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Posted by YuVaL on Mar-11-2002 19:02:

Denon dp-dj151 TT, What do u think of it

hi all.. im gettin my equipment soon (vestax pcv 275 mixer, & 2 pioneer cdj100s) and i thought maybe i'd get one tt to go with my equipment

so my good friend scorchio showed me this tt:



what do u ppl think of it, is it worth buying??

greetz
yuval


Posted by Great Outdoors on Mar-12-2002 10:57:

Hi DJ-Energy, I own the DP DJ-101s (the same as the 151s except for the digital output function), and I love them. The startup torque is amazing (although not as good as the Techs) and they have not failed me since I bought them. Very good decision!


Posted by oDrori on Mar-12-2002 11:21:

I got to spin on the DP 101 AND IMO they are really bad...
But if Great Outdoors owns them adn says he likes maybe you should try...

The thing I hate about them is they have quite a weak motor and the one I spun had this shaky needle...

Anyways, Yuval, whatever you take, it would be a must to have at least vinyl with so you can practice!!!

Good luck!


Posted by YuVaL on Mar-12-2002 12:10:

Anyone else has comments on this TT

for now its 1:1...


Posted by Great Outdoors on Mar-12-2002 13:06:

The shakey needle (tonearm, you mean?) is probably due to the fact that you didn't set the counterweight correctly; I set it to 2.5 and it works perfect.
The torque motor isn't so bad IMO, the specifications say that the startup torque measures at 2.2kgf/cm (which isn't too far away from Tech's specs) and having spun on both the 101s and the Tech 1200s, I must say that I don't notice that much a difference..
You can download the specifications manual here
http://denon.jp/europe/pdf/DPDJ101.pdf

Does that make it 2:1?


Posted by YuVaL on Mar-12-2002 13:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Great Outdoors
The shakey needle (tonearm, you mean?) is probably due to the fact that you didn't set the counterweight correctly; I set it to 2.5 and it works perfect.
The torque motor isn't so bad IMO, the specifications say that the startup torque measures at 2.2kgf/cm (which isn't too far away from Tech's specs) and having spun on both the 101s and the Tech 1200s, I must say that I don't notice that much a difference..
You can download the specifications manual here
http://denon.jp/europe/pdf/DPDJ101.pdf

Does that make it 2:1?


guess it does


yay 4 us


Posted by Great Outdoors on Mar-14-2002 12:28:

Sheeshz, noone seems to know too much about these TTs.


Posted by YuVaL on Mar-14-2002 13:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Great Outdoors
Sheeshz, noone seems to know too much about these TTs.


ya i know!!!


its a shame.. looks like a really nice TT

i have a question

why does it say DIGITAL?

whats digital about it?


Posted by Scorchio on Mar-14-2002 15:09:

The whole pitch concept is digital which makes it more accurate, and the whole mechanisem inside is digital.


Posted by Great Outdoors on Mar-14-2002 16:56:

I'm not so sure about the pitching, but I think it's because on the 151's you can digitally output the music into something directly; like an MD or something, no need to hook it up to the mixer. You can't do that on the 101's (it says PHONO on the 101's). The 151's don't need earthing, which is a huge turn-on.


Posted by YuVaL on Mar-14-2002 22:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Great Outdoors
I'm not so sure about the pitching, but I think it's because on the 151's you can digitally output the music into something directly; like an MD or something, no need to hook it up to the mixer. You can't do that on the 101's (it says PHONO on the 101's). The 151's don't need earthing, which is a huge turn-on.


Earthing??


Posted by Great Outdoors on Mar-15-2002 06:28:

For conventional TTs you will have to earth the connections either to your amp or to your mixer; the earthing connectors will normally come together with your RCA (red and white) cables. The 151's won't need them, so output quality will be enhanced.


Posted by oDrori on Mar-15-2002 14:54:

Another thing with Denon that's especially important if it's your first ever TT:

It has a pitch 12% instead of the common 8% so be REALLY careful once you get to the part where the pitch is almost accurate and you have to give it small pushes of 0.1 0.2 pitch changes...
So small pushes on the 8% pitch become r-e-a-h-h-h-l-y small pushes on the 12% pitch... beware


Posted by YuVaL on Mar-15-2002 17:11:

quote:
Originally posted by oDrori
Another thing with Denon that's especially important if it's your first ever TT:

It has a pitch 12% instead of the common 8% so be REALLY careful once you get to the part where the pitch is almost accurate and you have to give it small pushes of 0.1 0.2 pitch changes...
So small pushes on the 8% pitch become r-e-a-h-h-h-l-y small pushes on the 12% pitch... beware


i understand
thanks m8


Posted by Great Outdoors on Mar-15-2002 18:15:

I agree with oDrori here. Having fiddled on both the Techs and the Denons (which I own), I must say that this is one thing that I hate about my Denons; one small push and you're a million beats away.


Posted by YuVaL on Mar-16-2002 12:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Great Outdoors
I agree with oDrori here. Having fiddled on both the Techs and the Denons (which I own), I must say that this is one thing that I hate about my Denons; one small push and you're a million beats away.


damn... pitch is one importent thing


Posted by Great Outdoors on Mar-16-2002 18:01:

Yeah it is but think of it this way, I think you would rather have a more sensitive pitch to train at home in order to improve your beat-hearing and sensing.. when you come to the Techs, it's going to be so much easier.


Posted by YuVaL on Mar-16-2002 18:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Great Outdoors
Yeah it is but think of it this way, I think you would rather have a more sensitive pitch to train at home in order to improve your beat-hearing and sensing.. when you come to the Techs, it's going to be so much easier.


true!!..



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