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Liquor-License Freeze for NYC

Times article:

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September 7, 2006 Liquor-License Freeze Enacted in N.Y. By ANTHONY RAMIREZ The state liquor board yesterday imposed an immediate four-month freeze on approving liquor licenses for areas of New York City that already have three or more license holders within 500 feet of each other. The unanimous action by the New York State Liquor Authority, which was immediately denounced by a trade group of city nightclubs, follows the deaths this year of two young women. They were killed after drinking heavily at nightspots in SoHo and Chelsea. Robert Bookman, a lawyer for the New York Nightlife Association, a trade group of 125 bars and nightclubs, mainly in Manhattan, said the action was unfair. It has �thrown the industry into chaos within the last few hours,� he said. Mr. Bookman added, �If I have my lifetime savings wrapped up in a place that I�m prepared to open Oct. 1 and now I can�t get a license until January, how am I going to pay $30,000 in monthly rent and not be able to open?� By contrast, Scott Wexler, executive director of the Empire State Restaurant and Tavern Association, with 5,000 members statewide, called the state action �judicious and measured.� Last month, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg signed legislation that made it easier for the city to shut down establishments that fail to conduct background checks of security workers. In February, Imette St. Guillen, 24, of the Upper West Side, was killed after drinking heavily and leaving a SoHo bar called the Falls. A bouncer was charged with murdering her. In July, Jennifer Moore, 18, of Harrington Park, N.J., was killed after a night of heavy drinking at a nightclub called the Guest House in Chelsea. A man and a woman have been charged in her death. A public hearing on state liquor laws, the liquor board and underage drinking is scheduled for 10 a.m. today at 250 Broadway, Manhattan, in the State Senate Hearing Room, on the 19th floor. The liquor board�s order, effective immediately until Dec. 31, does not apply to restaurants, the board said, but to licenses for �bars, clubs and cabarets that are subject to the 500-foot rule.� It also applies to all pending applications, a spokesman said. It was not immediately known how many applications were awaiting review, but the board has looked at 14 cases involving the 500-foot rule so far this year. The 500-foot rule, which is usually applied in Manhattan, prohibits the issuance of full liquor licenses for establishments when there are already three or more such establishments within 500 feet of each other. There are exceptions to the rule, and critics have accused the board of leniency. �This moratorium,� said Daniel B. Boyle, the board�s chairman, �will give the S.L.A. time to thoroughly analyze the policies, procedures and applications that govern nightclubs and bars in N.Y.S.� The board also named a task force to review the board�s licensing policies, and instituted �Operation Last Call,� an enforcement effort focusing on �excessive noise; assaults and violent felonies; sales to minors and intoxicated patrons; drug offenses; and other violations of the law.�

That's just fucking absurd. I feel bad for anyone opening in the next few months.

Ugggghhhh...

damn that sux

I must be sleepy...at first glance it thought the thread said liquor freeze for NYC (completely ignoring the license part) and I was about ready for a panic to occur

i heard that they are thinking of closing bars at 3 am

don't know if this would include clubs too

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Originally posted by dcctnycprincess i heard that they are thinking of closing bars at 3 am don't know if this would include clubs too

clubs too because when they were talking about the story on the news they showed marquee and home

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Originally posted by chi6me8ra clubs too because when they were talking about the story on the news they showed marquee and home

Marquee and Home dont stay open like the after hour spots - Pacha, Crobar...

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Originally posted by dcctnycprincess i heard that they are thinking of closing bars at 3 am don't know if this would include clubs too

I heard that as well.... it would apply to any establishment selling alcohol.

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Originally posted by knittybone Marquee and Home dont stay open like the after hour spots - Pacha, Crobar...

well those were the clubs they showed on the news so i'm assuming it applies to clubs as well

I love the fact I never feel like I have to be at a place by a certain time, because they all close so damn late... this would really blow...

i like the idea of closing places that sell liquor at 3...

dont alot of clubs stop serving alcohol at like 4 anyway?

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 i like the idea of closing places that sell liquor at 3... dont alot of clubs stop serving alcohol at like 4 anyway?

What do you like about that idea?

you would think the politicians in Jersey would go after Hoboken like this

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Originally posted by knittybone I love the fact I never feel like I have to be at a place by a certain time, because they all close so damn late... this would really blow...

+1

Options are a major reason to live here over most other places in the country. Why can't we just follow Miami's lead with the 24 hour licenses? They've got like 6-8 clubs downtown (Space, Twilo, Nocturnal, etc) that cater to EDM crowds, meanwhile, here in fear mongering NYC, we're closing everything earlier (or entirely) in the name of safety. Maybe curfews is where we should go next.

i wonder what NYC would be like if bars and clubs are to close at 3. so much for the city that never sleeps....

oh wait we have grays papaya i forgot duh

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Originally posted by kid nyce i wonder what NYC would be like if bars and clubs are to close at 3.

it would be just like Jersey

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Originally posted by kid nyce i wonder what NYC would be like if bars and clubs are to close at 3. so much for the city that never sleeps.... oh wait we have grays papaya i forgot duh

I would stay away from being on the road after 3am at all cost. If bars and clubs stop serving alchohol at 3am and close at the same time, then a shit load of drunk ass morans would be getting into their cars and trying to drive home, because there wouldn't be anywhere else to go to sober up! Of course the city revenue would only rise from this new law because the NYPD will be having a field day with check points all over the city. I hate the greedy side of political New York brought on mostly by Bloomberg. If they were thinking of safety first for the public, then a consideration to keep bars and clubs open pass 3am or 4am would be allowed so that the public could sober up before leaving the establishment.

Rent over, I am out on this.

Welcome to Boston

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Originally posted by ReenTeenTeen Rent over, I am out on this.

love living in the city =)

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Originally posted by GUBostonDubs Welcome to Boston

Naw, it's more like welcoming NYC to the rest of USA. I guess A.C. would be left to be the only all nihgt legal drinking/ party city on NorthEast Coast.

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Originally posted by kid nyce love living in the city =)

...it gets old. it's fun and all for awhile but i prefer it better where I am now: ocean and the beach accross the street just for example.

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 i like the idea of closing places that sell liquor at 3... dont alot of clubs stop serving alcohol at like 4 anyway?

lee, go back to boston then lol

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Originally posted by ReenTeenTeen ...it gets old. it's fun and all for awhile but i prefer it better where I am now: ocean and the beach accross the street just for example.

if you gave me a ranch on side of a mountain i'd move yesterday

Does anyone know of the legalities of Private Social Clubs in manhattan? I am wondering if they are legal and if so can they serve alcohol longer than the standard shut off. After being in Utah, I can see this as a possible avenue too.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy +1 Options are a major reason to live here over most other places in the country. Why can't we just follow Miami's lead with the 24 hour licenses? They've got like 6-8 clubs downtown (Space, Twilo, Nocturnal, etc) that cater to EDM crowds, meanwhile, here in fear mongering NYC, we're closing everything earlier (or entirely) in the name of safety. Maybe curfews is where we should go next.

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Originally posted by avikonen Does anyone know of the legalities of Private Social Clubs in manhattan? I am wondering if they are legal and if so can they serve alcohol longer than the standard shut off. After being in Utah, I can see this as a possible avenue too.

avikonenonenonenonenonen...

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