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Steve Roach vs. Steve Reich

who do you prefer and which release clinched it?

Reich thanks to The Cave.

Don't hold your breath about starting a flame thread over this.

Roach is tight, don't think ive heard Reich.

Papa Roach vs Third Reich

Steve Roach of course, his entire discography is pure awe. Greatest musician on the planet.

Steve Roach, I like the ambient nature and space soundscapes he creates. Good music for just spacing out in bed...picturing yourself somewhere in the desert or on some Native American sacred grounds, or floating amongst the stars....or an endless void (he has an album just based on this idea of a "void"). Even the grand canyon comes to mind..quite evocative stuff....as his albums seem to have a theme behind each one.

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Originally posted by Spirit5 Steve Roach, I like the ambient nature and space soundscapes he creates. Good music for just spacing out in bed...picturing yourself somewhere in the desert or on some Native American sacred grounds, or floating amongst the stars....or an endless void (he has an album just based on this idea of a "void"). Even the grand canyon comes to mind..quite evocative stuff....as his albums seem to have a theme behind each one.

That's right, most of his works are very thematic. He lives in the middle of the desert in Arizona and the desert is a recurring theme in his music. "The Magnificent Void" is absolutely awesome, it's such a great album. I'm glad you mentioned it.

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Originally posted by SMC That's right, most of his works are very thematic. He lives in the middle of the desert in Arizona and the desert is a recurring theme in his music. "The Magnificent Void" is absolutely awesome, it's such a great album. I'm glad you mentioned it.

Yeah it seems to be. That's what i'de like to do when I am done with school and have some money...move down to Arizona or New Mexico and live in the desert and earn some money to create some ambient music..whenever I can get the time to actually learn to produce first haha. But I think what I really want to do is write and I think his music would be great for writing, I just need to buy some of his albums. I'm just basing my views off of some music i've heard from him on various New Age channels on the net or on TV or from previews on CDUniverse. And the whole thematic theme is great, I love thematic stuff...which is one of the reasons why I think "This Binary Universe" by BT is so great...it's pretty similar to Steve Roach's music. By the way, is Steve Roach native american?

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Originally posted by Spirit5 I just need to buy some of his albums. I'm just basing my views off of some music i've heard from him on various New Age channels on the net or on TV or from previews on CDUniverse. And the whole thematic theme is great, I love thematic stuff...which is one of the reasons why I think "This Binary Universe" by BT is so great...it's pretty similar to Steve Roach's music. By the way, is Steve Roach native american?

You should definetly check out more of his work. He releaed an album/compilation two or three years ago named "Space and Time: an introduction to the soundworlds of Steve Roach". It's an overview of his career and of what he represents in music. Of course it's just a glimpse, since he has put out about 100 albums, but it can be good as an introduction. Check out the discography on his website www.steveroach.com, there is a lot of intresting stuff written about every release. You should also check out the Spotted Peccary podcast #7, it's a 45 min conversation with Steve Roach (host is Spotted Peccary's Jon Jenkins who also is a great ambient producer). http://www.spottedpeccary.com/podcasts/showarchive.html . All the podcasts there are full of good stuff.

Regarding TBU, the similarity with music like that of Steve Roach lies in the ambient aspect, BT incorporated classical music and glitchy electronic elements, explicitly electronic percussions and rythms with the stutter concept and all that, those are things you will not find much of in Steve's body of work. He made an album with Vir Unis (another awfully good ambient artist) called Blood Machine that is very electronic-sounding, but with fast and hypnotic, yet gentle, rythms, not to be compared with the stuff on TBU.

Finally, i don't think he is native american, all i know is that he is from California. He looks caucasian.

Roach hands down.

If youre patient enough to sift through his massive discology youll find heaps of amazing little tunes

I like threads like this since i've never heard of either of these two. Will have to check out some of their stuff.

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Originally posted by SMC You should definetly check out more of his work. He releaed an album/compilation two or three years ago named "Space and Time: an introduction to the soundworlds of Steve Roach". It's an overview of his career and of what he represents in music. Of course it's just a glimpse, since he has put out about 100 albums, but it can be good as an introduction. Check out the discography on his website www.steveroach.com, there is a lot of intresting stuff written about every release. You should also check out the Spotted Peccary podcast #7, it's a 45 min conversation with Steve Roach (host is Spotted Peccary's Jon Jenkins who also is a great ambient producer). http://www.spottedpeccary.com/podcasts/showarchive.html . All the podcasts there are full of good stuff. Regarding TBU, the similarity with music like that of Steve Roach lies in the ambient aspect, BT incorporated classical music and glitchy electronic elements, explicitly electronic percussions and rythms with the stutter concept and all that, those are things you will not find much of in Steve's body of work. He made an album with Vir Unis (another awfully good ambient artist) called Blood Machine that is very electronic-sounding, but with fast and hypnotic, yet gentle, rythms, not to be compared with the stuff on TBU. Finally, i don't think he is native american, all i know is that he is from California. He looks caucasian.

Yeah i'll check it out and I think i'll buy a few of his albums after I get Enigma's new one and a few from Amethystium (another really good ambient project from a guy whose only 20 years old from Norway, released his first album at 16).

With the BT thing, I was thinking more in the use of a theme or story like what Steve Roach does. There is definitely a story that seems to go along with "This Binary Universe" something that deals with our place in the Universe and Dreams in this science fiction style. Steve Roach's stuff seems like it's both spacey and organic or natural sounding at the same time, kind of this idea about the world being a part of a bigger whole...and just this experience of awe in the world and in the universe, similar to "This Binary Universe". And of course, they are both ambient albums but it does seem like TBU has more of a beat, while Steve Roach's music is more textural-soundscapish.

I'll check out Vir Unis but to tell you the truth, I prefer not totally electronic sounding electronic music. I guess I look for a warmer or more organic sound (doesn't mean it has to be uplifting all the time but just this sense of warmth or naturalism...putting a "human" element inside of the machine). He kind of looks Native American to me, from some of his pictures, possibly he has some Native American or Mexican-Hispanic blood in him?

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Originally posted by Spirit5 Yeah i'll check it out and I think i'll buy a few of his albums after I get Enigma's new one and a few from Amethystium (another really good ambient project from a guy whose only 20 years old from Norway, released his first album at 16). With the BT thing, I was thinking more in the use of a theme or story like what Steve Roach does. There is definitely a story that seems to go along with "This Binary Universe" something that deals with our place in the Universe and Dreams in this science fiction style. Steve Roach's stuff seems like it's both spacey and organic or natural sounding at the same time, kind of this idea about the world being a part of a bigger whole...and just this experience of awe in the world and in the universe, similar to "This Binary Universe". And of course, they are both ambient albums but it does seem like TBU has more of a beat, while Steve Roach's music is more textural-soundscapish. I'll check out Vir Unis but to tell you the truth, I prefer not totally electronic sounding electronic music. I guess I look for a warmer or more organic sound (doesn't mean it has to be uplifting all the time but just this sense of warmth or naturalism...putting a "human" element inside of the machine). He kind of looks Native American to me, from some of his pictures, possibly he has some Native American or Mexican-Hispanic blood in him?

I like the organic/natural thing, it's something that always amazes me. Artists like Roach create music that sounds natural and organic while being completely electronic. Sometimes i listen to something and feel like, this is really the sound of the desert or, i feel like i'm in the middle of a foggy forest or i'm on the edge of space, but of course there are no such sounds in nature. That's really fascinating, the creaton of the "hypernatural" with sound.

You should definitely check out Vir Unis, he is not more electronic-sounding than Roach, that "Blood Machine" album i mentioned was an experimental project for both of them. Vir Unis' music is very much like that of Steve Roach, in fact many of his albums have been worked on and finalized in Steve's studio The Timeroom.

About the ethnicity, listen to that podcast, you will ask yourself if he is from this planet.

I just noticed this thread, really sorry. Well, both musicians are great, but i would definitely go for steve reich, the great minimalist composer of the 20th century. I recently heard "Music for 18 Mucisians" and it totally blew me away!It's really like beatless trance (repeatitive arpeggiating patterns) played by classically trained musicians. The whole work flows hypnotically smoothly, with thematic patterns that dynamically change and evolve, painting a continuous beautifull dreamy structure. "The Cave", "Tehilim","Three Movements" and "Different Trains/Electric Counterpoint" are excellent as well. Steve Roach is also great though.My personal favorite is "Structures from Silence".

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Originally posted by PETRAN My personal favorite is "Structures from Silence".

Classic! SFS and Dreamtime Return are THE Steve Roach-classics.

I'm going to have to go with Roach on this one. Especially since this is a trance forum and Roach's music is as trance as it can get. Some great albums mentioned here, but they seem to be slanted towards the older, more classic albums. This guy is still actively producing today!!

For some newer works check out 'Proof Positive'. Recently released and made using modern analogue synths. For a taste of what he's like live I recommend the release of his set from the 2005 Nearfest festival called 'Storm Surge'.

Any multimedia fans? He justed released a DVD/CD called Kairos, complete with amazing visuals. He just performed this live out in Tucson, AZ and it was one of the most amazing performances I've ever seen.

This guy embodies contemporary, ethnic electronic trance. Highly recommended!!

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Originally posted by soundstorm I'm going to have to go with Roach on this one. Especially since this is a trance forum and Roach's music is as trance as it can get. Some great albums mentioned here, but they seem to be slanted towards the older, more classic albums. This guy is still actively producing today!! For some newer works check out 'Proof Positive'. Recently released and made using modern analogue synths. For a taste of what he's like live I recommend the release of his set from the 2005 Nearfest festival called 'Storm Surge'. Any multimedia fans? He justed released a DVD/CD called Kairos, complete with amazing visuals. He just performed this live out in Tucson, AZ and it was one of the most amazing performances I've ever seen. This guy embodies contemporary, ethnic electronic trance. Highly recommended!!

+1 He delivers quality music every year. I love Proof Positive, it's probably the best sequencer-driven ambient album he've done, imo. Very trancy.

What's a good Steve Roach album to start off with? esp since he has so many...maybe something more melody driven.

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Originally posted by Spirit5 What's a good Steve Roach album to start off with? esp since he has so many...maybe something more melody driven.

you should try these:

Structures From Silence
Desert Solitaire
Mystic Chords And Sacred Spaces

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Originally posted by SMC you should try these: Structures From Silence Desert Solitaire Mystic Chords And Sacred Spaces

Thanks, I'll check those out. I've heard part of Structures From Silence, I believe it's one I almost bought a few years back...

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