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Posted by Akia on Sep-08-2006 19:01:

PhilB & Akia - Knight of Dark (vocal - final version)

Hey!

We need help with this! It is PhilB`s first vocal song so any suggestion on how to make it sounds better would appreciates very mutch! PhilB has produced everything and I have written the lyrics and singing it.



****Final version****

http://philb.jamura-music.com/audio/Knight_of_Dark.mp3


Thank you so mutch for your advices, suggestions and kind words, that has helped us a lot!


Akia & PhilB


Posted by Rinster on Sep-08-2006 19:14:

nice tune, nice vocals, nice voice, i liked it

any chance you could maybe post the lyrics?

thanks,

Bidor


Posted by Lindo on Sep-08-2006 19:15:

Listening now...

I like the track for the most part. Percussion is pretty sweet. I'm not really a fan of the bassline. Doesn't fit in my mind. The vocals need some tuning with autotune or something and they're also too loud in the mix. I think the track needs some filtering or something to give it a techy side or something. A pretty decent track, but could use some more work. Nice job though


Posted by Akia on Sep-08-2006 19:24:

Thank you guys! Here comes the lyrics:


Knight of Dark

You come with the North
you Knight of Dark
to catch a broken soul
you collect your cards.
Hunting in the moonshine
a shadow on the path
get scent of a hidden sore
nothin fails your sense.

Closen eyes
I can not see
I�m not an angel
and I will never be.
Give me love
fill my emptyness
a second in my life
and you own me at rest.

I just want to feel.
I just want to feel.
I just want to feel.

You come with the North
you Knight of Dark
to catch a broken soul
you collect your cards.
Waiting in the moonshine
I can hear your breath
creeping tight around
feel a heat in my chest.

A flame in the night.


Posted by Rinster on Sep-08-2006 19:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Akia
Thank you guys! Here comes the lyrics:


Knight of Dark

You come with the North
you Knight of Dark
to catch a broken soul
you collect your cards.
Hunting in the moonshine
a shadow on the path
get scent of a hidden sore
nothin fails your sense.

Closen eyes
I can not see
I�m not an angel
and I will never be.
Give me love
fill my emptyness
a second in my life
and you own me at rest.

I just want to feel.
I just want to feel.
I just want to feel.

You come with the North
you Knight of Dark
to catch a broken soul
you collect your cards.
Waiting in the moonshine
I can hear your breth
creeping tight around
feel a heat in my chest.

A flame in the night.


nice lyrics.. now i heard you singing... but i would really like to hear some productions of yours!


Posted by Akia on Sep-08-2006 19:30:

No, you wont !


Posted by Rinster on Sep-08-2006 19:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Akia
No, you want !


?


Posted by Akia on Sep-08-2006 19:34:

Belive me, there is a reason why I not produce...


Posted by Rinster on Sep-08-2006 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Akia
Belive me, there is a reason why I not produce...


why not? im sure your productions arent that bad!


Posted by Akia on Sep-08-2006 19:43:

Haven�t produce anything att all, have no talent for that. I�m just a writer.


Posted by Rinster on Sep-08-2006 19:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Akia
Haven�t produce anything att all, have no talent for that. I�m just a writer.


everyone isnt good in the beginning.. even dj's like tiesto, pvd, sasha etc.. why not try and play with some programs and see how good you really are in producing?!


Posted by RickyM on Sep-08-2006 21:14:

Re: Montalray & Akia - Vocal trance (unfinish)

quote:
Originally posted by Akia
Hey!

We need help with this! It is Montalrays` first vocal track so any suggestion on how to make it sounds better would appreciates very mutch! Montalrat has produced everything and I have written the lyrics and singing it.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.p...47809F96E008D4A


Thanks!

Akia


Hey Akia

I'll have a listen to this tommorrow, my connection is giving me shit at the minute, so downloading it now would be perilous
So I'll review tommorrow.


Posted by Akia on Sep-08-2006 23:22:

Thank you bidor to believe in me maybe I will try that when I get a fater computer.


That would be nice Ricky, maybe you can hear wat�s wrong with the vocal/mix.


Posted by [nxx] on Sep-09-2006 18:38:

8) hi akia. really nice track. the vocal is very nice. nice to hear your vocal. it shines through the track nicely. the pace and tone of the vocal and the bpm of the track looks fine to me too and fits nicely. nice mellow floating synths throughout the track.


Posted by Akia on Sep-09-2006 18:42:

Thank you [nxx] it means a lot!


Posted by [nxx] on Sep-09-2006 19:07:

8) hi akia. sure. oh and the lyrics are nice too by the way


Posted by kopi_luwak on Sep-09-2006 22:13:

Hey,
I think you need to quantize the voice, it sounds a bit out of synch, now the reverb, let me tell you that to do the mixdown in vocals is the hell, a tip for Phil B, the reverb with vocals, it has way too much reverb, put down all the high cut on the reverb, will allow u to have alot of decay and keep that dreamy air but without all that nasty reflection, also a half delay is important, almost all vocals in EDM are done with this kind of reverb, the vocals need some better compression and to be mixed better, right now the vocals and the song sound like two diferent things when they should be only one.
I would mix better the vocals into the mix, the reverb tips I told u to avoid all matters I pointed u out, better compression, and alot of pacience, I know how it feels to begin to play with vocals and is very exiting but it's one of the most complicated things in music production imo so I sugest you Phil to read all the tutorials u can about compressing tutorials, because compression is very important for vocals.
In overall, this tune is going in the right direction, it only needs some time to mature .
Good luck guys .
Kopi =o.


Posted by Akia on Sep-10-2006 08:38:

[nxx]:

kopi: Thank you so mutch for this review! Really helpful!


Posted by BOOsTER on Sep-10-2006 09:04:

what kopi said is pretty helpful, what I would do, is chopping the vocals to small phrases and then beatmatch each one of them

Ableton is teh shit for this!

one more thing I liked the tune very much


Posted by PhilB on Sep-10-2006 15:36:

quote:
Originally posted by kopi_luwak
Hey,
I think you need to quantize the voice, it sounds a bit out of synch, now the reverb, let me tell you that to do the mixdown in vocals is the hell, a tip for Phil B, the reverb with vocals, it has way too much reverb, put down all the high cut on the reverb, will allow u to have alot of decay and keep that dreamy air but without all that nasty reflection, also a half delay is important, almost all vocals in EDM are done with this kind of reverb, the vocals need some better compression and to be mixed better, right now the vocals and the song sound like two diferent things when they should be only one.
I would mix better the vocals into the mix, the reverb tips I told u to avoid all matters I pointed u out, better compression, and alot of pacience, I know how it feels to begin to play with vocals and is very exiting but it's one of the most complicated things in music production imo so I sugest you Phil to read all the tutorials u can about compressing tutorials, because compression is very important for vocals.
In overall, this tune is going in the right direction, it only needs some time to mature .
Good luck guys .
Kopi =o.

Thanks for the advices (everyone) I ll take care of that (next weekend) and i ll change the bassline, cause it really seems to be not that well lol
Ciao Phil


Posted by Drik on Sep-10-2006 15:39:

I have to agree with Kopi, who's advice was spot on.
Also, try doing some small pitch work on the vocals, it's pretty impossible to sing exactly right, and since trance is always spot on compared to other genres like rock (where differences is just cool) this part is important to make sure it's 100% perfect.
Check the application celemony melodyne to do those small tweaks in pitch and placement so it all fits great, I do this myself on every singer I work with, so I'm not saying you're bad or anything Akia, this is just something that always needs to be done, regardless of singer.

Lycka till!


Posted by sterilis on Sep-10-2006 15:53:

sounds nice but as mentioned the vocals seem out of place.

didnt really have a problem with the bass would probably have just made it fatter.

also there is no real synth presence. i can hear pads and some some synth sounds but you need a synth that really pulls you in. maybe a plucky sound would work well.

i really like the kick and percs. nice job on them.

good track to listen to also.

keep it up.


Posted by Akia on Sep-10-2006 16:10:

Tack Fredrik! I�m not a singer, not at all! So your advices appreciates!

Thank you dj_kane! We will work on it!


Posted by richg101 on Sep-10-2006 16:11:

nice percs and clean kick with some power to it. bass is really lacking. add another lower bass playing the same notes as what your bass synth is doing.

vocals - these lack the highs the rest of the track has. they sound like you have a high cut on them. personally i think the mix sounds alright. the vocals have a big mid bass presence to me. tone down the 300-700 hz in the vocals by about 3db.

vocal reverb - too much. i would take away the reverb a lot and rely on your delay. make one of your percs more reverbarated in the same setting as the vocal. so they interlink.

overall mix wise i think the levels sound ok. with a tone down of the 300-750hz region of vocals and a tone down of the reverb a lot the vocals will sound more in place. i would turn up your synths in the mix a bit more as well as some of your percs up a little.

i think the vocals are synched very well imo. no problems there.

good work


Posted by Snowave on Sep-10-2006 17:48:

Re: PhilB & Akia - Vocal trance (unfinished)

quote:
Originally posted by Akia
Hey!

We need help with this! It is PhilB`s first vocal song so any suggestion on how to make it sounds better would appreciates very mutch! PhilB has produced everything and I have written the lyrics and singing it.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.p...47809F96E008D4A


Thanks!

Akia


Nice! what could i say it seems that you becomes more far than i ll do. Mayby you might have contract before i have. Like the vocals. But i would like to do my own version on the track. But i might guess the vocals is not for share. This is a sound for its own. I rather mayby leave the track as it is. It seems that you have thinkin when you wrote this text, it have its purpose.



Snowave


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