A continuous loop at the end of a vinyl?

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Posted by Vero on Sep-14-2006 04:38:

A continuous loop at the end of a vinyl?

so tonight i was mixing Hisham Samawi - Through You (step inside mix) into Telepopmusic - Breathe (Markus Schulz Remix). Its a great matchup if you dig kinda minimal proggy downtempo breaks, and then OMG! I've got em locked tight, I smoothed out the mix over at least 90 seconds, Breathe is totally in and Through You has the highs and lows cut and im tweaking the mids waiting for the track to end, except...

It Never Ends!!! Aparently, the cut on the vinyl dumps into a 4 beat loop on the farthest inside groove. I've never heard of such a thing. I mean its great cuz you are guaranteed to never run out of track, but gets stupid repetative.

I found it kinda handy since i can just leave it inthe loop and bring that stuttered vocal in all throughout the next track.

Anybody else got a record with a loop on the end of it?

Posted by nchs09 on Sep-14-2006 04:58:

im conffused... the regular ol vinyl has a loop on it? :conff:

Posted by Vero on Sep-14-2006 05:05:

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Originally posted by nchs09
im conffused... the regular ol vinyl has a loop on it? :conff:

yeah dude, ya know when you come to the end of a track on vinyl and the needle goes in towards the label and falls into that loop with no audio to keep it from crashing the stylus into the label? and it does that little click everytime it falls back into the loop.

well on this press, that loop is at the end of the track, it just keep spinning the same 4 beats over and over and its a perfect loop and it doesnt even click when itcomes back around. its the weirdest shit. if no one understands im doing a video of this shit, its really geekin me out.

Posted by TaylorR on Sep-14-2006 05:19:

i think that's pretty tight

Posted by DOOMBOT on Sep-14-2006 05:26:

I know what you mean, sounds cool... I guess. Guess you'll never be closing out a set with that track though.

Posted by Vero on Sep-14-2006 05:30:

quote:
Originally posted by TaylorR
i think that's pretty tight

I'm with you man. The record label is called "native theory" its their second release. as taken from their site:

"Through You features two mixes: The first is the original vocal mix which will be featured on James Zabiela's upcoming Utilities EP (Renaissance). The second mix is a more tracky minimal interpretation that ends in another DJ friendly locked groove."

Posted by Vero on Sep-14-2006 05:31:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
I know what you mean, sounds cool... I guess. Guess you'll never be closing out a set with that track though.

nah, but breathe is a good closer and it goes great into that

Posted by miamitranceman on Sep-14-2006 05:58:

Never heard of that before. That's pretty sweet indeed.

Posted by Allied Nations on Sep-14-2006 06:29:

cool. continous loops are too much fun if you want to get DIRTAY!

Posted by idoru on Sep-14-2006 06:34:

I've heard of locked grooves before. Not a bad idea to end the track with.

Posted by hooj1 on Sep-14-2006 06:49:

I have one myself. it loops the ending vocals and hi hats. its cool but never really used it...plus the track wasn't all that good

Posted by Zild on Sep-14-2006 10:19:

I suppose you've never heard of locked grooves.

Posted by Vero on Sep-14-2006 15:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I suppose you've never heard of locked grooves.

i have but i've never heard of the track just flowing seamlessly into a locked groove.

Posted by Zild on Sep-14-2006 17:34:

Yeah usually the last bar or so is looped.

Posted by david.michael on Sep-14-2006 17:38:

That's pretty sweet!

Posted by Floorfiller on Sep-14-2006 17:51:

yeah i've got one that does that...an old techno record.

you can make your own loops at the end too with some creativity and tape

Posted by colombian raver on Sep-15-2006 18:39:

I've always thought why they didn't do that, so it's pertty cool to know that someone did it

Posted by ASFSE on Sep-16-2006 02:07:

isn't that what they do with scratch records with all the samples on them?

Posted by wizniz on Sep-16-2006 16:29:

Posted by mnemonic. on Sep-18-2006 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by wizniz

manual loops for the win

i rather set my own in/out points, and then adjust accordingly, i will sometimes use this and then adjust the out, but barely ever

Posted by DOOMBOT on Sep-18-2006 02:00:

quote:
Originally posted by wizniz

Easy to abuse.

Posted by Ministerio on Sep-18-2006 18:53:

Yea I got my first LOOPING vinyl last week!

It's a track from Umek, and there are 4 sampler loops on it...never ends...very wierd..

Posted by Zild on Sep-18-2006 20:21:

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Originally posted by ASFSE
isn't that what they do with scratch records with all the samples on them?

Not usually. Most of the time its just the sample a single time but you can get skipless samples that have the sample over and over again so if you jump the groove it lands in an adjacent groove and plays the same sample so it sounds 'skipless'. Most of the time the battle records will have the last instrumental turn into a locked groove that way you can play the loop of the instrumental and practice your scratches over it.

Posted by razzi on Sep-19-2006 04:20:

always a great addition to the beauty that is vinyl

Posted by Rubenz on Sep-19-2006 16:03:

I have a few techno records with locked grooves on them.. How long does it take before they wear out?

I can imagine if you play a groove over and over again it will sound like garbage after a while?

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