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Posted by Playa24_7 on Sep-20-2006 11:18:

Question Windows Live Messenger

I'm wondering who uses the Windows Live Messenger. All these new features and stuff apparently, but who is actually using the new one? I had it for abit a month ago, then wen't back to the old one cause I wasn't use to the new interface and everything haha. I found it harder to see who was online, and who was away, because the status symbol is to small. I mean, it wasn't THAT hard, just bugged me lol. I'm thinking of switching to it though, to be able to send offline messages and stuff.

The thing is, I have a feeling alot of people haven't upgraded to this, so even if I download it, I may not be able to use the features cause no one else has the same one lol. Then if I try to get the old MSN Messenger 7.5 back, it will be hard to find it again lol.

http://get.live.com/messenger/features

Some features I like are that it time stamps messages, and you can send messages to people who are offline, like ICQ back in the day. Apparently you can do that with MSN Plus though.


Posted by English Rachel on Sep-20-2006 12:24:

I have the latest version of this and yes, it takes a bit of getting used to.

It also seems to have slowed my laptop down considerably.

Stick with the old one until they make it better - it has already had one update so hopefully, they will iron out any gremlins in the next couple of versions.


Posted by dEsidEL on Sep-20-2006 12:32:




with the exception of AIM, consider other IM's!

http://www.bigblueball.com/


Posted by klago on Sep-20-2006 12:34:

Where are all the miranda/trillan/googletalk fanboys?


Posted by E2EK1EL on Sep-20-2006 12:34:

Re: Windows Live Messenger

quote:
Originally posted by Playa24_7
I'm wondering who uses the Windows Live Messenger. All these new features and stuff apparently, but who is actually using the new one? I had it for abit a month ago, then wen't back to the old one cause I wasn't use to the new interface and everything haha. I found it harder to see who was online, and who was away, because the status symbol is to small. I mean, it wasn't THAT hard, just bugged me lol. I'm thinking of switching to it though, to be able to send offline messages and stuff.

The thing is, I have a feeling alot of people haven't upgraded to this, so even if I download it, I may not be able to use the features cause no one else has the same one lol. Then if I try to get the old MSN Messenger 7.5 back, it will be hard to find it again lol.

http://get.live.com/messenger/features

Some features I like are that it time stamps messages, and you can send messages to people who are offline, like ICQ back in the day. Apparently you can do that with MSN Plus though.


I've tried it on my buddy's comp awhile ago, looks nice and all. But I'm still using 7.5, I'm affriad it will suck up memory for nonsense.


Posted by ShadoWolf on Sep-20-2006 12:47:

Thumbs up

quote:
Originally posted by klago
Where are all the miranda/trillan/googletalk fanboys?





Posted by FunkyCrew on Sep-20-2006 13:05:

Re: Windows Live Messenger

quote:
Originally posted by Playa24_7
I'm wondering who uses the Windows Live Messenger. All these new features and stuff apparently, but who is actually using the new one? I had it for abit a month ago, then wen't back to the old one cause I wasn't use to the new interface and everything haha. I found it harder to see who was online, and who was away, because the status symbol is to small. I mean, it wasn't THAT hard, just bugged me lol. I'm thinking of switching to it though, to be able to send offline messages and stuff.

The thing is, I have a feeling alot of people haven't upgraded to this, so even if I download it, I may not be able to use the features cause no one else has the same one lol. Then if I try to get the old MSN Messenger 7.5 back, it will be hard to find it again lol.

http://get.live.com/messenger/features

Some features I like are that it time stamps messages, and you can send messages to people who are offline, like ICQ back in the day. Apparently you can do that with MSN Plus though.


i have a copy of installation package of 7.5, so don't worry Dan


Posted by ChrisD on Sep-20-2006 13:40:

cant use normal messenger from work, so instead, Im sneaky and use MSN Web Messenger!


Posted by SammyD on Sep-20-2006 13:43:

I got it last night, I just like how you can change the colours of more things in it. But I find it has made my lap top slow.


Posted by klago on Sep-20-2006 13:46:

I'm running Live, Task Manager tells me that mine is using 62MB of memory.

Firefox is using over 200MB.

Memory leak FTW!!!


Posted by rabbitjoker on Sep-20-2006 13:53:

I've been using Live Messenger since the beta days (well over 5 months) and it is awesome. Highly recommended.


Posted by Tranceplanted on Sep-20-2006 13:54:

quote:
Originally posted by klago
I'm running Live, Task Manager tells me that mine is using 62MB of memory.

Firefox is using over 200MB.

Memory leak FTW!!!


My messenger has never really used that much, but that said, I'd doubt I'd notice either way since I usually am running other things I know are killing my machine.

Firefox using 200+ MB isn't that remarkable, depending on how many tabs you have open. I think Opera has better memory usage and management with their tabbed browser.


Posted by CAKE on Sep-20-2006 13:57:

KarateKid

I like "Live" it did take some getting use too


Posted by RobSt*r on Sep-20-2006 13:57:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
I've been using Live Messenger since the beta days (well over 5 months) and it is awesome. Highly recommended.


+1

No complaints here.


Posted by klago on Sep-20-2006 14:03:

I usually have 5 to 7 tabs open.

I've seen firefox use up to half a gig of RAM. The memory usage is definately better with this version. I'm running 1.5.0.7 right now.


The Beta of version 2 is out there. I use it at home but am not a fan of the tab scrolly thing.


Posted by King Luis on Sep-20-2006 14:15:

i got live at home...i like it. does take up too much memory though.
but thats microsoft.


Posted by dEsidEL on Sep-20-2006 14:30:



seriously , is the additional memory consumption worth the extra emoticon .. ??


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Sep-20-2006 14:37:

Right now WML is using 30 megs of memory, which isn't much unless you have like 256 megs of RAM total. It runs fine even on my 512mb laptop. The thing is, in stock form, Messenger Live BLOWS. Ads, useless buttons, bad layout, stupid searchbars, etc etc all clutter the interface that it's nearly impossible to use. Luckily, there's the Mess patch from www.mess.be and Messenger Plus (google it). With both those patches installed, Messenger becomes a really nifty program to use. I would recommend trying Live with both those patches applied, and see if you like it; if you don't you can always roll back to 7.5.

I used to be a Trillian fanboy a few years ago, but then Messenger added a lot of features that only applied to MSN, and Trillian never caught up with them. Plus with the patches, I get a lot of the features Trillian users have, save for skinning support. Also, Trillian may eat less memory, but I remember it being A LOT slower than MSN.


Posted by ShadoWolf on Sep-20-2006 14:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I used to be a Trillian fanboy a few years ago, but then Messenger added a lot of features that only applied to MSN, and Trillian never caught up with them. Plus with the patches, I get a lot of the features Trillian users have, save for skinning support. Also, Trillian may eat less memory, but I remember it being A LOT slower than MSN.


There's a Plus plugin for Trillian.

http://www.trillian.cc/downloads/detail.php?item=253


Plus v. 3.1 has many of the features you alluded to (inc. video chat, etc.).


Posted by klago on Sep-20-2006 14:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Messenger Live BLOWS. Ads, useless buttons, bad layout, stupid searchbars, etc etc all clutter the interface that it's nearly impossible to use. Luckily, there's the Mess patch from www.mess.be and Messenger Plus (google it).


Messenger Plus can be found at www.patchou.com


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Sep-20-2006 14:53:

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
There's a Plus plugin for Trillian.

http://www.trillian.cc/downloads/detail.php?item=253


Plus v. 3.1 has many of the features you alluded to (inc. video chat, etc.).


That's not what I meant. I meant more like support for personal display names, and contact card integration.


Posted by Chris Allen on Sep-20-2006 15:15:

Been using messenger since original alpha stages for testing, then into beta, then public beta, etc. Currently on version 8.0.0812.

I find it much more stable than MSN 7.5. New features, meh, sure. Only one I really use is the type to find contact list and how if you're sending a file it doesn't snap back to the bottom all the time if you keep typing to that person. But they're nothing special other than that.

As for Trillian goes: I couldn't use it do to the major bugs that it had that they decided to never fix. It's a great program but some of the bugs just pushed me too far away. Currently, they're in beta testing stages for Trillian Astra (v.4). They will be hitting a public beta in the near future. Most likely by that time I will (hopefully) be on a Mac and will be using Adium.


Posted by SniFFleS on Sep-20-2006 15:38:

i cant use any of the new messengers, my computer is only allowing me to use the original windows messenger. The toubleshooting says everything is fine, has anyone else had this problem. Must be somehting to do with the internet settings.


Posted by dEsidEL on Sep-20-2006 16:08:



ICQ98a was the perfect IM and that was 8 years ago. sometimes i feel that technology has actually regressed society..


Posted by Fir3start3r on Sep-20-2006 16:13:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


ICQ98a was the perfect IM and that was 8 years ago. sometimes i feel that technology has actually regressed society..



Dood...that's ancient...

Of course the fact that I can still remember mine 1182766 is sad...

The new Windows Live Messenger is ok but I've had a few times where it just bugs out and crashes, although what Microsoft app doesn't?

Anyone have a way to get rid of that damn advert bar at the bottom of the main WLM window?


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