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Posted by Cosmic Fur on Sep-16-2006 00:28:

ZOMG! Earth has a 1 in 10^-40 chance of being destroyed by the crazy Swiss/French!



Baby Bang experiment could open door to new dimension

Monday September 11, 2006

Deep underground on the Franco-Swiss border, someone will throw a switch next year to start one of the most ambitious experiments in history, probing the secrets of the universe and possibly finding new dimensions.

The Large Hadron Collider - a 27km-long circular particle accelerator at the CERN experimental facility near Geneva, will smash protons into one another at unimaginable speeds trying to replicate in miniature the events of the Big Bang.

"These beams will have the kinetic energy of an aircraft carrier slammed into the size of a zero on a 20p piece," Brian Cox of Manchester University told the annual meeting of the British Association for the Advancement of Science.

"We are going to make mini Big Bangs.

"There has never been such a jump in particle physics. It will go into an area that we don't really understand," he added.

The fundamental goal of the massive machine is to answer the basic but crucial question of how matter was created at the birth of the universe.

"We don't know what 95 per cent of the universe is made of - which is a bit embarrassing for a subject that claims to be fundamental," Dr Cox said.

"There is dark matter. It is all over the place but we have no idea what it is."

"There is also something called dark energy, and that is an even bigger question.

"It makes up about 70 per cent of the energy in the universe, but again we have absolutely no idea what it is.

"It is an incredibly exciting machine. It will be turned on next year and run for at least a decade and probably 20 years and the first results - if the machine behaves itself - should start coming out within a year," he added.

If the theories are correct, the machine will create tiny black holes that evaporate and possibly even find particles that offer evidence that the three dimensions known to mankind are just a fraction of those that exist.

"That would be an even bigger headline than the black holes. It could be that there is a whole new universe a millimetre away from our heads but at right-angles to the three dimensions that are here," Dr Cox said.

"That would be a real paradigm shift - our relegation to a little sheet in a multi-dimensional universe.

"That kind of thing is really profound and will capture the imagination that perhaps the origin of mass won't, although it should.

"For the first time in many decades we have built a machine that exceeds our powers of prediction.

"New processes are bound to be discovered. We are truly journeying into unknown territory."

Dr Cox dismissed worries that by adventuring into the unknown and creating tiny black holes, the machine could even destroy the planet.

"The probability is at the level of 10 to the minus 40," he said.

MINI BANGS

* Scientists aim to reproduce miniature versions of the so-called Big Bang, which is thought to have started the universe.

* To do this they will smash protons together at huge speeds along a 27km tube known as a particle accelerator.

* They hope to create tiny black holes or find extra dimensions in the universe.

* They estimate the possibility of accidentally destroying the planet as extremely low.

* The risk is calculated at about 10 to the minus 40 - a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance.

- SOURCE


Posted by SkyHigh on Sep-16-2006 01:12:

* They estimate the possibility of accidentally destroying the planet as extremely low.


They just said they have no idea what is going to happen..
How can they estimate what is going to happen??


Posted by areon on Sep-16-2006 01:19:

the combination of "we dont know" and "chance of destroying the earth" is a little unsettling, no wait , is FUCKING BANANAS!!!!!


Posted by dEsidEL on Sep-16-2006 01:26:



wasn't CERN the same institute Dan Brown wrote about in Angels and Demons?


Posted by Endlesswave on Sep-16-2006 01:29:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


wasn't CERN the same institute Dan Brown wrote about in Angels and Demons?




Yep.


Posted by SkyHigh on Sep-16-2006 01:31:

same name anyways....can't remeber the location tho


Just checked ..Yep same place.


Posted by loconet on Sep-16-2006 01:59:

Here is a short film about it.

Truly amazing stuff. I respect and love hearing these guys get so into explaining about what they are researching / playing with. Inspiring.


Posted by loca on Sep-16-2006 02:17:

quote:
Originally posted by loconet
Here is a short film about it.

Truly amazing stuff. I respect and love hearing these guys get so into explaining about what they are researching / playing with. Inspiring.


Yeah i'm not so into it... that's fucking scary! Needless to say i'll be hitting church everyday for the next few months.


Posted by malek on Sep-16-2006 02:32:

quote:
* They estimate the possibility of accidentally destroying the planet as extremely low.

* The risk is calculated at about 10 to the minus 40 - a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance.


why risk the planet if there is a chance, even so insignificant?


Posted by dEsidEL on Sep-16-2006 02:56:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
why risk the planet if there is a chance, even so insignificant?



lol.. because the risk is far greater electing Bush as president

might as well roll the dice with this , greater reward too


Posted by malek on Sep-16-2006 07:43:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL

lol.. because the risk is far greater electing Bush as president

might as well roll the dice with this , greater reward too



cluster bombs and b52s do not destroy the whole planet at once


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Sep-16-2006 07:49:

I say blow it up....we can start from scratch and maybe get it right this time.


Posted by Xavier Moriarty on Sep-16-2006 11:30:

quote:
* They estimate the possibility of accidentally destroying the planet as extremely low.




i dont like sound of that. its been great knowing some of you. some of you, on the other hand, are jerks so i cannot wait till sopmene turns on this awesome device.

i'll glady de-virginise lotsa girls till then. some of them i'll de-virginise trice.

and im calling out mike tyson, yeah you pussy, come and get it.

monica belluci, i wanna do some nasty shit to you. like whoa !!

and.....

yeah, thats all for now. more later, sleep now.

LOL


Posted by Fundamental on Sep-16-2006 13:50:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I say blow it up....we can start from scratch and maybe get it right this time.


Start from scratch on what exactly?

Yeah, pretty difficult to start again without a planet to do it on...


Posted by DJ_Science on Sep-16-2006 14:06:

You can do �order of magnitude� calculations. When they say they "don't know what is going to happen" they are referring to the details. I like to compare this to when they developed the atomic bomb. During the early stages of development a number of very bright physicists were worried that the A-bomb would release enough energy to initiate a fusion reaction in the atmosphere. Later, someone (I believe it was Fermi but I would have to look it up) did a few calculations and concluded that the energy would be far less. Although he couldn't pin point the amount of energy he knew it wasn't going to destroy the earth.

And now that I have just compared CERN to one of the first atomic bombs they�re probably going to kick me out of the physics clubs. Anyway, now I am off to a conference talk.


quote:
Originally posted by SkyHigh
* They estimate the possibility of accidentally destroying the planet as extremely low.


They just said they have no idea what is going to happen..
How can they estimate what is going to happen??


Posted by VERTiG0 on Sep-16-2006 14:44:

It's about time someone did something awesome with a super-collider.

I want me a fucking dimension with dinosaurs and robots.


Posted by RobSt*r on Sep-16-2006 14:52:

Kind of reminds me of that machine they built in that movie "Contact" with Jody Foster.


Posted by Matt on Sep-16-2006 18:07:

I wonder what the basis for this estimate of apocolypse is?



Anyone else thinking Half-Life about now?


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Sep-16-2006 18:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Matt
I wonder what the basis for this estimate of apocolypse is?



Anyone else thinking Half-Life about now?


I'm stocking up on shotguns and health packs.


Edit: Wait, where the fuck did my healthpacks go?


Posted by Abercrombie on Sep-16-2006 22:20:

Re: ZOMG! Earth has a 1 in 10^-40 chance of being destroyed by the crazy Swiss/French!



I know what they're really building.


Posted by dEsidEL on Sep-16-2006 22:22:

Re: Re: ZOMG! Earth has a 1 in 10^-40 chance of being destroyed by the crazy Swiss/Fr

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie

I know what they're really building.





heaven help us if the villain on the other side turns out to look like Jay Davidson


Posted by Tordan on Sep-16-2006 22:46:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
why risk the planet if there is a chance, even so insignificant?

so what if the entire planet blows up? there won't be anyone around to complain. not even jayx1


Posted by psychosomatica on Sep-16-2006 23:06:

This would make a great weapon.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Sep-21-2006 02:46:

I forgot to add this.

"Doctor Freeman, report to Anomalous Materials Test Lab immediately."


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Sep-21-2006 03:40:

I wonder when they're actually going to fire this thing up.



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