TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Canada - Toronto & Southern Ont.
-- TO STAR: Stores may have to crank it down (*warning* annoying news ahead!!)
Pages (2): [1] 2 »
TO STAR: Stores may have to crank it down (*warning* annoying news ahead!!)
i'm suprised that jayx1 hasn't posted this one up yet, but i guess he's been away lately.
i think this latest proposal is rediculous. i mean seriously it seems like City Council is riding the slipery slope of the club noise complaints issue. where do you draw the line?
sometimes you really have to wonder what Toronto City Council really does for its people? They seem more concerned about finding things that you can't do, rather than helping to create things that you CAN do. don't these people have better things to do with their time? honestly there have got to be more pressing issues on the priority list right now. i'm sorry but i just found this last piece of news to be pretty irritating.
soon Toronto will be known as the quietest city on earth.
quote:
Stores may have to crank it down
City committee wants music restricted
Urges hiring of 4 enforcement officers
Sep. 6, 2006. 05:37 AM
VANESSA LU
CITY HALL BUREAU CHIEF
If the music or noise from a patio or business is loud enough to be heard on the street, the City of Toronto might soon be issuing fines.
Under a proposed ban, if sound coming from a loudspeaker or stereo can be heard on streets or in public places, it would violate the noise bylaw.
To ensure compliance, the plan � which was approved yesterday by the planning and transportation committee � calls for the hiring of four full-time enforcement officers. The budget for the officers, plus administrative costs, is estimated at $340,000 next year.
"Historically, the City of Toronto did not allow loudspeakers, but we did look the other way if it wasn't too loud," said Councillor Kyle Rae (Ward 27, Toronto Centre-Rosedale).
"But there are problems. Staff will crank up the music when the owners are away," he said. "Neighbours are just fed up with it. There has to be a balance."
In addition, Rae said businesses have been increasingly using loudspeakers to lure shoppers inside � a constant din that can be irritating for passersby.
Business owners on Yonge St., where numerous stores use such loudspeakers, weren't impressed, and they almost unanimously condemned the plan as another hare-brained idea out of city hall.
The noise isn't terribly loud. But it's not just the mom-and-pop stores that use music; even the big players on the street, like Sears, the Bay and HMV, play music that can clearly be heard along the sidewalk through speakers.
"They (city hall) should worry about other stuff," said Erwin Calderon, manager of Champs Sports near Dundas St.
Calderon said nobody has ever complained about the music, which helps attract customers.
Harsher criticism came from Maureen Wright, owner of the Leather Ranch, one of the oldest retail stores on Yonge St.
"I'm sorry, but there are higher priorities than this," Wright said, describing how the rock music she plays often makes passersby dance or sing.
Music blaring on the street was a trademark of Yonge St. in the 1970s and '80s, she added.
But how the bylaw could be enforced is anybody's guess. At the corner of Yonge and Dundas, the music from Sears collided with music from a T-Shirt seller and the boom box of sidewalk chalk artist Dave Johnston.
As the 36-year-old took a break from his drawings of superheroes, he described the planned bylaw as "trippy."
"This is a city of two million people. There's going to be noise," he said. "If you don't like it, move to some place quiet like Ottawa."
This move comes after growing complaints from residents about noise, especially coming from nightclubs and restaurants late at night.
Under the proposed bylaw, which goes before city council for approval later this month, an enforcement officer walking by and hearing loud music or noise would be able to issue a ticket.
Currently, complainants are required to testify on the impact of the noise and that they were disturbed.
Frank Weinstock, manager of the policy and business planning unit for the city's municipal licensing and standards department, said it shouldn't be difficult for officers to ticket violators.
"If officers are out there and hear it, they can deal with it," Weinstock said. "If you're standing on the street and you hear it, that's all you need."
The city defines loudspeaker or amplified sound to include sounds from CD players, stereos, radios and even people making announcements.
Although the committee voted yesterday in favour of the loudspeaker ban, it refused to extend throughout the city a restriction on construction noise on Sundays and holidays that applies only to low-rise residential areas.
Councillor Howard Moscoe (Ward 15, Eglinton-Lawrence) said he was disappointed that the committee would discriminate against those who live in highrise neighbourhoods.
City staff said extending the ban could have a negative economic impact, creating delays in completing projects and raising the cost of building.
source:
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...id=968332188492
how often do you hear about the City being cash strapped when it comes to funding public works or maybe the TTC. yet they can somehow find $340,000 a year for 4 noise enforcement officers??
Honestly, I think there's something seriously wrong with the citizens of Toronto - I caught the following article in the GTA section of The Star over the weekend:
| quote: |
Monkeying around Sep. 5, 2006. 01:00 AM JACK LAKEY STAFF REPORTER  "He was lucky to be a monkey: out he walked on to the telephone wires. Quickly and quietly over the guard's head, George walked away. He was free!" � From the 1941 children's book Curious George There's monkey business afoot on the utility lines along Cambridge Ave., and it's driving one homeowner bananas. Fuzzy primates have colonized the wires above Cambridge, near Broadview and Danforth Aves., swinging hand over foot between the poles and dangling by their tails. They're not zoo escapees; these stuffed toy monkeys are living the high life thanks to a mischievous resident who's given them a hand up. It is hard not to be amused by the spectacle of monkeys overhead, until we were called by a woman who lives on Cambridge wanting to know who to call to get rid of four monkeys in front of her house. She says she called Toronto Hydro but was told it didn't own the wires. She tried Bell Canada but says somebody told her she'd have to pay $75 to have the problem checked out. "I'm concerned about these bloody monkeys," said the woman, who asked not to be named. "Who do you call to get rid of monkeys on wires?" The only call she made that prompted a response was to Toronto police, who had no authority to order the monkeys down but succeeded at moving them along. We spotted eight stuffed monkeys on the wires north of Pretoria Ave., suspended in front of several addresses by their arms, legs and tails. Before she started calling around for help, the woman said she took matters into her own hands and tried to coax them down herself, using long pruning shears. "My intention, of course, was to clip their arms so they'd fall down, but I was too short to reach them," she explained. "When I told Hydro, they lectured me about how dangerous it was." The woman identified the culprit as John Turner, a neighbour down the street. Turner gleefully confessed, saying the gag started last year when he hung a toy monkey on the wires in front of his house. It caused such a stir on the street that he began collecting them, and has been assisting them in their ascent ever since. The monkeys are meant only to make people laugh, he said. When police arrived at his door last week, responding to the woman's call, he said they asked him if he'd at least move them further down the wires, so they'd no longer be in front of her house. "I asked if they could be patient until after dark," Turner said. "The monkeys only move around at night." |
lol 
this city really blows me away sometimes
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Honestly, I think there's something seriously wrong with the citizens of Toronto - I caught the following article in the GTA section of The Star over the weekend: Does it really bother her THAT much that she calls Hydro One, the Police and finally the newspaper???? |
Pathetic.
Excuse the language but FUCKING HELL!!!
Please, get a life!
I have a sudden urge to walk around with a ghettoblaster cranked up whilst shimmying up poles and hanging stuffed monkeys from wires by their tales.
Ontario has a culture of gratifying whiners.
| quote: |
| "I asked if they could be patient until after dark," Turner said. "The monkeys only move around at night." |
wtf is this motherfucking shit?
are you kidding me?
GRRR
you know the minute they get rid of the EDM scene in Toronto. I'm leaving to go to another part of canada. fuck this shit. this is suppose to be a CITY.
Don't they care about their tourism?
thank goodness i never chose that hospitality program @ GBC
telling you.. from these 2 stories above, that anyone who complains in this city gets their way
| quote: |
| Originally posted by dEsidEL telling you.. from these 2 stories above, that anyone who complains in this city gets their way |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Halycon Perhaps we should start complaining about the rising number of complainers in this city.... |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Halycon Perhaps we should start complaining about the rising number of complainers in this city.... |
What about all the bastards that have complained enought to have ball hockey banned from their streets?
Ball hockey? This is Canada! Ball hockey is a given...
maybe a protest rave @ NPS
The only problem with us complaining about complainers, is that they'll complain about us complaining about them. And they're much better at complaining than we are. It's a lose-lose situation.
This is the exact type of shit that JayX1 has been trying to get through TranceAddict's heads for years. Now he's gone, and you all finally catch on? This city really IS hopeless.
City council currently has huge problems with traffic, trash, crime, homelessness, etc. And they focus on music from loudspeakers from stores in DOWNTOWN?
NDP and Miller FTW!
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Spam This is the exact type of shit that JayX1 has been trying to get through TranceAddict's heads for years. Now he's gone, and you all finally catch on? This city really IS hopeless. City council currently has huge problems with traffic, trash, crime, homelessness, etc. And they focus on music from loudspeakers from stores in DOWNTOWN? NDP and Miller FTW! |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by EvilTree Ontario has a culture of gratifying whiners. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by zokissima I'm with you on that one. IMO, it seems that this city is more and more catering to retirees and the socially maladjusted. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Spam This is the exact type of shit that JayX1 has been trying to get through TranceAddict's heads for years. Now he's gone, and you all finally catch on? This city really IS hopeless. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by dEsidEL telling you.. from these 2 stories above, that anyone who complains in this city gets their way |
| quote: |
| Toronto police, who had no authority to order the monkeys down but succeeded at moving them along. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Halycon Perhaps we should start complaining about the rising number of complainers in this city.... |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Spam City council currently has huge problems with traffic, trash, crime, homelessness, etc. And they focus on music from loudspeakers from stores in DOWNTOWN? |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by E2EK1EL you've been bitchin about To for almost 3 yrs, and yet you haven't gotten shit lol |
wow... a big ROLL EYES to that story (and the the bitch with no sense of humor)
Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.