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Technics reign possibly over?
Technics has been the work horse of the industry for some time now, but there is possibly a new king coming to the throne. Now you are all gonna laugh when you here this... the new turntables are by Numark. Numark is a fairly well known name as far as dj equipment goes but they have always lacked the quality and the durability of other companys. Now from what I am hearing/reading from prominent DJ's this is all changed with the new Numark TTX1's. They arent to be released til the end of march but you can check them out at www.ttx1.com. I would like to hear your thoughts on these decks.
dude...that thing looks really kick ass....id love to give em a try....damn...3.2 ft/lbs of torque...thats like...double the techs torque....really sweet lookin design too....very impressive....also id like to add for everybody that i played with a cdj1000 today, and that thing is AMAZING!!!!!!!!! thinkin bout sellin off my techs, keepin ma denons and convertin ma vinyl to cd....ahhhh, the possibilites are endless....of course id still buy vinyl...just burn the tunes to cd and have them forever!!!!
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not bad, not bad.. but many MANY people over look some monster tables that are already out,, the Vestax PDX-8000 .. fully digital tables, .. the red case is a little.. akward looking, but they really seem good. check em out if you get a chance, I have personally never used them.
The start-up torque is AMAZING. 3.7kgf/cm is almost instantaneous!
The "Multidimensional" pitch control options are very interesting, and so is the interchangeable tonearm, but I wonder if these extremely customisable functiuons will lead to potential problems. Pitch sensitivity might deteriorate, for instance?
Functions galore- onboard BPM counter, +-10, 20 and 50% pitch variance, key lock and reverse. Don't see a need for most of them.
This is ground-breaking technology, though, and I think this deserves some attention.
i have the the numark Axis 8's and i love'm
hmm.. looks expensive.. thats all i can say
Let me just say, Who gives a shit about startup torque?
SUSTAINED torque is what's needed, not startup torque. And I seriously doubt whether these Numarks can hold up to Technics in this department (I'm speculating here, I can't see the link you gave because Flash isn't on this Solaris machine I'm using).
How many times did manufacturers promise to have a better TT and weren't able to keep their promise? Techs have been the standard for about 20 years now. It's pretty difficult to break standards you know. Even if they manage to release something that kicks the Tech into oblivion, it would take years before the majority of clubs/gigs/... will accept the new device as a standard.
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| Originally posted by DJTJ Let me just say, Who gives a shit about startup torque? SUSTAINED torque is what's needed, not startup torque. And I seriously doubt whether these Numarks can hold up to Technics in this department (I'm speculating here, I can't see the link you gave because Flash isn't on this Solaris machine I'm using). |
Just out of curiosity, why is torque so important? How many times during a set do you start and stop your decks? Something along the lines of .. umm ... zero? So why would you go around and brag about specifications that aren't significant to begin with? I'd much rather see (try out for myself, that is) how accurate the pitch is and how much wow and flutter the motor has, and how durable the deck is before "dethroning" Technics. BTW. how can you possibly talk about durability when this deck isn't out yet !? HAHAHA. Don't believe the hype
Correct me if I am wrong all along, but I have always thought start-up torque was important in cueing.. I mean, you wouldn't want to have a TT that has such a disasterous start-up torque that you would have to resort to "pushing" the first beat along just to keep up with the PGM record during mixing? Having said that, though, I'm in agreement that standards are hard to supress.. the interchangeable pitch positions are all fanciful stuff IMO; what's important should be the start-up torque, the sustained torque (as mentioned by DJTJ), and pitch accuracy.
Startup torque is the torque the motor develops when you push the 'Start' button on your deck. As far as I'm concerned, this number is totally insignificant because you don't cue and release your record by pushing the button.
Sustained torque is needed to overcome the friction between the slipmat and the platter surface. Once this force is large enough, any further increase wouldn't really matter because the slipmat would slip anyway, so again I don't see why this is such a big deal. The 'pushing' part when you first release the record would still be necessary because you need to help the slipmat get up to the platter speed (remember the only thing that's standing still is the slipmat, NOT the platter) so even with nuclear-powered decks with 5000 KG/cm torque you'd still have to nudge the record when releasing it.
Just to clear up a few posts that I read... DJ's are stating that witht these decks you can get those real small bpm changes a lot more accuratly. Also they have been doing blind tests and DJ's are all picking the numark table over the 1200's. The average cost for these decks is about $475-$500.
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| Originally posted by Veldrid Also they have been doing blind tests and DJ's are all picking the numark table over the 1200's. |
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My friends
I Believe some of you are being fooled by the great look and I agree with DJ Dawn here,
you cant make a blind test simply because the two turntables looks different.
Anyway, for my opinion the torque is not so important, again ill have to agree with DJTJ that what matters is the sustained torque, simply beacuse you dont cue a record with pressing play and stop, its not a CDJ...
I think that about wraps it up, guys. TECHS REIGN SUPREME
torque is important... and people worry about it too much cuz its easy to put a number on.
but like it was said, there reaches a point when torque is plenty. once you got enough to skid the slipmat, you've got enough. this is the case with a technics.
what you REALLY want to worry about, is STABILITY! how good the table holds it's speed during a mix!!
-mer
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| Originally posted by Dj Thy How many times did manufacturers promise to have a better TT and weren't able to keep their promise? Techs have been the standard for about 20 years now. It's pretty difficult to break standards you know. Even if they manage to release something that kicks the Tech into oblivion, it would take years before the majority of clubs/gigs/... will accept the new device as a standard. |
Ever thought about it they are sponsored by Stanton...
Besides, MoS is more a showoff club, they want all the newest stuff just to be able to show their prestige. MoS isn't really the club you must uphold as the standard, they change their gear more often than anyone else.
well.. keylock at least is something that would be very nice if it ever worked right.. i wonder if this thing's got digital outputs since there definitely are dsp's inside it.. that would rock too.
I think this one has digital output. It's increasingly becoming a turntable must-have.
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| Originally posted by DJTJ Let me just say, Who gives a shit about startup torque? SUSTAINED torque is what's needed, not startup torque. And I seriously doubt whether these Numarks can hold up to Technics in this department (I'm speculating here, I can't see the link you gave because Flash isn't on this Solaris machine I'm using). |
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| Originally posted by Wicked Neo The Ministry of Sound, london UK have just bought new decks, 6 x Stanton STR8-100's to replace their Technic's. |
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| Originally posted by wookieslut what morons! |
Never liked the MoS. More like the Ministry of Shite.
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