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MP3 - VBR vs 320 kps - Poll!

What do you like more, for mp3 encoding?


I personal love 320 kps, HD spaces ain't a problem anymore for many ppl. Some might say the human ear can't hear a diff, b/c of some freq. levels and etc. But, honestly, I can hear a major diff. Find the same track and compaire them, but you must use high quality headphones for this little test, not a stereo or sound blaster type systems.

mp3 is lossy in general. VBR should be just fine, since the theory of it works out fine in my eyes. why use extra bitrate when you have miniscule frequencies pumping. but just in case, keep the minimum bitrate at 192 :P. anyhooo, i find VBR totally acceptable.

192 is just fine, no difference between 192 and 320
both sound almost identical because like msz mentioned mp3 is a lossy format anyways

320 if at all possible.. I'm pretty particular about that.

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Originally posted by Jer. 320 if at all possible.. I'm pretty particular about that.

and no vinyl rips either!

I have not heard of this VBR.

However, regarding bitrates, I use 320 because I am a stubborn bastard. With the right speakers, ripping software, and levels you can tell the difference, but that's not so common. 246 is probably enough that I can't tell anymore but the quality settings not as high as they can go just doesn't sit right with me.

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Originally posted by geroin no difference between 192 and 320

crazy talk

192, or even 256kbps makes the most sense because you really cant differentiate from 192/256/320 anyways so why bother encoding that high, vbr makes sense as a theory but in practise it isnt really all its cracekd up to be. if you really want to feel like your mp3s are top quality then rip it off the vinyl yourself using lame -alt preset extreme which will give you vbr mp3s that range from 256-320 bitrate


oh main reason i prefer cbr over vbr, many devices such as mp3 players phones etc have a hard time reading vbr files. i alwaus have to convert them to cbr so annoying

320.... if i cant tell the difference. but there is a differnce.. and 320 is better.. ill stick to 320 weather i can notice it or not..


i like to think i can notice the difference. but who knows. iv never really sat down and listend to the same track 320 and vbr... so i cant tell.

I use 128.

WAV FTW.

I don't like anything that�s VBR. I prefer 320 but I will play files as low as 192.

any truth to this?

http://www.tribemagazine.com/board/...?threadid=77124

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Originally posted by jon jon crazy talk

yeah trust me, it only would be noticebale on a crazy sound system,
192 is 95% identical to a cd quality but twice as small as 320
since everyone has high speed nowadays it shouldn't matter anyways but back a year or two ago 192 would do fine.

there is some distortion on a louder system when using 192...

i usually get my tunes from beatport at 320. has anyone ever ordered the wav format cds from them....are they worth the shipping fee?

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Originally posted by samhouse has anyone ever ordered the wav format cds from them....are they worth the shipping fee?

wav on a cd is exact same thing as a 320 kbs mp3 if they come from the same source (i'm talking quality wise)

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320....

cos VBR is usually a problem on DJ CD players

Actually,
I think mp3s are different.

The MPEG layer 3 (MP3) encoding format takes the raw WAVE audio file and compresses it using a Fourier Transformation. A fourier transformation keeps the same amount of data, but uses less space. If you know a little bit about it, it has to do with superimposing many different frequencies to make a single signal. The single signal contains all the data of all the harmonics, but its "smaller" in size.

The same way an MP3 encodes the audio file. I dont know too much about this, but I belive WAV compressed into mp3 of 128-192kbps contain the same amount of data as 1000+ kbps encoded WAV. Increasing encoding to 320kbps from 192kbps in an mp3 increases the amount of data space used for the audio file but it still has the same data (much like digital zoom, no matter how much you zoom, you still contain the same old data). Recording in wave and encoding in 192 mp3, these files contain the 'true' recorded sound. Much like how a BMP picture contains all the true colours and pixels of an image, without compression. The actual 'quality' of sound comes in the sample rate, 44kHz standard. The faster you sample, the 'truer' sound you can record from whatever instrument is making the sound. The higher the sampling, the more 'quality' data you will have to store in whatever data space you assign it. So if you record with say 92KHz sample rate, on a 320 kbps mp3 encoded file, this will sound better in quality, than copying a file from an audio cd and encoding it to 320kbps. (because CDs are usually burned from a 128kbps recording, 44kHz)

etc

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Originally posted by El Kay Dee 320.... cos VBR is usually a problem on DJ CD players

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Originally posted by geroin 192 is just fine, no difference between 192 and 320 both sound almost identical because like msz mentioned mp3 is a lossy format anyways

play them on a decent sound system in a club.. and there's a big difference

wav

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Originally posted by activate play them on a decent sound system in a club.. and there's a big difference

the difference between 320kbps mp3s and WAVs however is barely noticible to anyone other than the producer of the track

Without a doubt WAV or FLAC Lossless is the only way to go. MP3's = Compressed audio. Most people can't hear the difference between 320k MP3 vs. uncompressed 1400k WAV. However, anytime you compress anything especially audio you will always have some loss in quality, its just a matter of who can hear the difference since the human ear has a hard time distinguishing the two

Being a frequent buyer on Beatport... I must say there are only certain songs I have been able to see a significant difference in quality and I think its mainly based on the production of the track in the first place... if it was produced and recorded in a million dollar studio than your more than likely going to have one of the highest quality tracks when its pressed for vinyl/cd release..

320 Kbps is what i voted for, but .OGG IMO is by far th cleanest sounding format...

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