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On average how long does it take to cue up a track.........

i think i suck at beatmatching because i dont put the effort into cuing my tracks properly.

dont tell me it takes 20 seconds

It takes as long as it takes. Sometimes you can nail it completely tight in under 10 seconds, other times you might spend the duration of the other track getting it right, which could be 6 minutes.

Just take your time, relaxing is the most important. Practice makes perfect but once you're perfect - you'll always be that way, its like riding a bike.

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Originally posted by Pete_B It takes as long as it takes. Sometimes you can nail it completely tight in under 10 seconds, other times you might spend the duration of the other track getting it right, which could be 6 minutes. Just take your time, relaxing is the most important. Practice makes perfect but once you're perfect - you'll always be that way, its like riding a bike.

whats the simplist way to mix a track.......

killing bass then brining in the cued track??

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Originally posted by TheNeonAlien whats the simplist way to mix a track....... killing bass then brining in the cued track??

I just spent a few minutes trying to think of an intelligent answer to this, and couldn't come up with one that satisfied me. There are definitely more simplistic methods of mixing, but I'm not sure that there's a single answer to this. There are a lot of aspects to mixing records, and I guess a crossfade could be considered one of the "simplest" way to mix, but it is certainly no way to mix well.

What kind of mixing are you talking about/hoping to achieve?

Alright, I don't know if this will help at all, but here goes...

Essentially the simplest way to mix two tracks is to practice - Overstating the obvious, yes, however I think you'd be hard pressed to find a "simple" solution with respect to how to mix two tunes. With practice, you'll learn in time just what you need to do to mix each record you have, whether it be quick bassline swapping, long drawn out & solidly beatmatched mixing, quick fader slams, etc.

The best way to learn to mix well is to learn to mix diversely, and the only way that will happen is practice, practice, practice.

Apologies if this didn't answer your question, I'm sure one of the far more qualified posters in the booth could answer you more sufficiently. Cheers!

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Originally posted by TheNeonAlien whats the simplist way to mix a track....... killing bass then brining in the cued track??

the simplest way is to know your tracks.

depending on what kind of music you're mixing...it may call for different types of mixing styles, ie. blending, straight cut, etc.


if you're talking strictly about beatmatching...just keep working at it, and it will come to you.


when you've got it locked down, beatmatching on the fly is as easy as drinking a beer.

hate to say it, but if you don't put any effort into it... what the hell is the point?

cueing up a phrase, about 10 seconds, cueing up the right one? depends, i gotta listen to the track some.

I still take up to 5 mins to properly cue a track. Just takes a lot of practice.

As for actual mixing the track, think 'blend'. Give yourself plenty of time to mix in the next track, at least 1 min but preferably 1 and half min. Once you get the concept of phrases and little spots in the track where you can bring up the bass of next track and little other things like that, it'll be more smoother.

to cue a track? like to push the cue button on the beat you want to start out with? that takes like 2 seconds...


to beatmatch it... i dunno to get around the vicinity (sp) of the correct bpm about 8 seconds... to get it good.. maybe 15 or 20 more seconds... maybe 2 minutes..... depends on the track really. im shure poeple who use turntables it takes more.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller hate to say it, but if you don't put any effort into it... what the hell is the point?

lol......little misunderstood.

i usually think i have a track cued properly only to have it sway 30 seconds in.

little anxious to get tracks mixing at the right times.

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Originally posted by TheNeonAlien lol......little misunderstood. i usually think i have a track cued properly only to have it sway 30 seconds in. little anxious to get tracks mixing at the right times.

It happens often. That's why you adjust...

Once I have the track beatmatched, I usually keep it going for at least another minute or so to make sure it doesn't wander. If it does, I'll generally adjust accordingly until I'm confident with how well it's matched.

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Originally posted by nchs09 to cue a track? like to push the cue button on the beat you want to start out with? that takes like 2 seconds... to beatmatch it... i dunno to get around the vicinity (sp) of the correct bpm about 8 seconds... to get it good.. maybe 15 or 20 more seconds... maybe 2 minutes..... depends on the track really. im shure poeple who use turntables it takes more.

my sets are generally 95-98% vinyl...and it certainly doesn't take more than 10-20 seconds to beatmatch on the fly for me.

not that i'm great or anything...and i hope to get better...but technic turntables are easier for me than cdj's, and that's due to the practice, i suppose.

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Originally posted by chubbs Once I have the track beatmatched, I usually keep it going for at least another minute or so to make sure it doesn't wander. If it does, I'll generally adjust accordingly until I'm confident with how well it's matched.

Same here. Obvious when you think about it but one bit of advice that might help - you only need to keep the beats lined up for as long as the transition will be when you mix the tracks live ...so when cueing up don't worry if they start to step outta line after the point where you'll have ditched the first track

Try listening to a lot of mixsets, I had no one to teach me anything & I found it a great help to hear how the pros do things. I still do it now

Oh yeah, to answer your question: between 10 & 30 seconds, sometimes more for them horrible fuzzy noisy tracks. With a bit of fine tuning after that

Keep practicing m8 soon you'll be cueing up tracks during breakdowns when there's no actual beats to line up with.

i think a set get rather boring if you keep the same mixing style throughout...case in point with hip hop...its boring if the dj just keeps on mixing tracks by simple blending...but when the dj throws in scratches, backspins, phasing, and doubling...then things get interesting and fun...

To Cue up a Track it takes about 10 seconds in General, sometimes less, and sometimes more time, but That's what it takes in general for me.

if You have CDJ's, you need to knwo where do you want to cue it up.

if you mix in the range of 125 BPM and 140 BPM,
128 beats will be around 53 to 62 seconds.
64 beats will be around 26 to 31 seconds.
32 beats will be around 13 to 16 seconds.

if you know your track, you can just fast forward aprroximately this times were you want to mix your track, and you will get it quickly.

If I cue on the first beat, that takes no time in general, beacuse the CDJ's have auto cue.


Hope this helps

Mario

I agree with different transitions for different tracks. And Trance Android brings up a good point. Every time I listen to a liveset I try to listen to the transitions to pick up pointers.

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Originally posted by miamitranceman I agree with different transitions for different tracks. And Trance Android brings up a good point. Every time I listen to a liveset I try to listen to the transitions to pick up pointers.

Though it's getting harder & harder thanks to Ableton

Seriously

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Originally posted by Pinokio if you mix in the range of 125 BPM and 140 BPM, 128 beats will be around 53 to 62 seconds. 64 beats will be around 26 to 31 seconds. 32 beats will be around 13 to 16 seconds. if you know your track, you can just fast forward aprroximately this times were you want to mix your track, and you will get it quickly. If I cue on the first beat, that takes no time in general, beacuse the CDJ's have auto cue. Hope this helps Mario

quite an interesting theory, though it really is down to how the track is structured

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