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Posted by discobiscuit on Sep-22-2006 05:49:

using the djm-800 w/ turntables?

I know with cdj1000's and a djm800 mixer, you get 100% digital sound (which i presume is pretty good). what if you combind the djm800 w/ standard tt's? how is the sound quality? i also love the idea of using the mixer as a midi for ableton (which i still have yet to buy..

thanx
bisco

ps. the tt's i have are numarktt500's..

Posted by Scolomon on Sep-22-2006 12:58:

Re: using the djm-800 w/ turntables?

quote:
Originally posted by discobiscuit
I know with cdj1000's and a djm800 mixer, you get 100% digital sound (which i presume is pretty good). what if you combind the djm800 w/ standard tt's? how is the sound quality? i also love the idea of using the mixer as a midi for ableton (which i still have yet to buy..

thanx
bisco

ps. the tt's i have are numarktt500's..

from what i understand the djm 800 sounds best with cdjs and it still sounds good with turntables but since A&H is analog, and less signals need to be converted that turntables sound better with an A&H mixer. Though this is what i have been told and i cant tell you from personal experience

Posted by Trance Nutter on Sep-22-2006 13:04:

you won't notice any difference. Most people won't. It'll sound good.

Posted by Trogdor on Sep-24-2006 05:01:

Apparently the phono preamps in the 800 aren't very good, and you'll have to CRANK up the gain on them, unfortunately. You'll also have to run the gain on your CDJs at a low level to match.

I've never experienced this firsthand, as I've never used an 800 hooked up to turntables (they're always hooked up to CDJs), but plenty of people have had this problem. There are some threads about it at www.pioneerprodjforums.com

Posted by Tsukai on Sep-25-2006 17:16:

I have 2 technics hooked up to my djm 800. Along with 1 cdj 800. I've had no problems so far, in fact, after getting my digital coax cable in, I had to adjust the gain on the cdj even more than the gain from technics. Regardless, they both sound amazing hooked up to the djm 800.

Posted by SPAWNmaster on Sep-25-2006 22:54:

trogdor knows best but theoretically with a lossless digital conversion you wont have any quality degrade...the signal should be identical to the output of the tt's except they route through the digital domain now with the 800.

Posted by epdarks on Sep-27-2006 05:10:

Really stupid noob question,

Do all of the effects still work w/ a non digital imput?

Trogdor,

Whats so bad about cranking the gain? Isnt that what its there for? Loss of sound quality?

Just trying to learn.

Posted by SPAWNmaster on Sep-27-2006 16:42:

quote:
Originally posted by epdarks
Really stupid noob question,

Do all of the effects still work w/ a non digital imput?

Trogdor,

Whats so bad about cranking the gain? Isnt that what its there for? Loss of sound quality?

Just trying to learn.

cranking the grain might create some distortion at higher levels...and yes the effects work on non digital inputs, the signal is converted to digital so the effects are applied within the circuit and not on the analog inputs.

Posted by Clovis on Sep-28-2006 00:34:

I've had a DJM-800 for a week and I can noticably tell the difference in sound between my xone. The xone just sounds better.

Also, the headphone jack's sound is alot clearer on the xone, the pioneer mixer as a whole seems to be pretty bass heavy.