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Bush: The Iraq war "will look like just a comma....."

To be fair, here's the full statement from Bush's interview with Blitzer:

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BLITZER: Let's move on and talk a little bit about Iraq. Because this is a huge, huge issue, as you know, for the American public, a lot of concern that perhaps they are on the verge of a civil war, if not already a civil war�. We see these horrible bodies showing up, tortured, mutilation. The Shia and the Sunni, the Iranians apparently having a negative role. Of course, al Qaeda in Iraq is still operating. BUSH: Yes, you see � you see it on TV, and that's the power of an enemy that is willing to kill innocent people. But there's also an unbelievable will and resiliency by the Iraqi people�. Admittedly, it seems like a decade ago. I like to tell people when the final history is written on Iraq, it will look like just a comma because there is � my point is, there's a strong will for democracy. http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/8551.html

Ya know, I actually think I know what Bush means or tried to mean by this statement. Nevertheless, what a fucking blatantly dismissal and ignorant thing to say.

Let's see if I can set this up correctly - best case scenario in Bushworld: Iraq becomes a true Democracy and allied with the U.S. and other democratic regions around the world. We did exactly what Bush wanted to accomplish in the region comma (at least 2700 American men and women died, 20,000 serious injuries {ya know, limbs blown off for good}, somewhere around 100,000 civilians killed overall, and the
threat of terrorism against Americans has become much worse /comma, but we won!

That's just peachy, ain't it?

that must suck to hang on every breath of the President.

even i don't do that. thats sayin somthing

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Originally posted by Q5echo that must suck to hang on every breath of the President. even i don't do that. thats sayin somthing

I think what he says in this statement says quite enough.

And forgive me for taking the context of our President's words and trying to understand his rationale for such context. That must be yet another strange concept - questioning and attempting to understand this President's rationale rather than blindly accept his authoritarianism, but I guess I just can't help myself.....

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 That's just peachy, ain't it?

I know this is going to sound corny, and despite the fact I'm not a fan of this whole war in Iraq I will say this:

Freedom isn't free.

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Originally posted by jdat I know this is going to sound corny, and despite the fact I'm not a fan of this whole war in Iraq I will say this: Freedom isn't free.

Neither is a McDonald's cheeseburger, but at least I know how much I need to pay for it, how far I need to drive to get it, how much it's going to gurgle my stomach along with that milkshake after I eat it, and I don't have to pretend to myself or anyone else that I'm eating a healthy lite fresh garden salad instead.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Neither is a McDonald's cheeseburger, but at least I know how much I need to pay for it, how far I need to drive to get it, how much it's going to gurgle my stomach along with that milkshake after I eat it, and I don't have to pretend to myself or anyone else that I'm eating a healthy lite fresh garden salad instead.

ok you're comparing the ideals of freedom and democracy to a cheeseburger. i've seen HardcoreTrancer make better arguments.

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Originally posted by Q5echo ok you're comparing the ideals of freedom and democracy to a cheeseburger. i've seen HardcoreTrancer make better arguments.

It was right in front of me. Had to think quick on an empty stomach with food in front of my nose........

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 It was right in front of me. Had to think quick on an empty stomach with food in front of my nose........

That food is going to kill ya man.......

Iraq will never have a democracy, and Iraq will never be an ally of US. Comma or no comma.

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Originally posted by Purple Iraq will never have a democracy, and Iraq will never be an ally of US. Comma or no comma.

This is the type of statement no one is able to make regardless of their position.


All I hope is that somehow the situation gets stable over there and that this whole mess wasn't in vain.

I dont think Iraq will ever chose Democracy. My points stated a year back in this thread:

Link

If Bush thinks he can bring democracy to Iraq in his lifetime he is lunatic.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 To be fair, here's the full statement from Bush's interview with Blitzer: Ya know, I actually think I know what Bush means or tried to mean by this statement. Nevertheless, what a fucking blatantly dismissal and ignorant thing to say. Let's see if I can set this up correctly - best case scenario in Bushworld: Iraq becomes a true Democracy and allied with the U.S. and other democratic regions around the world. We did exactly what Bush wanted to accomplish in the region comma (at least 2700 American men and women died, 20,000 serious injuries {ya know, limbs blown off for good}, somewhere around 100,000 civilians killed overall, and the threat of terrorism against Americans has become much worse /comma, but we won! That's just peachy, ain't it?

...the American civil war certainly brought more pain than that, but you won't find too many people complaining about that today...

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r ...the American civil war certainly brought more pain than that, but you won't find too many people complaining about that today...

The South will rise again!!!








In 2 years and change, I fully expect the tables to be reversed (though Opus does not. Perhaps he just enjoys being a protagonist!). Assuming the same core members are still here, I predict this: When that time comes, we will have lefties on this message board praising the shortcomings of Hillary Clinton while the righties will correctly call her every four letter word in the dictionary. The phase, "Catch You Next Tuesday" will be used with increasing frequency and regularity. Hugo Chavez will stand in front of the U.N. praising the merits of The Devil Wears Prada which will promptly go to #2 on the Amazon Best Seller List. Air America will be resurrected from bankruptcy. Ethanol will prove to be more hype than practical solution. I will still eat meat and PETA will continue to suck. My income tax rate will increase.

And somewhere, at some point, depending on how bad it gets, John Galt will ponder whether or not it is time.

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Originally posted by Shakka In 2 years and change, I fully expect the tables to be reversed (though Opus does not. Perhaps he just enjoys being a protagonist!). Assuming the same core members are still here, I predict this: When that time comes, we will have lefties on this message board praising the shortcomings of Hillary Clinton while the righties will correctly call her every four letter word in the dictionary. The phase, "Catch You Next Tuesday" will be used with increasing frequency and regularity. Hugo Chavez will stand in front of the U.N. praising the merits of The Devil Wears Prada which will promptly go to #2 on the Amazon Best Seller List. Air America will be resurrected from bankruptcy. Ethanol will prove to be more hype than practical solution. I will still eat meat and PETA will continue to suck. My income tax rate will increase. And somewhere, at some point, depending on how bad it gets, John Galt will ponder whether or not it is time.

As much as I'd like to believe you...

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Originally posted by Shakka The South will rise again!!! In 2 years and change, I fully expect the tables to be reversed (though Opus does not. Perhaps he just enjoys being a protagonist!). Assuming the same core members are still here, I predict this: When that time comes, we will have lefties on this message board praising the shortcomings of Hillary Clinton while the righties will correctly call her every four letter word in the dictionary. The phase, "Catch You Next Tuesday" will be used with increasing frequency and regularity. Hugo Chavez will stand in front of the U.N. praising the merits of The Devil Wears Prada which will promptly go to #2 on the Amazon Best Seller List. Air America will be resurrected from bankruptcy. Ethanol will prove to be more hype than practical solution. I will still eat meat and PETA will continue to suck. My income tax rate will increase. And somewhere, at some point, depending on how bad it gets, John Galt will ponder whether or not it is time.

Oooooohhhhh, you're making me drool........

Okay, seriously, I'd poke out my left nutsack with my cat's own claws if Hillary becomes Pres. Still not a fan, though if the choice became the lesser of two evils I guess my back would be against the wall.

Someone will get her in the primaries. Please? God Almighty please?

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Okay, seriously, I'd poke out my left nutsack with my cat's own claws if Hillary becomes Pres.

DAMN THAT WOULD HURT!!! ouch

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r ...the American civil war certainly brought more pain than that, but you won't find too many people complaining about that today...

Umm, yeah, well Mr. Starter, I hate to break the news to you, but that kinda sorta had to deal with another country. Namely, ours. Slightly different aspect when you are fighting one another here versus being misled to fight an ill-conceived war over elsewhere, let alone leave the leader of a group that attacked us to fight that fucked up war over there.

And hey Shakka, I'm always hopeful on better things, but intelligence reports like the recent NIE as well as others that depict Iraq going to shit speak well enough on their own. Thinking happy thoughts over here with our shiny red slippers has not brought us any further to the end goal, uhh, whatever that supposed measurable marker may actually be (anyone know yet?).

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Umm, yeah, well Mr. Starter, I hate to break the news to you, but that kinda sorta had to deal with another country. Namely, ours. Slightly different aspect when you are fighting one another here versus being misled to fight an ill-conceived war over elsewhere, let alone leave the leader of a group that attacked us to fight that fucked up war over there.

Exactly my point.
A civil war was much worse...

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