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Posted by ronaldishak on Sep-13-2006 03:42:

The new iTunes 7 and what it means for us

Let me start of by saying our endless emails and requests to apple to have gapless playback has now been answered, today on September 12, 2006. If you havent checkout the new iTunes 7, i suggest you check it out at apple.com .

The new iTunes 7 now supports gapless playbacks! No more 2 second skips on your iPod, no more 80 minute continuously mixed track (but separated tracks with gapless playbacks). This is HUGE for Electronic Dance Music since most of the things we listen to are continuously mixed! Like those livesets, those radio sets, those albums, etc._

I wanted to know what you predict will change in how we listen to music and how it will change "the SCENE". I know there are a lot of you sceners that browse this forum and I hope this post can reach out to you and how you release music. Perhaps ripping albums as single tracks instead of one big mp3 file with a cue.

I want to know what you think about this new milestone in listening to EDM.

Personally, I cant wait for the day we can listen to Armin's A State Of Trance Radio Show as single tracks on my ipod without worying about the 2second skip, continuously for 2 hours. :-)


Posted by stevieboy32808 on Sep-13-2006 03:48:

Could you please explain to me how the ipod eliminates those gaps? I'm a technology nut and love learning about new innovations which in this case involves the mp3 format.


Posted by starglider on Sep-13-2006 03:54:

Keep in mind the MP3 format doesn't support gaplessness.


Posted by ronaldishak on Sep-13-2006 03:57:

quote:
Originally posted by starglider
Keep in mind the MP3 format doesn't support gaplessness.


yes, its not the mp3 files itself, but how itunes and the ipod plays them. go checkout the demo and download the new itunes 7 for yourself.. i just did a quck split of armins ASOT 265 and wow, ive never been so amazed with my itunes.. im going to buy the 80gb ipod tommorow and dump my entire essentialmix archive and ASOT archive (and yess i have them all since ASOT 001)_ and im going to go on a cue searching spree. there goes my weekend.


Posted by flavdave on Sep-13-2006 04:10:

Is it really gapless or does it just crossfade between tracks?


Posted by ronaldishak on Sep-13-2006 04:11:

quote:
Originally posted by flavdave
Is it really gapless or does it just crossfade between tracks?


its gapless, you have to try it to believe it... feels like those cd playbacks. i now discovered that if the tracks are encoded in VBR there will be a slight click.


Posted by flavdave on Sep-13-2006 04:12:

And by the way, this is not a "milestone" in the way we listen to EDM. The scene does not revolve around iPods.


Posted by woscar on Sep-13-2006 04:23:

Yeah, I agree about the "milestone" thing being a little too much...

...but I have to say that it really is a good thing since I know a bunch of EDM lovers that fucking hate having to rip mixed cds as a huge mp3 file...and this will certainly be huge for them


Posted by lazy chick on Sep-13-2006 04:25:

this is the best thing since the phonograph


Posted by Ian on Sep-13-2006 07:16:

quote:
Originally posted by lazy chick
this is the best thing since the phonograph


more like the pornograph.


Posted by Jarvmeister on Sep-13-2006 09:28:

I read this with great hopes and went immediately to download the new iTunes.

All I can find under the playback options in iTunes is the option to crossfade, with the minimum segment of time being set to 1 second.

Am I missing something? As it stands this new feature is more useless than the very small gap that we used to get, which although annoying, was infinitely better than the mini train wreck we're now exposed to on every track.

I hope someone points out to me that I've missed an important setting......

Jarv


Posted by Jarvmeister on Sep-13-2006 09:28:

I read this with great hopes and went immediately to download the new iTunes.

All I can find under the playback options in iTunes is the option to crossfade, with the minimum segment of time being set to 1 second.

Am I missing something? As it stands this new feature is more useless than the very small gap that we used to get, which although annoying, was infinitely better than the mini train wreck we're now exposed to on every track.

I hope someone points out to me that I've missed an important setting......

Jarv


Posted by 303 on Sep-13-2006 10:03:

gapless playback has been available for quite a while using Rockbox on your ipod...


Posted by Gauss on Sep-13-2006 10:31:

Just tried it out and it works great. It it work on iPod as well, that's even better. Finally no more 2 second gaps between mixed tracks.

quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister
I read this with great hopes and went immediately to download the new iTunes.

All I can find under the playback options in iTunes is the option to crossfade, with the minimum segment of time being set to 1 second.

Am I missing something? As it stands this new feature is more useless than the very small gap that we used to get, which although annoying, was infinitely better than the mini train wreck we're now exposed to on every track.

I hope someone points out to me that I've missed an important setting......

Jarv

Yeah, you're missing something. Turn the crossfade off and it'll work perfectly smooth.


Posted by stan229 on Sep-13-2006 11:41:

is there a way i can install itunes and not haveit delete all my tracks upon start? and NEVER delete tracks, and just add
this is why i use yamipod


Posted by Jarvmeister on Sep-13-2006 12:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Gauss
Just tried it out and it works great. It it work on iPod as well, that's even better. Finally no more 2 second gaps between mixed tracks.


Yeah, you're missing something. Turn the crossfade off and it'll work perfectly smooth.


SWEET - that's a great enhancement, a real improvement. Thanks for pointing this out to us ronaldishak and Gauss.

nice............


Jarv


Posted by Ariah on Sep-13-2006 12:58:

ooooooh... finally i can add all my mix cds to my ipod. Until now i've just had full length songs on to "avoid" the annoying gap


Posted by Pattink on Sep-13-2006 14:10:

hey, comment about the "2 second gaps" on people's iPods. 1st, my ipod only had like 1/4-1/2 a second gaps (3rd generation 40 GB), and dont say, "you just dont have that much music on it", because it was completely full (as in I had to delete music to put more on) of just music.

How often do you guys defragment your iPod's harddrive?

Also, rockbox has been able to do this for a while and also, I hate iTunes, because I run on an older system I find it to be a massive RAM whore.


Posted by 303 on Sep-13-2006 14:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Pattink
[...] I hate iTunes, because I run on an older system I find it to be a massive RAM whore.


no reason to use iTunes at all. Theres plenty of other choices available for all platforms today.
I myself havent used iTunes one single time since i started using an iPod some 3 years ago..


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Sep-13-2006 14:47:

My Winamp and Creative players have been gapless from day 1.


Posted by airmartin on Sep-13-2006 15:54:

Going to give it a try, but I found the crossfade thing down to the smallest value in previous versions to be fine, can't imagine they have changed it much at all.


Posted by airmartin on Sep-13-2006 16:48:

*Stands corrected*

/eidts after about 20 minutes of use

Buggy as, I know it's expected on first release but I'm having issues with processor usage, I mean mines not exactly the worst on the market but the smallest things seem to make songs twitch or jump, from loading up an application to somebody signing in on Msn


Posted by Ariah on Sep-14-2006 07:20:

quote:
Originally posted by 303
gapless playback has been available for quite a while using Rockbox on your ipod...


i installed this yesterday, and it is awesome. Thanks a lot for pointing me there


Posted by Simcut on Sep-14-2006 07:24:

Talking

Yeah, my Itunes is running really slow as well and I've got a 3ghz PC with 2gb ram :S


Posted by idoru on Sep-14-2006 07:30:

quote:
Originally posted by ronaldishak
This is HUGE for Electronic Dance Music since most of the things we listen to are continuously mixed! Like those livesets, those radio sets, those albums, etc._

I wanted to know what you predict will change in how we listen to music and how it will change "the SCENE". I know there are a lot of you sceners that browse this forum and I hope this post can reach out to you and how you release music. Perhaps ripping albums as single tracks instead of one big mp3 file with a cue.

I want to know what you think about this new milestone in listening to EDM.

Personally, I cant wait for the day we can listen to Armin's A State Of Trance Radio Show as single tracks on my ipod without worying about the 2second skip, continuously for 2 hours. :-)




I put all of my sets onto my IPod as one set. It's not a hassle to skip through the set if I want to go to a certain point. I have one CD on my IPod as individual tracks, and the gap is far less than two seconds and isn't even an inconvenience.

Gaps between tracks isn't the end of the world.


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