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Posted by YuVaL on Mar-12-2002 12:39:

Please Enter Here! (Importent)

let me show u the real side of the war:

http://lgw.rotter.net/israel/


Posted by Wiley on Mar-12-2002 13:12:

Smiley DJ

I can see where your'e coming from m8, but israel hasnt exactly helped itself out in the past few days...


Posted by Blik on Mar-12-2002 13:23:

dude, you only look at it from your own side, The Iraeli's bomb Palestinians every day, I wished that the site showed that also.....

just give them an own state and problems will be solved, the prolems that you hate so much, why aren't the israeli's willing to give them an own state? The Arab-world wants to give them an own state, the US wants it, Europe wants it.....

It is the Israeli's own fault that this mess happened....


Posted by dj_cuba on Mar-12-2002 13:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Wiley
I can see where your'e coming from m8, but israel hasnt exactly helped itself out in the past few days...


I agree with u Israel doesn't exactly help itself but unfortunatly the Arabs will always be like that. I can't understand it myself. When the world trade center fell down they were all running around in the streets praising allah! I can't understand where their anger comes from, why are they pleased that thousands of innocent people who have nothing at all to do with the polital situation of the middle east are dead? I mean here in the UK two of our enimies are Argentina and Iraq. If a nuclear bomb was dropped there and killed thousands of people I would be sad and I would have the sense to realise those individual people probably had no hatred towards the UK.


Posted by fastmp3 on Mar-12-2002 13:53:

Yuval i'm sorry but what you did is just lame

me too i can come and start a thread full of links showing all the atrocities israel did to the arabs since 1948 ... do you think it's gonna help something ? as the others said , give the palestinians their own state and the muslim part of jerusalem , i'm pretty sure it will solve all the problems .

enough said


Posted by YuVaL on Mar-12-2002 14:02:

if i was president i would give arabs their own country

but back in 1948 when we offord the arabs their own country... they didn't want 2

if the arabs can handle 2 weeks without a suicide bomber... then we can go to the tables & talk (not TT'z.. )


Posted by fastmp3 on Mar-12-2002 14:12:

dude wake up and smell the coffee : sharon and almost all israeli politicians don't want to go to the negotiation tables

the proof is : south lebanon ... did israel negociate with lebanon ? nope they didn't , it's hezbollah who fought untill israel removed its army ...

if israelis can handle 2 weeks without creating a new colony in the palestinian teritory , entering a refugee camp , bombing houses , etc ... then we can sit and negotiate with you , we will even smoke some nargila together


Posted by YuVaL on Mar-12-2002 14:15:

quote:
Originally posted by FASTDJMP3
dude wake up and smell the coffee : sharon and almost all israeli politicians don't want to go to the negotiation tables

the proof is : south lebanon ... did israel negociate with lebanon ? nope they didn't , it's hezbollah who fought untill israel removed its army ...

if israelis can handle 2 weeks without creating a new colony in the palestinian teritory , entering a refugee camp , bombing houses , etc ... then we can sit and negotiate with you , we will even smoke some nargila together


YES!!!
& bring pvd 2 spin


Posted by Wiley on Mar-12-2002 14:59:

Smiley DJ

Well expect israel to go ballistic any time soon...

quote:
Seven Israelis killed and six wounded by gunmen

Three gunmen have killed at least seven Israelis and wounded six after ambushing their vehicles from a hillside near the Israeli-Lebanon border.

Police believe the assailants came from Lebanon but the Israeli military said there was no indication of infiltration across the northern border.

Security forces responded immediately, engaging in a gun battle the assailants in the hills surrounding Kibbutz Metsuba, a communal farm.

Two of the gunmen were killed while the third continued to shoot on the road.

A truck driver, two passengers in a second car and a person in a third vehicle were killed in the attack, police sources said. Rescue officials said six people had been wounded, two moderately and four lightly.

Residents of the kibbutz fled into underground bomb shelters while passengers in vehicles sought cover where they could.

In an apparent attempt to dissociate Lebanon from the attack, the TV station of Hezbollah guerrillas in Lebanon suggested that Palestinian guerrillas were behind the attack. There was no immediate comment from Hezbollah.

Lebanese security officials said it appeared the attack came from within Israeli territory and not from Lebanon.

A witness telephoned Israeli radio from under a bridge where he was hiding while the gun battle ensued. He said the shooting on the road between Shlomi and Metsuba originated from a ridge overlooking the road.

Police, large numbers of soldiers and a helicopter responded immediately to the attack, the witness said.


Posted by PSi on Mar-12-2002 15:17:

is it me or do you just like casuing a scene around here.....that article pissed me off becasue from the side i see...Palestian children are getting shot at by throwing stones at armoured vehicles and israeli soldiers (grown men may i add with good body armour) Face it......the israeli's decidied to all of a sudden come back to "their" holy land after a very very long time and jsut decided they want it back....thousands and thousands of palestinians became refugees...they were kicked out of their own country after living there for a long time. Face it people what you see on CNN is absolute garbage. It's totally pro israeli.....ive said enough...i dont feel like educating ignorance.

later
PSI


Posted by flystyler on Mar-12-2002 15:36:

Well i wish the world could be at peace, this is developing rapidly, and if both sides cant agree this will get a lot worse. I hope something can be sorted, but with hatred growing on both sides i cant see it happening


Posted by Pjotr G on Mar-12-2002 15:55:

difficult viscious circle to break


Posted by ZinG on Mar-12-2002 15:59:

omg
dude if i really care i would have made the same site with viceversa Comparison.
Or as well i can show you same pics from both sides.
Either both sides having their Children killed or their Men killing.

Really sorry for this but this will never end imo, but one thing i do know is that i will sit with Yuval - Lucky - Gil - Taha and smoke a nargila one day and listen to trance


Posted by vmc on Mar-12-2002 16:19:

There's one thing I can't understand:
Why did Israelis build their homes at the West Coast?
My answer is: to colonise Palestinian teritory and later on
to remove Palestinians from there.
Palestinians shouls be given their own teritory. That
would solve the problem, therefore there will be no more
terroristic attacks on Israelis.


Posted by Tranex02 on Mar-12-2002 18:45:

ok....i think the point has been made...
Let's just hope that things calm down a bit.....it's going out of control...


Posted by biznology on Mar-12-2002 19:07:

well im not going to pretend to know the answers to something i really dont know much about but what i do know:
1. The Palestinians are portrayed as militant crazies when they arent really any different from ANYONE else on the planet...YES, even you israelites.
2. The state of Israel, with its Western support has created a pro-Israel viewpoint almost everywhere that is completely reinforcing point #1 above.

beyond that, im not sure what can be done in israel. this shit has been going on for thousands of years. unless we can convince the millions of inhabitants there that religion shouldnt be destroying EVERYONES ways of life - then i dont know if there is a solution...late/


Posted by Lazgti on Mar-12-2002 20:58:

I agree with Psi and Biz, dude you are right. It appears that the US chooses to help certain sides in every conflict wether they are involved or not...and that my friends is why these people have such fahked up views towards the US. Hence the cheering at the collapse of the towers. Also, sit and think for two seconds how we educate ourselves and make opinions of these people. We watch the news here in Canada and the US or wherever. Everything has a US slant...and it is clear the US loves Israel and could not give a rats ass about Palestine. The news shows pictures of arabs cheering and jumping and going crazy partying. Can I ask why we don't see fahked up Israeli soldiers who are getting their rocks off by popping caps in unarmed civilians or raping arab women or tearing apart entire villages. Yeah of course...don't forget it takes two to tango. I don't agree with Islamic militarism or the way in which the arabs are trying to get their own state, but I don't beleive for a second that the Israelis are being honest with themselves in thinking that they are sserious about finding peace.

As was mentioned earlier these people were refugees in their own fahking country. The Israeli then occupied and then offer the Palestinians the shitty lands and then put the blame on these people as if their ungrateful or whatever. Imagine someone kicked your ass out of your comfortable home, told you to pick up and go. Then said: OK you know what you can stay in that little corner over there. Imagine that...someone making offers with something they stole from the inhabitants in the first place. WTF? In any case it is spilled milk now...but the truth is that Sharon is an evil fahker and is getting away with murder now that the US has its eyes on Afganistan and its weakened economy. These people wanted freedom...but now even their own state I don't think is enough to appease these people. They have gone beyond desperation because they were deprived for a long time and the backs of the US were turned on them so they are at the point (IMO) where they are saying a big "Fahk you!" to the world and they are prepared to lose all now to accomplish their ends. They have nothing to lose now only to gain. that is why they are such hardasses now.


Posted by ZinG on Mar-13-2002 21:29:

hence i have this example:
Imagine u block a cat in a corner and deprive it from the outer world. What its gonna do? Ofcourse scratch u back!
I think thats the case with palestinians, they have been deprived from mostly everything (land & family), you think they will just sit there and do nothing?\And yes they might as well suicide, just like scorpions circled by fire, cuz they know they lost everything already, and they might as well just take with them the cause of their loss.
My 2 cents.
sorry


Posted by LoopStyle on Mar-13-2002 22:09:

Why can't people accept from one to another? Hate is satin way to show how powerful he is.. I see things I don�t like I just leave it alone. If I was the one to salve world peace and it cost me my life I do it in a hart beat.


Posted by JM on Mar-13-2002 22:37:

damm horrid photos.

>JM<


Posted by ZinG on Mar-13-2002 23:12:


This is how israeli soldiers take "souvenir" pictures with their dead victims.
My 2cents.


Posted by torontotrance on Mar-14-2002 01:23:

Smile

Horrible yes, i'm personally not going to take sides here. Both sides are at fault and both sides need to wake the fuck up and make consessions and end this pointless violence. I honestly don't care how they come to an agreement but please do it fast, we need peace. You ppl seem to take sides, it is easy to point the finger at someone and say you are wrong and this side did this, meanwhile nothing is helped by pointing the finger at someone and doing nothing. Some of you will probably take issue with what i say, bottomline is that we need peace.


Posted by Trancewave on Mar-14-2002 02:24:

Re: Please Enter Here! (Importent)

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Energy
let me show u the real side of the war:

http://lgw.rotter.net/israel/


I'm so pissed at myself for clicking that link. All I have to say is that is THE FUCKING LAMEST PIECE OF SHIT I'VE EVER SEEN!!! WTF!

I don't confess to know everything there is to know about the conflict and I'm not going to take sides but for fucks sake DJ - Energy STOP FUCKING SPREADING PROPAGANDA BULLSHIT LIKE THIS TO THE FORUMS!!!

There's atrocities committed from both sides here and people aren't stupid . You could easily find pictures to support the other side. Showing pics like these to garner support and sympathy for one side is rubbish.

What you just did was incredibly lame.


Posted by ZinG on Mar-14-2002 03:30:

yeah but Dj Energy is gonna smoke nargila with me and listen to trance
cuz we are not here to flame eachother anyway


Posted by Az on Mar-14-2002 19:58:

quote:
Originally posted by ZinG
hence i have this example:
Imagine u block a cat in a corner and deprive it from the outer world. What its gonna do? Ofcourse scratch u back!
I think thats the case with palestinians, they have been deprived from mostly everything (land & family), you think they will just sit there and do nothing?\And yes they might as well suicide, just like scorpions circled by fire, cuz they know they lost everything already, and they might as well just take with them the cause of their loss.
My 2 cents.
sorry


Imagine a cat thats had the entire region to itself for over a 1000 years, and then pushed into a corner, and your gonna get fucking nuked
my 2 cents


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