Differences between Vestax PCv-175 and 275?

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Posted by DJ Chrono on Mar-15-2002 05:42:

Differences between Vestax PCv-175 and 275?

I was wondering whats the difference between these to mixers, besides the obvious colour and the AUX send etc things for external fx.. any help would be great, im looking into getting one of these.

Posted by Great Outdoors on Mar-15-2002 06:11:

Colour.
Oh, you know that already

Posted by DCaff on Mar-15-2002 07:18:

i have the 175 and its very empressive. i thought it was a nice mixer until people at party's were like "damn that's a bad ass mixer", then i knew it was a nice mixer.

Posted by CrackedLcd on Mar-15-2002 08:40:

The 275 has the xtra led for the incoming track and it has kill switches...

Posted by Scorchio on Mar-15-2002 13:31:

175 also has kill switches, but in the 275 you can hear the EQ change in your headpohones
Something that the 175 doesnt have, and it has more inputs.
Besdies that its the same mixer.

Posted by Dj Thy on Mar-15-2002 13:32:

The 275 also has internal components of better quality.

Posted by harcourt on Mar-15-2002 15:07:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_inferno
The 275 has the xtra led for the incoming track and it has kill switches...

The queue meter is fantastic to have. Many of the higher end mixers have volume meters for each channel. Having one for your queue can help with matching the volume of your incoming tune which is quite important. I would take it over the 175 for that reason alone.

Posted by DJ Chrono on Mar-15-2002 21:43:

ok.. seems like the 275 is better if you can hear the eq in your head phones.. and the aux out would be good if I ever got a kaoss pad.. I just wish it looked as good as the 175!!!

Posted by Scorchio on Mar-16-2002 09:56:

Well, there is absoloutly no contest with those two colors.
The 175 color simply rox!
I like it very much, I think its the only blue mixer ever made

Posted by Scorchio on Mar-19-2002 13:53:

Ya at first I was kinda mad about that too, but I got used to it, it also depends on what you are used to, that way it could be very good or very bad.
Anyway I produce some quality mixing with it, EQ doesnt bother me, once I get the beats matched I take off my phones and mix using the speakers.
Besides you dont need to replace a mixer just for that, you can get an external monitor and connect it to the effect output and that way you will be able to monitor EQ through your headphones.
Anyway the mixer rocks.

Posted by harcourt on Mar-19-2002 14:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Andy LaStrange
im mad about the pcv 175 not being able to hear the EQ changes in the headphones, im returning my mixer today to get a differant one

I didn't know that, and it surprises me as the Stanton RM-3 which is basically the same as the 175, DOES have EQ changes in the queue.

Posted by Scorchio on Mar-19-2002 14:59:

Explain whats so better at the 275?
Its the same mixer without the xtra led and pgm isolators...

Posted by DJ Chrono on Mar-19-2002 17:55:

the RM-3S has the eq's in the headphones?? That mixer is so much cheaper than the 175... anyone use the RM-3S? Might as well get that one..

Posted by harcourt on Mar-20-2002 04:33:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Chrono
the RM-3S has the eq's in the headphones?? That mixer is so much cheaper than the 175... anyone use the RM-3S? Might as well get that one..

I have one. Identical layout and features as the 175 but with a Stanton name on it (pretty much the same company, that's why they're almost identical). I picked it up because it was cheaper and I was tight on cash. Has served me well thus far.

Posted by harcourt on Mar-20-2002 04:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Scorchio
Explain whats so better at the 275?
Its the same mixer without the xtra led and pgm isolators...

Feature wise it's not that much different other than what you've pointed out. But the queue vol. meter is a huge deal in reality. Any solid mixer has this (usually one for each channel, not just the queue).

Posted by CrackedLcd on Mar-20-2002 05:23:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Chrono
the RM-3S has the eq's in the headphones?? That mixer is so much cheaper than the 175... anyone use the RM-3S? Might as well get that one..

I have rm3s and its a nice mixer for the price...The only difference I've noticed between the vestax and the stanton beside the features is the sound quality...The vestax sound quality is much betteer then the stantons...You can't really tell if you are using vinyl, but if you are using cds...forget about it...The mixer sounds horrible...But you can't tell unless you have a nice hi-fi and speakers...I'm not sayin the rm-3s is a bad mixer, it meets my needs...For the price you can't find another mixer with its features...

Posted by DJ Chrono on Mar-21-2002 04:13:

this is gonna be a tough decision.. I want high sound quality, cause i would also use it in my studio, and have synths running through it.. and I always have a CD on a line in.. .. is the no eq in the headphone really that bad for the 175? ah, why couldnt Vestax just add that feature to the 175!!!

Posted by YuVaL on Mar-21-2002 11:03:

Posted by Scorchio on Mar-21-2002 13:11:

Its not that bad.
You can do fine without it, but sometimes its bad not to have it...

And the PCV-275 is not an upgrade to the PCV-175, its an upgrade to the PMC-270A.

Posted by YuVaL on Mar-21-2002 14:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Scorchio
Its not that bad.
You can do fine without it, but sometimes its bad not to have it...

And the PCV-275 is not an upgrade to the PCV-175, its an upgrade to the PMC-270A.

ya whatever... still r0x

Posted by harcourt on Mar-21-2002 14:25:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Chrono
this is gonna be a tough decision.. I want high sound quality, cause i would also use it in my studio, and have synths running through it.. and I always have a CD on a line in.. .. is the no eq in the headphone really that bad for the 175? ah, why couldnt Vestax just add that feature to the 175!!!

I wouldn't let the comment about the Vestax having better sound quality over Stanton worry you, I bet you'd be hard pressed to hear a difference at ALL. You will always find different opinions. Some people I'm sure would say they think the PCV-275 is comparable to a Pioneer DJMxxx in terms of sounds. Doesn't necessarily mean they are right, but it's just there opinion. I record everything I play using my Stanton (CD and Vinyl) and have zero complaints at all, sounds good to my ears.

Last of all, they're basically the same mixer, different name on it, with different colors/switches. Same guts! Compare it to cars, back in the day you had an Eagle Talon and a Mitsubishi Eclipse. Same damn car with differnet cosmetics. There are so many products out there like this.

Posted by harcourt on Mar-21-2002 14:27:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_inferno

I have rm3s and its a nice mixer for the price...The only difference I've noticed between the vestax and the stanton beside the features is the sound quality...The vestax sound quality is much betteer then the stantons...You can't really tell if you are using vinyl, but if you are using cds...forget about it...The mixer sounds horrible...But you can't tell unless you have a nice hi-fi and speakers...I'm not sayin the rm-3s is a bad mixer, it meets my needs...For the price you can't find another mixer with its features...

Ugh, you can't tell with vinyl but you can with CD? Should be the opposite affect if there is going to be a difference in the two, considering vinyl has a higher fidelity than CD.

Posted by DJ Chrono on Mar-21-2002 22:31:

one thing I can tell you, I have a staton sk5 mixer (..thats why i need an upgrade ) and when I run my synth through it I can clearly hear the sound quality loss.. but with records I dont really notice, but then I have never heard a record (on my speakers) that didnt go through my sk5 first.. maybe I'm missing out, I dont know. Do you think there would be higher sound quality in the RM3, than it would in the SK5? I would hope so..