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Is anyone here running on VISTA yet? how is it? is it filled with bugs or is it pretty smooth? I just want some info before I load it on my laptop.

Thanks.

Actually running it right now, RC1 build 5600.

It's pretty solid, and runs beautifully on my machine. Aero is hot. Flip3D is fun but pretty goddamn useless.

I approve.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 It's pretty solid, and runs beautifully on my machine.

And that would be?

are you still running a second OS or did you load Vista RC1 as your only /primary one? (I'm debating how much of my soul I should give to Vista for now)

i heard that vista hogs up RAM... anyone confirm?

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Originally posted by Stingray And that would be?

Athlon64 3200+, Winchester core
Asus K8V SE Deluxe, VIA KT800T northbridge chipset
1GB PC3200 DDR RAM
120GB Seagate SATA-150 HDD
20GB Fujitsu PATA-100 HDD (Vista installed here, drive slow as fuck)
BFG GeForce 6800 GS OC video
SB Live! Value sound



And yeah, I'm running this as a secondary OS, I still use XP Pro installed on my 120GB drive as primary. However, I've been using Vista almost exclusively for about a week now. The last build I was on, 5472 would BSOD a lot, but this one is rock solid so far.

Yes it uses a lot of memory, but what power user doesn't have 1GB or more these days?

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Originally posted by Shudder i heard that vista hogs up RAM... anyone confirm?

Hey Kev. It's been a while since we've talked. I hope you're doing well.
I'm running roughly 1.5 gigs of RAM on this laptop so I can't see it topping that out too easily but then if I threw Ableton back in additionally then I might start running into problems, if the RAM issue is true. Some of my stuff on Ableton getts my CPU usage hovering around 95% as it is!

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Athlon64 3200+, Winchester core Asus K8V SE Deluxe, VIA KT800T northbridge chipset 1GB PC3200 DDR RAM 120GB Seagate SATA-150 HDD 20GB Fujitsu PATA-100 HDD (Vista installed here, drive slow as fuck) BFG GeForce 6800 GS OC video SB Live! Value sound

Nice specs. You ever think of OC'ing that Winchester? They're supposed to be beasts in that department.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH Nice specs. You ever think of OC'ing that Winchester? They're supposed to be beasts in that department.

I haven't, actually. The last thing I overclocked was my old Thunderbird core Athlon 1400 on an MSI K7T-Turbo RAID mobo. The ****** would idle at 65 degrees C with a Globalwin FOP38 HSF, so I ran some dryer ducting out the window and overtop of the CPU/HSF with 2 Sunon 12cm fans in it - idled at 18 degrees after that. Mind you, this was the dead of winter.

Managed to get it up to 1600 flat, but anymore than that and she'd shit out. That was the absolute max for that core, I suppose.


Also, I have no idea how to even go about overclocking this thing. It's seriously been about 4 years since I last did that stuff. How does one do it these, days, FSB stuff or what?

works great on my laptop
any issues ive had have been resoved my installing programs in xp compatibility mode

dont even bother trying to install the 64 bit version

I'm loving this 1680x1050 shit.

How is the driver support for it ??

any crashes yet ? ..

Whats really new about it ?

Havent really paid much attention to it as of it...

is it jsut an upgrade that looks like WinXP ? or are they reinviting the whole OS ?


the pic looks like a fancy XP skin to me really

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Also, I have no idea how to even go about overclocking this thing. It's seriously been about 4 years since I last did that stuff. How does one do it these, days, FSB stuff or what?

Oh man...it's been a whiel since I OC'ed mine (3000+ Winchester)...but I know you have to play around with a lot more than just the FSB in bios. You gotta fool around with the multiplier, voltages, as well as keeping hte memory ratio at a certain level. I managed to OC mine by 150mhz, but I know of people who have increased it by as much as 600mhz using stock HSF.

Still though, I don't think it's worth all the trouble. There's too many variables you have to take into account such as compatible mobo, some luck on the CPU since some of them are less OC-friendly than others, good RAM. Unless you wanna get a bigger e-pen0r than it's pointless.

my computer is so facked that my dvd drive doesn't read anything, and my cd/rw drive doesn't open anymore. hmmm...lol

screw vista, go linux

if u want anything from vista.....its allready in Mac OSX anyways

nothing new

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Originally posted by devnull screw vista, go linux if u want anything from vista.....its allready in Mac OSX anyways nothing new

So should I use Linux or OSX instead of Vista?

To the person who was asking if it hogs more RAM, the simple answer is "yes". Although, that's not necessarily a bad thing - free RAM is essentially a waste of your resources. At optimum, you want a good RAM-management system on your OS coupled with almost full RAM use.

However, what is bad is that game performance under Vista is worse than on XP. Way worse. Anywhere from 20 to a whopping 40% worse. This is of course based on the current RCs, so maybe the final version, once all th debugging and logging is taken out of it will be faster.

Ive been runnin 64 bit vista for almost a month now, and just installed it on a new machine i just finished putting together.

New machine:
Asus A8N 32-SLI-Deluxe NVIDIA Socket 939 ATX Motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ 2.40GHz Processor
250 gig western digital SATA HDD 7200rpm 16mb cache(x2 one with vista, one with XP media center)
XFX GeForce 7600 GT XXX 256MB PCIe w/Dual DVI video card
M-Audio delta Audiofile 2496 sound card
2.5 gig pc3200 400mhz RAM

The old machine was the same but with a compaq sr1850NX all in one mother board with an ATI radeon xpress on board video card, and a athelon 64 2.2 ghz processor.

Vista runs a little faster on the new machine, but probably only because of the dual core CPU, and the video card isnt sharing my RAM anymore. I had no graphic issues running off the old onboard video adaptor, but the ATI beta driver never installed properly like this nVIDIA one did, and Im overall quite happy I have as many apps working on this 64 bit platform as I do. I was expecting the worst.

I still cant use Cubase, and alot of my other music making/editing apps or use my M-audio sound card, as M-Aduio are being lame asses and not releasing any beta drivers for vista. Same with Logitech, they are being gay and not releasing any beta drivers as well, which is a pain when your used to double clicking with the scroll wheel on the mouse, or want to use your web cam. So, XP is still being used by me, even though, Like Virtigo mentioned, Im using Vista more and more.

If you have dual-core, THEN Linux is the way to go. A friend of mine has a Core2Duo laptop running Linux that compiles 350% faster than P4 workstation... at 1400 fewer Mhz.

when is the final version going to be released?

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Originally posted by MLB when is the final version going to be released?

June or July of 2007, which at this point Im guessing isnt very realistic, with all the missing script, bugs, and problems Vista still has.

For a Release Candidate, I am not fully convinced this is ready for the prjected release date.

Dont get me wrong, its running fairly good, but have a poke through some of the Microsoft Technet forums and see the serious issues people are having. I just dont personally think its ready, which in turn is going to be good for us still using the beta so I dont have to fork out the cash as soon for the official copy.

Im starting to get hooked, and dont think I could go back to using XP after using Vista for half a year, and working out most of the bugs I have now.

I just got myself a new laptop today! this vista thingy looks cool! I want it NOW!!!

apparently the latest RC is really lacking in driver support with lots of GUI "stupidities"

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Originally posted by Matt apparently the latest RC is really lacking in driver support with lots of GUI "stupidities"

like the new avatar! "cool" and "red"

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur If you have dual-core, THEN Linux is the way to go. A friend of mine has a Core2Duo laptop running Linux that compiles 350% faster than P4 workstation... at 1400 fewer Mhz.

Clock speed means next to nothing these days.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 I'm loving this 1680x1050 shit.

LMAO, with the side panel it looks like a Linux desktop

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