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Posted by Krispy Kreme on Oct-09-2006 21:44:

too late to buy the jp 80x0?

I have the chance to buy the jp 8080 synth rack, however I was thinking that since the supersaw sound is dying out and producers are staying away from that classic sound now .... maybe it is too late to purchase this classic gear. What you guys think?

Posted by 3rd Signal on Oct-09-2006 21:47:

Re: too late to buy the jp 80x0?

quote:
Originally posted by Krispy Kreme
I have the chance to buy the jp 8080 synth rack, however I was thinking that since the supersaw sound is dying out and producers are staying away from that classic sound now .... maybe it is too late to purchase this classic gear. What you guys think?

I bought it 3 weeks ago. had the same thoughts like you. but I said to myself, fuck it, I love the sound and I want to experience with it a bit. even if it will die, it will come back even stronger later when people miss it.
That's my opinion to it.
Just do what you feel is the best. you can always sell it later if you don't like.

Posted by No Left Turn on Oct-09-2006 21:56:

If it's the sound that you want, go for it.

Posted by ASFSE on Oct-09-2006 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by No Left Turn
If it's the sound that you want, go for it.

he's right, you don't have to follow the latest fad. i've never used one, but you can probably get some unique sounds out of it still.

Posted by substorm on Oct-09-2006 22:56:

I agree with 3rd Signal. I planing on geting one asap!

Posted by Final Call on Oct-09-2006 23:07:

Is it good for plucks? instead of that omg AIRWAVE dun dunn junk.

Posted by LENG on Oct-10-2006 00:21:

plucks should be a no problemo

Posted by 3rd Signal on Oct-10-2006 01:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Final Call
Is it good for plucks? instead of that omg AIRWAVE dun dunn junk.

yea, it's good for them, but I'm having hard time using the envlope on it...it's really slow so it make annoying clicks...Roland says it was meant to be like that...but I don't see the point...I can get rid of them in a sec but then I lose most of the pluckish sound...then again only started learning, still got lots to learn.

Posted by Final Call on Oct-10-2006 02:21:

Ah okay i was thinking about looking for a JP8080 mainly for making plucks and some nice basslines.

Posted by mysticalninja on Oct-10-2006 03:05:

betta for pads, jp80x0 pads never get muddy and always sound nice and clean. arp type plucks are kinda weak on it.

Posted by Krispy Kreme on Oct-10-2006 04:33:

sweet looks like im gona be gettin it then.

Posted by LENG on Oct-10-2006 04:42:

have u guys heard of the song "Radio Ga Ga"? it's an old song... but you can hear the song is a synth-driven song... pretty nice to listen to actually. it makes u waiting for the filter to be fully open, which doesn't happen hahaha...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Ga_Ga

Posted by Krispy Kreme on Oct-10-2006 06:08:

quote:
Originally posted by LENG
have u guys heard of the song "Radio Ga Ga"? it's an old song... but you can hear the song is a synth-driven song... pretty nice to listen to actually. it makes u waiting for the filter to be fully open, which doesn't happen hahaha...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Ga_Ga

ah that can drive people mad, not opening filter haha

Posted by Derivative on Oct-10-2006 13:39:

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Originally posted by 3rd Signal
yea, it's good for them, but I'm having hard time using the envlope on it...it's really slow so it make annoying clicks...Roland says it was meant to be like that...but I don't see the point...I can get rid of them in a sec but then I lose most of the pluckish sound...then again only started learning, still got lots to learn.

If it clicks it means the envelope is too fast. That click is a quirk of many old analogues and it is often reproduced in digital instruments that try to mimic analogue behaviour. ImpOSCar's envelopes click like that for instance if you set the attack and release rotaries really low or on zero. The original OSCar did it too. There are some situations where you want really fast envelopes - as in synthesizing transient sounds like snare drums or bass drums.

Posted by 3rd Signal on Oct-10-2006 14:45:

I meant that it caused due to my envlopes being too fast for the jp...hehe..same thing in another way of saying it. :P
thanks for the info though bro!

Posted by jey on Oct-10-2006 16:24:

i have one and have it fully loaded with the best trance soundsets around and i can say that i love the sound of it!! ive had quite a few synths and ive always favoured the jp's sound, would never sell it....

Posted by Craig Bradley on Oct-10-2006 16:30:

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i have one and have it fully loaded with the best trance soundsets around and i can say that i love the sound of it!! ive had quite a few synths and ive always favoured the jp's sound, would never sell it....

I agree mate...plus the sounds just seem to slide into the mix perfect don't need much eq as it has the treble and bass setting.

Posted by 3rd Signal on Oct-10-2006 16:41:

quote:
Originally posted by jey
i have one and have it fully loaded with the best trance soundsets around and i can say that i love the sound of it!! ive had quite a few synths and ive always favoured the jp's sound, would never sell it....

such as what sound banks? I got the Vengeance ones with the JP. what else is there good that I should consider buying? (although I usually initalize a patch and start from there..)

Posted by Craig Bradley on Oct-10-2006 16:54:

Dreamworks VOL 1 AND 2 is a good set of banks and they are free...also rb2k1's banks are mint the second 1 has some nice fresh new sounds.

Dreamworks banks = http://www.synthdesign.de/roland.htm
(These ones are free)

and Rb2k1 = www.rb2k1.com
(These aren't but are worth it)

Posted by 3rd Signal on Oct-10-2006 17:40:

thanks much bro, will defently check those Dreamwork ones.

edit -
damn...that SH201 ain't bad at all!!

Posted by jey on Oct-10-2006 18:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Craig Bradley
Dreamworks VOL 1 AND 2 is a good set of banks and they are free...also rb2k1's banks are mint the second 1 has some nice fresh new sounds.

Dreamworks banks = http://www.synthdesign.de/roland.htm
(These ones are free)

and Rb2k1 = www.rb2k1.com
(These aren't but are worth it)

just like he said, all them, if u cant do something with them then u never will....

Posted by 3rd Signal on Oct-10-2006 18:46:

quote:
Originally posted by jey
just like he said, all them, if u cant do something with them then u never will....

even though I like having presets, I hardly use them...I prefer making sounds from scratch...so it doesn't always matter I you can do something with them or can't.

Posted by Krispy Kreme on Oct-10-2006 23:45:

alright im gona get it yay!

any other cool soundbanks available?

Posted by MSZ on Oct-11-2006 01:45:

dude saw is the best waveform ever.

Posted by Derivative on Oct-11-2006 09:42:

Yeah, except for...you know...building woodwind instruments. And sub basslines. And Bass drums. Or any kind of drum for that matter. And any sort of sound that doesn't have loads of harmonic content. Or any sound that you wish to massively distort...

Saying 'saw is the best waveform' even in jest is like saying 'A' is the best letter of the alphabet.

I mean. What?

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