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Posted by PSi on Mar-13-2002 15:34:

Exclamation Conspiracy?????

Read this....it made me think for a while

http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numer.../erreurs_en.htm


later
PSI


Posted by Lazgti on Mar-13-2002 15:56:

That is the first time I have heard that conspiracy theory...sounds realistic enough based on those pics...damn.

Plus, I have not actually seen any footage of the plane crashing into the pentagon. The WTC had tonnes of pics and videos...this just kind of paled in comparison I guess...but seriously though how does a plane hit a huge skyscraper and make it fall, yet a plane of similar magnitude hits the pentagon yet penetrates only the first ring...wierd


Posted by tu_face on Mar-13-2002 16:07:

the plane that hit wtc was a big passenger plane, it caused much fire.. the downfall of the building was the floor structure.. it relied on the floors for a lot of the strength.. one floor collapsed into another and another and another until eventually the building wasnt strong enough to support itself. i watched this on a program on TV about why it collapsed..

the pentagon was not damaged so much because the planewas a bit smaller & missed its target and hit the floor before the building.. thus not travelling at such a high speed. also the pentagon is a much sturdier building than the WTC and it will have very thick walls to protect itself from bomb attacks.. after all it is a military building.

as for this conspiracy theory.. to me it looks like a load of bollocks...

u americans are too scared of ur own people


Posted by flystyler on Mar-13-2002 16:14:

Yes tu_face is correct. It was on the tv last night. The first building to collapse, the second tower to be hit collapsed due to the fact that the floor supports gave way, and this ment that the outside of the building could not cope with the wait, this ment that the outside of the building buckled until the outside wall split, this lead to the floors pancaking down, that is why it came straight down, and not over like a tree.

The second tower to fall fell for a different reason. This fell due to the fact the inner core was toally ruined, and the fire prottection blown off on impact, so the inner core basically melted, and then this also lead to the core givving way and the building comming straight down.

They are now looking at why this has happened, and how they can stop it hapanining again. There is also worries about other scy scrappers that were built in the same way as the WTC. And fears that this could happen to other scy scrapers accross the world, built with the same technology as the one in nyc.

Hope that helps explain it a little, but the show was very factual. And was about an hour long. And made more sense than me


Posted by Az on Mar-13-2002 18:17:

thats really fucked up, I know they said the plane hit the ground first and skidded in, but to me the grass outside looks more the like the pitch of old trafford than a crash site. If it hit the ground first there'd be bits of wing and stuff everywhere, this has really made me think. Theres also a load of other things wrong with that day, cos sky news said there was another plane that got taken out (not the pittsburgh plane be4 anyone says, ANOTHER plane) before it could do anything, also said there was car bombs and stuff goin off in new york, can anyone shed any light on this or put me in my place??


Posted by SYNthSRI on Mar-13-2002 19:28:

*sigh*

people have too much time on their hands
the planes were also controlled via remote too

bleh


Posted by kolkiewolkie on Mar-14-2002 10:15:

WOW...

I never realised this.. but I unconsciously have been thinking the same: where the H3ll did that plane go?? 'cos you don't 'lose' tons and tons of steel that easily...and the plane indeed is MUCH wider (you can see this well if you compare it with the size of the trucks of the fire department..) and indeed no pieces at all...

but then again, the first argument is a bit uncertain to me... since 10 years ago in holland we had a plane chrasing right into an appartment building (15 floors high or so) and the buildings, although heavily damaged, suffered more from the fire after the collapsing then the actual crash...

still I can't figure out the width thingy and where the particles of the plane have gone...

weird..

greetz


Posted by biznology on Mar-14-2002 18:45:

quote:
Originally posted by kolkiewolkie
WOW...

I never realised this.. but I unconsciously have been thinking the same: where the H3ll did that plane go?? ....




late/


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Mar-14-2002 18:53:

^^^where's the plane? or is that the insinuation?


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Mar-14-2002 18:55:

Look very closely and you can see something flash from the right just before the explosion...


Posted by Fir3start3r on Mar-14-2002 19:08:

From the group that brought you back Elvis...


Posted by tiesto14 on Mar-14-2002 19:13:

that is a crock of shit......a plane hit the Pentagon...there is video of it happening.....why on earth would they lie....and to be honest who cares how it happened it happened...DEATH to Al Queda and Bin Laden....


Posted by Az on Mar-14-2002 19:16:

I can see the plane I can see the plane
no seriously you can see it skiddin be4 it hits
but in those pics the grass is completely untouched
weird


Posted by Az on Mar-14-2002 19:19:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
that is a crock of shit......a plane hit the Pentagon...there is video of it happening.....why on earth would they lie....and to be honest who cares how it happened it happened...DEATH to Al Queda and Bin Laden....

which video is that then??, The only thing I've seen is that gif file just there, and there is no evidence of a plane in those pics.
That is seriously fucked up tho


Posted by izzywillynilly on Mar-14-2002 19:57:

quote:
which video is that then??,


that gif was taken from the original video which captured the plane striking the pentagon.


Posted by tiesto14 on Mar-14-2002 20:01:

quote:
Originally posted by izzywillynilly


that gif was taken from the original video which captured the plane striking the pentagon.


EXACTLEY.....i saw the same vid...where u can see the plane right before it hits....


Posted by biznology on Mar-14-2002 20:09:

well thats just a gif, so it may have frames removed - but the security cam MAY have only taken pics every sec or something, making it look like there wasnt a plane. i doubt that tho, since its the pentagon. the reason i think that you cant see anything(in the wreckage) is b/c its a military, fortified structure. even bin laden didnt expect as much damage to the WTC...the pentagon is just actually protected. and you all saw the jets hit the TCs, they completely disintegrated - WHY would you find significant wreckage after a 600mph place crash?late/



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