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Alex Jones - Terror Storm 2006 video (google)

Alex Jones ... government lies and coverups ... overwhelming and undeniable evidence of the crimes committed against people around the world ... all come together in this great video.

Check this amazing vid, and please post comments, its making shockwaves all over the world, it actually cracked the google's top 10 videos list, and they reset the ratings after that - those bastards ...

Anyhow, here's the link:



Google videos link:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?do...ex+jones+terror

Another great Alex Jones video. Best source of conspiracy-related material with the strongest facts to back it.

alex jones is a fuckhead.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN alex jones is a fuckhead.

Why? Why do you refuse to acknowledge the countless red flags and crimes governments and corporations have committed against ordinary citizens?

EDIT: I removed some words cause its too early to be harsh on someone who obviously doesnt know what he's talking about when calling Alex Jones an idiot.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Why? Is it because you are very ignorant and refuse to acknowledge the countless red flags and crimes governments and corporations have committed against ordinary citizens?

no, its because he has been responsible for many of the lies, poor research and suspect analysis related to the 9/11 conspiracies. the way in which he has cherry-picked his "facts" and then misrepresented them screams intellectual fraud.

of course, you would know this if you'd bothered to do any research that contradicted jones, but of course you haven't because youre like the rest of the conspiracy theorists we see on here: so one-eyed its not funny

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN no, its because he has been responsible for many of the lies, poor research and suspect analysis related to the 9/11 conspiracies. the way in which he has cherry-picked his "facts" and then misrepresented them screams intellectual fraud. of course, you would know this if you'd bothered to do any research that contradicted jones, but of course you haven't because youre like the rest of the conspiracy theorists we see on here: so one-eyed its not funny

Alright, tell me one aspect that you disagree with, especially with this video. Tell me.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Alright, tell me one aspect that you disagree with, especially with this video. Tell me.

im not going to watch the video, because i dont find jones a credible expert. but, i will post some comparisons between jones and other experts in a little bit when ive finished my work duties for the morning.

stay tuned.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN im not going to watch the video, because i dont find jones a credible expert. but, i will post some comparisons between jones and other experts in a little bit when ive finished my work duties for the morning. stay tuned.

LOL, I am sorry, but thats not credible. You are going to compare his observations with those of other "experts" - that's a contradiction. I didnt ask for your comparisons to other "experts". Unless you believe only in government agreeing research. I asked you to point your own views. I dont need to read a huge story, I've read thoroughly both sides of the story, and now with school i dont have a lot of spare time.

Let me rephrase that: please tell me what you disagree with now, and you can tell me about the other experts maybe later.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Let me rephrase that: please tell me what you disagree with now, and you can tell me about the other experts maybe later.

i am merely going to show you the way in which jones manipulates evidence to suit his views and deliberately misleads his readers.

^^^
Alright ... I'll give this a chance, even though I am sceptical, but I am open minded.

I am looking forward other reviews, opinions, and hopefully some supportive/positive responses as well.

Magnetonium, next time you want to post a google/you-tube video, try embedding it like this .

EDIT: Embedded video edited out due to redundancy.

I've saw this before it was even out. It's definetly a good one, probably his best, least sensationalized documentaries so far. I especially like the interviews with the MI-5 agents and Ray McGovern, and his analysis of 7-7.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I've saw this before it was even out. It's definetly a good one, probably his best, least sensationalized documentaries so far. I especially like the interviews with the MI-5 agents and Ray McGovern, and his analysis of 7-7.

Nice, nice. I was actually able to obtain a high-quality video of this from my friends at PrisonPlanet.com .

Nice to see you on this forum, its good to have some open minded people ;-) Keep up the good work. I recommend you to check out the Future Of Food video link on the other thread


I am changing it to the format you specified ... Cheers. Expecting your posts there !

^^ The part that kind of shocked me was fiding out about covert intelligence/military/false flag operation in Europe. I thought the West (the US in this case) only screwed over the 3rd world.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z ^^ The part that kind of shocked me was fiding out about covert intelligence/military/false flag operation in Europe. I thought the West (the US in this case) only screwed over the 3rd world.

Even in a book DAY AFTER ROSWELL by Philip Corso, the author details his involvement in Italy to instigate bombing campaigns to blame it on the communists.

And that guy has credibility - he worked for many years in the Pentagon, working on the secret files of the elitest branches of the US military under at least 3 presidents in the highest branches of the Pentagon.

im retarded. alex jones, steven jones. i get confused i dont have any specific argument like i suggested before. but i have seen some of alex jones' vids/essays before, and the simple fact that there is a link to "loose change" on his website shows that he isn't all that good at providing accurate & well-researched information.

but i'll watch that video after work.

you guys act like the US is the only country in the world to conduct espionage grow up.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN im retarded. alex jones, steven jones. i get confused i dont have any specific argument like i suggested before. but i have seen some of alex jones' vids/essays before, and the simple fact that there is a link to "loose change" on his website shows that he isn't all that good at providing accurate & well-researched information. but i'll watch that video after work.

Please let me know what you found of concern that you disagreed with. Thanks!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN you guys act like the US is the only country in the world to conduct espionage grow up.

No, not really. Its just USA is the world's most powerful and influential country, so a lot of things done in the world are associated with USA. So thats why! We are all affected.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN alex jones is a fuckhead.

That's a pretty harsh statement. indicating intense negative sentiments. I don't remember you, or anyone else I've know, ever hating someone for incompetence. On the other hand, I do know people who get really pissed off when their world view is threatened . Strong/foul language, in many cases, comes across as insecurity, not effective criticism.

I'm no Alex Jones sheep (trust me, there's tons of them out there!) but I think your statement is a little unfair.

EDIT: Whoops. I just posted this after you posted again (regarding the earlier statement), so you can disregard it if it doesn't apply.

yeah, steven jones is a fuckhead. no respect for someone whose research is just THAT poor and dishonest.

for the most part shaolin, i dont really have a "world view" to be honest. im all over the place in terms of ideology, and am more than happy to recant positions when provided with substantial evidence to the contrary.

however bad some of my positions or arguments have been, i do the best that i can in presenting and researching those positions. but im not sure people like alex jones do the same. ie loose change is full of bad bad bad evidence and assumptions, yet alex still links to it from his website?

its the ideologues like alex jones that have a world view, and always come to the table from a particular perspective. i know what this is like, coz i used to be just as bad. you know, my long stint as a rabid marxist taught me a lot about perspective. and those that champion this underground war where the US is always wrong just dont have a lot of credibility for me. theyre too quick to believe things that fit into their world view without viewing it critically.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN you guys act like the US is the only country in the world to conduct espionage grow up.

State sponsored terrorism and false flag operations, especially with the intention of acheiving a more favorable political/economic climate, isn't exactly espionage.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN for the most part shaolin, i dont really have a "world view" to be honest. im all over the place in terms of ideology, and am more than happy to recant positions when provided with substantial evidence to the contrary.

Umm... You have a world view, regardless of wheather or not you believe in an ideology of any type . I'm actually kind of confused as to why you said you "don't really have a world view."


From wiki:

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What is a worldview? First, it is important to understand that everyone has a worldview. Our worldview is our framework for viewing reality. It is like a pair of glasses. Everything we see or think about is filtered by our worldview. It is not merely a "religious" perspective, it covers all areas of reality: music, literature, math, biology, medicine, God, politics, etc. Recognizing your worldview is very important since it affects how you interact with reality. Also, is your worldview consistent? Does what you think correspond with reality? If it does not you have a real problem.

This Jones guy reminds me of Art Bell, you remember Art Bell right? The guy that stated that thier was a space ship behind the Hale_Bop Comet.
actually it was Chuck Schramek on Art's show that stated it. Bless Chuck's soul, he was just an amature that took a pic that showed a light sorce from behind the comet.... Art and several others, even the media at the time, took off with the story....
kind of like this 9-11 CTs. No not kind of, A lot like:
Loons

I see they wear Tin Foil hats as well in "mother russia" as well.



edited for you young uns: I just realized that some of you might have been like 9 or 10 years old when ol Hale-Bopp came around:

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Comet Hale-Bopp (formally designated C/1995 O1) was probably the most widely observed comet of the 20th century, and one of the brightest seen for many decades. It was visible to the naked eye for a record 18 months, twice as long as the previous record holder, the Great Comet of 1811. Hale-Bopp was discovered on 23 July 1995 at a very large distance from the Sun, raising expectations that the comet could become very bright when it passed close to the Sun. Although comet brightnesses are very difficult to predict with any degree of accuracy, Hale-Bopp met or exceeded most predictions for its brightness when it passed perihelion on April 1, 1997. The comet was dubbed the Great Comet of 1997. The passage of Hale-Bopp was notable also for inciting a degree of panic about comets not seen for decades. Rumours that the comet was being followed by an alien spacecraft gained remarkable currency, and inspired a mass suicide among followers of the Heaven's Gate cult.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Umm... You have a world view, regardless of wheather or not you believe in an ideology of any type . I'm actually kind of confused as to why you said you "don't really have a world view." From wiki:

ok, point taken. perhaps i do have a world view! but, someone isnt born with a world view. thus it must be learnt. meaning, at some stage in one's life they are still creating it for themselves, thus there must be some ignorance there somewhere at some stage.

i think when approaching a new topic (such as conspiracy theories) a degree of ignorance is actually a good thing, because your world view isn't putting your blinkers on.

i guess what im arguing is that surely you can come across topics from time to time that arent automatically prefaced by your world view??

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