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Posted by SPAWNmaster on Sep-07-2006 22:25:

anyone have a xone 3d?

and if so, did you win the lottery just before buying it?


Posted by punjabi on Sep-08-2006 00:37:

ask PvD


Posted by wizniz on Sep-08-2006 00:46:

lotteryhax


Posted by Max Thomson on Sep-08-2006 04:30:

http://www.abletonlivedj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1676


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Sep-08-2006 17:22:

i want one


Posted by wizniz on Sep-09-2006 00:11:

thatd be so dope


Posted by spolitta on Sep-09-2006 02:59:

Does anybody know how stable the latest driver is?


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Sep-09-2006 15:29:

from what it looks like they redid a lot of the coding on the soundcard but there's still some midi issues...they talk about it over at abletonlivedj.com


Posted by plaxx on Sep-09-2006 17:05:

i hope they combine the left and the right side, take out the middle, and sell that. I'd def get one.


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Sep-09-2006 18:54:

quote:
Originally posted by plaxx
i hope they combine the left and the right side, take out the middle, and sell that. I'd def get one.



i was just thinking that...its basically just a xone 92 with an awesome midi control interface. if they just made the interface seperate id pick it up and just use my regular mixer for my decks!


Posted by DJ_Progrezz on Sep-09-2006 21:10:

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
i was just thinking that...its basically just a xone 92 with an awesome midi control interface. if they just made the interface seperate id pick it up and just use my regular mixer for my decks!

it would probably cost you about 2500


Posted by Ryan0751 on Sep-10-2006 01:01:

I agree... I already have a 92, it's great, but I'd really like to keep it. The 3D has some oddities... headphone jack in the front, the lack of the 4 channel eq of the 92, etc. Oh, and my biggest gripe with it: No rotary option.

Also don't forget the 3D has a multi-channel soundcard built in.

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Progrezz
it would probably cost you about 2500


Posted by robtronik on Sep-10-2006 19:05:

I have one and use it at all my gigs now. At first I was all about the DJM-800 by pioneer, but the ease of use of the 3D vs. the need to bring a multi-out soundcard with the DJM was the deal maker. Also, I can record my sets back in through the sound card in the 3D as well as have 3 stereo outs (I use the 4th input/channel on the 3D for my drum machine) all through one USB cable! Plus the 3D, although bigger, is LIGHTER than the 800. Weird, but true.

The more I use it, the more I appreciate the way it is built now. I think the Xone:92 is the best traditional dj mixer ever made in my opinion. Used to own one, but the 3D, as a Live interface is amazing. I've been using it with Live 6 (beta) and the matching of these two beasts is pretty much unparalelled unless you own a Jazzmutant Lemur (but then there is no tactical interfacing with that. I like grabbing shit while I mix).

Here is a mix with the above set up that I just did at Compression this last Friday (opened for Kenny Larkin), so you can hear how it was used, etc.

Permanent Link:
http://djmixes.robtronik.com/Robtro...sion-9-8-06.mp3

192 Kbps/MP3 | 1 hour & 17 Minutes Long | 107 MB

I agree that there are some funky things with it still - like if you unplug your laptop from the mixer after using the soundcard portion, it causes the cue buttons to stop working - you have to turn the mixer on and off to reset it at that point, and also the front jack of the headphone is inconvienent... but I don't mind the 3 eq set up vs. the 4 eq set up. If you use the filters with the 3 eq set up (which go to zero DB, unlike the 92), then you can easily make up the difference. So, not a problem.

And the sound quality is top notch. This is a winner - although it is expensive. That's another problem, I guess.

rob.
http://www.robtronik.com


Posted by Prism on Nov-18-2006 16:22:

robtronik are you satisfied with your 3D? i went to my local store to try it out the thing looks ok at first those MIDI knobs are located way too close to each other! latency was fuckin bad worse than with other MIDI controllers i tried using with Live and the price?!?! 3000 CAD that's around 2700 US I had a good laugh at it, you could proabably get a djm-800 from Pioneer and firewire sound card and a midi controller like x-session and save yourself a load of money by not buying a 3D
one thing i didnt get why it costs a fortune i guess it's aimed at something like Paul van Dyk's wallet


Posted by robtronik on Nov-18-2006 16:47:

Very happy with it. I did exactly as you mentioned above first - had a DJM-800, Motu Ultralite soundcard, etc. But the Xone's audio quality is better, and there is nothing like showing up with a mixer, one USB cable and a laptop.

Too many freaking connections with the DJM solution.

as far as the knobs being too close together, I agree, but given the benefits of audio quality vs. cheaper price, I'm going with the better audio quality and deal with some of the knobs beeing too close to each other.



rob.


Posted by Prism on Nov-18-2006 17:20:

cheers for the reply Rob, for the sake of portability this thing wins over any MIDI mixer or out there I agree, it's great but it comes with great price I wouldnt consider it unless DJing was my full time job.
I read very few over @ abletonlivedj/forum got it... 2 lads actually tried and returned it back
Your very lucky not only to own one but also be comfortable with it despite its issues etcs


Posted by on Nov-19-2006 12:01:

I don't have one.. but I saw it finally IN PERSON today at the local shop (where I still ended up spending about $700 today).. Its pretty damn sexy looking.. but I would never use it to its full potential... Hell the Nuo4 has more than enough MIDI control for me, and I haven't properly put it to full use..


Posted by Inertia on Nov-19-2006 19:25:

friend has it. i've spun on it about 15-20 times. as JUST the mixer, i love it. i kind of like the 3band over the 4band for some reason.

for ableton, i have not gotten the chance (my friend couldn't afford the laptop, so he uses it with his desktop, and i've only been at his place like twice) but i understand that should you really sit down and set your shit up correctly, it'll work.

not to mention, i saw Pascal F.E.O.S. DESTROY using one last night. 2x CDJs, Xone:3D, Live 6, and some weird effects box i hadn't seen before. he didn't seem to have any issues whatsoever with it.


Posted by jupiterone on Nov-20-2006 00:15:

<---treating myself to one this christmas


Posted by Polt on Nov-20-2006 01:38:

I have heard many reports saying that the Xone:3d is bad. However, most of those reports were from the first month or so that it was out. I have heard that A&H have made some changes to it that improve its value and functionality. I don't know if this is true or not, but it does seem like more people are adopting the mixer now than before.


Posted by Prism on Nov-20-2006 02:28:

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
<---treating myself to one this christmas


bastard!! how long have you been saving for??
for me it's quite unrealistic even if I sell my DJM-800 I'd hardly have even half cost of 3D I'd have to save up for months to collect enough to buy one


Posted by nrjizer on Nov-21-2006 04:06:

I've been looking into the Xone 3D lately, and more and more I'm starting to want one.

My biggest question is this: will the MIDI clock lock into the beat of a channel automatically, and then slave Ableton to that tempo? Meaning, if I'm playing a track on vinyl or CDJ, will the Xone pick up it's tempo and sync clips in Ableton to it?

Also, it only needs to connect to a computer via USB, correct?


Posted by Prism on Nov-21-2006 04:21:

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
I've been looking into the Xone 3D lately, and more and more I'm starting to want one.

My biggest question is this: will the MIDI clock lock into the beat of a channel automatically, and then slave Ableton to that tempo? Meaning, if I'm playing a track on vinyl or CDJ, will the Xone pick up it's tempo and sync clips in Ableton to it?

Also, it only needs to connect to a computer via USB, correct?


I am dying to get one myself looks more appealing to me with each day,,
All you need is connect it thru USB and your set, that's how a MIDI clock works you got it spot on.


Posted by nrjizer on Nov-22-2006 01:49:

Rob, have you had any major problems with yours? I keep hearing about buttons failing, things crashing, mixer won't even turn on, etc.


Posted by Prism on Nov-22-2006 02:18:

judging by reviews on various sites, abletonlivedj.com etc I read a few negative reviews before the software update had come out for the mixer, the update promises to have had fixed some minor issues then I never heard from these people again, on the other hand other 3D users are extremely happy with it.


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