a year ago. Actually I think I asked whether or not I should go to college at all, but either way, all I have to say is that its up to you. If you arent going to try hard in your classes, there's no point in going to college yet, since you'll only end up fucking yourself.

See, the problem with this plan is that a lot of people end up doing absolutely nothing with the time they have off. Basically a lot of the people who I know that did what you wanna do ended up getting shitty jobs, worked only a couple days a week, and spent the rest of the week drinking beer and doing nothing. Anyone can agree that doing exactly that would be fuckin awesome, but this is not the time in your life that you should be lazy.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, if you really believe that you would actually use this year off to benefit yourself, then go for it. Just make sure you actually make use of that time.

Nothing wrong with that, but once you get used to working and what not, earning good dough and all that, you will lose that habit of studying...

However, don't be fooled that just because you think you're good with numbers it will mean you're gonna love working as a computer scientist for instance.. You should seek for counceling first as to what sort of things you'll be doing if you choose a certain career. If that's exactly what you want to learn by working first and then going to college later, go ahead, but don't take too long making up your mind because it's hard to recover the habits of studying and reading... I know so because I earned my degree almost 3 years ago and it's been a real pain to regain that energy and desire to study so I can pursue the masters program...

Believe me, lots of people say college is the best time of our lifes, but when you're earning lots of money and don't have to worry about exams or studying, and you can do pretty much whatever you want, you'll understand my point as to why college isn't exactly the best time but actually what comes after college...

College is like really expensive rehab. Except people are happy you go and you usually pick up a plethora of bad habits.

If you know what you want to do, experience is worth more than education.

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Originally posted by josh4 This topic comes up every once in a while so you should do a search to find the other threads, plenty of advice & experience has been given on it.

Will do. However I will leave this thread open for anyone who cares to reply.

Thanks for the advice guys.

Whatever one keeps you from coming on here the most.

Re: Going to college... (short version at bottom)

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Originally posted by Akridrot What's wrong with learning things in my leisure, while having a job.. then going to college for the degree so I can get a better job later?

the system is what's wrong with it... in a world where it's not what you know, but what some guy says (via a degree) you know...

1 day of college down.



Seems like a good time so far.


Come for frosh week, then drop all ur classes before the deadline so u dont have to pay.

It'd be a great time

you could do the same thing that nou did. . . fail at life?

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Originally posted by enferno you could do the same thing that nou did. . . fail at life?

and then say everyone else fails for not failing.

Re: Going to college... (short version at bottom)

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Originally posted by Akridrot ...right now would probably be a bad decision on my part. At least this is what I was thinking until today. One of my friends just contacted me and told me about how crazy it was. I've been told by some: "Fuck the classes, it's not about that.. it's about independendence." People in my life REALLY want me to go, and it's pissing me off. I don't want to go right now, but I haven't told anyone. See, I am interested in programming and math. I'm not good with the words, but I get the numbers. I'd like to learn what I can on my own (not everything), then go to college when I'm good and ready. At 18 years, what i'm going to do is: Get my driver's Get a Job for a while Improve and brush up on certain things in my free time Straighten out various issues in my life, instead of just leaving it all behind like a sucker. THEN go to college. My mother thinks that all kids should go straight to college as soon as they finish high school. I think that is bullshit, and would actually be counterproductive for me. I do not want to fucking take remedial courses, I want to go to college strictly for the CREDENTIALS (when I need them). Maybe I'll go for some extra things, but I do not feel like I'd do good if I went now. Is this a bad idea or not? Because I'm struggling to come to a conclusion. SHORT VERSION: What's wrong with learning things in my leisure, while having a job.. then going to college for the degree so I can get a better job later?

honestly there is no easy way out, and a education will help you get there faster and a better chance than none!

I currently work and study, i still make time for learning and even partying. just about getting your priorties straight and scheduling yourself.

After working 7 yrs in 3 diffrent corporations, i can tell you that a education is TOTALLY WORTH IT!

It depends what kind of job you have now and how marketable that job is after college when you're looking for the job you want. If it sells than great. If not than it's worthless. FFS why would you put on your resume your experience at the "Thompson Boat Center" and how is that applicable in any way to a position you're seeking as an analyst even though it has no relation to your degree in Finance (not directed at you, but you get the idea)?

Why can't you:

Get my driver's
and
Improve and brush up on certain things in my free time
and
Straighten out various issues in my life, instead of just leaving it all behind like a sucker.

while you're in college? I mean come on now, 50% of college is coming up with new and innovative ways to drink alcohol. What's important is that college sells while doing some random bs job usually does not. If you've got a better long run idea than college than go for it, but it sounds like you're just confused, in which case I would defer to a safe bet.

i think to have a year off could be a good experience if u use the time u'll get to do interesting things ....to work even if u have a job can be an experience ...to go travel abroad as well

maybe im wrong but it seems like in sweden after high school students usually take 1 year off to travel before to start university

it depends on people ...but if u dont feel like going to school now u shouldnt go unless the movitation comes later in years because if u dont feel like studying hard and passing your classes ...i dont think it will work ...i dont think being forced is the best way to achieve goals ....maybe u need some time !

good luck

hmm .
i'd say take one year off.
look around for jobs to find out what you really really want to do and can see yourself doing for the next 10 to 20 years, then head to coll.

or.

take one year off, move out of home, get a job, pay for your own shit.
then figure out if college is worth it or not.

I have had similar internal struggles myself!

College rocks, just go you lazy bum.

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Originally posted by Protege College rocks, just go you lazy bum.

it's not about being lazy ...i have so many examples around me of people who like me after high school went to university but most of them didnt have a clear plans of what to do and the motivation wasnt there...so they spent their time partying every nite and finally failed .....

most of them after 1 or 2 years like that managed to find what they really wanted to do ...what they were interested in and now it works perfectly for them !i guess 1 year off for them would have been better than going to uni because to see that u fail when the others pass isnt that great for the confidence

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Originally posted by Nou Wait, seriously, how have I failed at life? I dropped out of high school and got a job most people do 4 years of CSE to get? How is that fail, thats win in my book.

ok, we ALL KNOW, u got the fucking job.

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Originally posted by CranberryJuice it's not about being lazy ...i have so many examples around me of people who like me after high school went to university but most of them didnt have a clear plans of what to do and the motivation wasnt there...so they spent their time partying every nite and finally failed ..... most of them after 1 or 2 years like that managed to find what they really wanted to do ...what they were interested in and now it works perfectly for them !i guess 1 year off for them would have been better than going to uni because to see that u fail when the others pass isnt that great for the confidence

Yeah, a lot of people dont know what they want to do after high school but I think at least you should go to a junior college to start getting your general ed. classes. It doesnt matter what you major in, everyone has to take the basic math, english, science classes. And maybe after being around for a year or so and seeing what classes there are, you might figure out what you want to major in. And unless you are lucky and find a well paying job that doesnt require a college degree, going to college is something you have to do.

I think thats more constructive and viable than taking a year off from school. Oh and most people dont even go on to work in the field of their degree.

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Originally posted by Nou Wait, seriously, how have I failed at life? I dropped out of high school and got a job most people do 4 years of CSE to get? How is that fail, thats win in my book.

what if you get fired? you have nothing to fall back on.

i've heard that college really pays off. BUT it depends on what kind of job you want. college isn't for everbody.

i asked somebody about this and they broke it down like this:

college degree: will get you an interview and the time of day
m.b.a: interview AND more likely to get the job.

i'm actually in my last year of college right now ad i wasn't sure if i was going to get an m.b.a, but i guess i will take that risk of getting it.

Re: Going to college... (short version at bottom)

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Originally posted by Akridrot SHORT VERSION: What's wrong with learning things in my leisure, while having a job.. then going to college for the degree so I can get a better job later?

I took a year off from school after hs....and by the end of that year I was dying to be in class again.
But for others, they fall out of that "studying" mode and taking a year off can be detramental.

You have to be happy, not feel forced into doing something because that's what everyone wants you to do. You may be miserable in the end and it might show in your grades.

Go when you're ready.

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