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Posted by HardTranceProd on Sep-13-2006 18:00:

Unhappy How scary is this? New study finds 92% of Americans are religious

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14805530/


Posted by metalgearsolid on Sep-13-2006 18:04:

But um do they believe that Religion should be a part of politics?


Posted by HardTranceProd on Sep-13-2006 18:08:

quote:
Originally posted by metalgearsolid
But um do they believe that Religion should be a part of politics?


if they believe that, they're even dumber than I thought.

But just in general.. 92% religious... that's insane


Posted by josh4 on Sep-13-2006 18:08:

same study, different article

quote:
America is revealed as one nation under four faces of God
By Tim Reid
A survey shows that the way Americans see the Almighty is closely linked to their political beliefs



NINE in ten Americans believe in God but how they vote, or regard the Iraq war, depends on the very different views they have about His personality, according to a detailed survey of religion in the US.

It found that Americans hold four different images of God � Authoritarian, Benevolent, Critical or Distant � and these views are far more powerful indicators about their political, social and moral attitudes than any of the traditional categories such as Protestant, Catholic or Evangelical.

The study also suggests that America is more religious than previously thought, with only 5.2 per cent of respondents calling themselves atheist and 91.8 per cent saying that they believed in God.

In Britain, by contrast, 20 per cent say that they hold no belief in a higher power and only 38 per cent claim to believe in a traditional God, according to a 2005 survey.

The American survey, conducted by Baylor University�s Institute for Studies of Religion in Texas, broke new ground in asking respondents how they viewed God�s personality.

Researchers found that Americans hold four distinct views, and these �Four Gods� are remarkably accurate diviners of how an American thinks about everything from politics, abortion, taxation and marriage. �You learn more about people�s moral and political behaviour if you know their image of God than almost any other measure,� said Christopher Bader, one of the researchers.

Nearly a third of Americans, 31.4 per cent, believe in an Authoritarian God, angry at earthly sin and willing to inflict divine retribution � including tsunamis and hurricanes.

People who see God this way are religiously and politically the most conservative. They are more likely to be less educated and have lower incomes, come from the South and be white evangelicals or black Protestants.

At the other end of the scale is the Distant God, seen by 24.4 per cent as a faceless, cosmic force that launched the world but leaves it alone. This is seen more by liberals, moral relativists and those who don�t attend church. This God has most believers on the West Coast.

The Benevolent God, popular in America�s Midwest among mainstream Protestants, Catholics and Jews, is one that sets absolute standards for man, but is also forgiving � engaged but not so angry. Caring for the sick is high on the list of priorities for these 23 per cent of believers.

The Critical God, at 16 per cent, is viewed as the classic bearded old man, judgmental but not going to intervene or punish, and is popular on the East Coast.

African Americans believe overwhelmingly (53.4 per cent) in an Authoritarian God.

Women tend towards very engaged images of God � Authoritarian and Benevolent � while men tend toward the Distant God, and are more likely to be atheist.

More than 80 per cent of those who see an Authoritarian God believe gay marriage is wrong, compared with only 30 per cent who view their God as distant.

Only 12 per cent of Authoritarians want to abolish the death penalty, compared with 27 per cent of those who see a Distant God. On Iraq, 63 per cent of Authoritarians see the war as justified, compared with 47 for Benevolent, 37 for Critical and 29 for Distant.

Nearly 54 per cent of Authoritarians believe that Saddam Hussein was involved in the September 11, 2001 attacks, compared with 23 per cent of those who believe in a Distant God.

�This is a very powerful tool to understand core differences in the United States,� said Paul Froese, a professor at Baylor. �If I know your image of God, I can tell all kind of things about you. It�s a central part of your world view.�

Only one-fifth of those surveyed believed that God favoured the US. The researchers found one-third of Americans are evangelical Protestants, about a quarter are mainstream Protestant, one-fifth are Roman Catholic and 5 per cent are black Protestant.

Jews comprised 2.5 per cent of the population, while 5 per cent belong to other faiths. More than a quarter of Americans have read Dan Brown�s The Da Vinci Code, although it appeared to have had little impact on beliefs.

A majority said they believed in prophetic dreams, and four in ten say there were once ancient civilisations such as Atlantis. More than four in ten have seen Mel Gibson�s The Passion of the Christ.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/articl...2355486,00.html


Posted by DJ Shibby on Sep-13-2006 18:24:

Do you guys agree with me that religion (especially organized!) is dangerous, whereas educated personal spirituality is valuable?


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Sep-13-2006 18:34:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Do you guys agree with me that religion (especially organized!) is dangerous, whereas educated personal spirituality is valuable?

Yes


Posted by sensorium on Sep-13-2006 19:37:

That explains why there are more than two churches in each block in the whole country.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Sep-13-2006 20:30:

What exactly is scary about it?


Posted by Shakka on Sep-13-2006 20:45:

I think about 90% of the world believes in god/is a member of organized religion, though I don't have a stat source to back it up. Simply being religious doesn't make one a radical extremist.


Posted by Moongoose on Sep-13-2006 20:48:

Only a matter of time before some christian fundamentalist blows a few people up to prove some obscure point. My money is on those godhatesfags people, im suprised that they havent bombed san francisco yet.


Posted by metalgearsolid on Sep-13-2006 20:50:

No, it doesn't. But 31.4% of americans would count as those extremists. That is fucking scary as hell.


Religion is getting richer richer and richer.


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Sep-13-2006 20:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Moongoose
Only a matter of time before some christian fundamentalist blows a few people up to prove some obscure point. My money is on those godhatesfags people, im suprised that they havent bombed san francisco yet.

They don't have the numbers.


Posted by Purple on Sep-13-2006 20:50:

Now those are pretty disturbing facts/numbers. 92%!!


Posted by josh4 on Sep-13-2006 21:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
I think about 90% of the world believes in god/is a member of organized religion, though I don't have a stat source to back it up. Simply being religious doesn't make one a radical extremist.

Yes, I think the real message here is that a belief in God and being religous doesn't mean someone has to be anti-abortion, bible thumping, God fearing, anti-gay, evangelical red-state conservative. Which might come as a shock to those people but to everyone else, not so much.


Posted by Marc Summers on Sep-13-2006 22:53:

How is that "Scary"? You're seriously misunderstanding religion.


Posted by tathi on Sep-13-2006 22:53:

that's pretty scary

i think the Brittish sent all the convicts to Australia and all the Religious Wackos to America

i'd prefer to live among the convincts anyday


Posted by josh4 on Sep-13-2006 23:18:

quote:
Originally posted by tathi
i think the Brittish sent all the convicts to Australia and all the Religious Wackos to America

Actually, yes thats generally what happened.


Posted by Kapedano on Sep-13-2006 23:33:

There is nothing wrong in believing in God, I don�t get why you pussies are bitching about?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-13-2006 23:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Kapedan
There is nothing wrong in believing in God, I don�t get why you pussies are bitching about?


how about it makes you stupid?


Posted by Kapedano on Sep-14-2006 00:06:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
how about it makes you stupid?


Why? Do you know that there isnt a God? What makes you so bright that you think there isnt one?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-14-2006 00:17:

as far as im concerned, the onus is on people that believe in magic to show evidence of that magic.

i also think the mental processes one goes through to establish a belief in god to be largely emotive, irrational and pretty silly. i find the concept of god to be pretty silly.

thus i find believers to be pretty silly.

i dont need to be shown proof there arent fairies on the dark side of the moon for me to discount the idea.


Posted by Kapedano on Sep-14-2006 00:23:

But all these years of civilization, and when I hear stats that almost 90 percent of the world believes in God or a supperior bein..then it makes me think, that you might be the stupid one here.


Posted by metalgearsolid on Sep-14-2006 00:29:

^Actually that is where you are wrong. Stupid people far outnumber the smart people...like 9 to 10.


Posted by Kapedano on Sep-14-2006 00:35:

quote:
Originally posted by metalgearsolid
^Actually that is where you are wrong. Stupid people far outnumber the smart people...like 9 to 10.


You really cant call 9 of 10 people in this world stupid. There is no fact on that anyways, its just your opinion.


Posted by metalgearsolid on Sep-14-2006 00:36:

quote:
Originally posted by HardTranceProd
if they believe that, they're even dumber than I thought.

But just in general.. 92% religious... that's insane


Wasn't there a poll that said 62% of Americans believe religion should be more of a part for government decision? I think it was a while back, and isn't Dubya known for saying, something like, "God picked me to run the country."?


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