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No show for guestlist

Is it really such a big deal when you ask for guestlist and you don't show up?


I've always wondered. Thanks.

guestlist is a privilege that shouldnt be abused! if you are certain you are going then add yourself. its not one of those things that people use as a "just incase" senario!

remember, promoters get paid per head! if you have no intension of going and add yourself you are taking $$$ away from the promoters pocket! if this trend happens then im sure they will black list you and not even bother adding you

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Originally posted by Claude Hughes if this trend happens then im sure they will black list you and not even bother adding you

Never happenned to anyone I know, ever.

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Originally posted by Claude Hughes if you have no intension of going and add yourself you are taking $$$ away from the promoters pocket!

how so?

It really depends on the club, and how they do guestlist. I can only speak for what I do at Sonic, but yeah - if you are on the glist and can not attend, i always appreciate the heads up. It gives me an opportunity to fill that spot with someone actually wanting to go.

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Originally posted by Abercrombie Never happenned to anyone I know, ever.

i know promoters who will add those who have abused the system on reduced vs. free entry!

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Originally posted by Misanthrope how so?

because promoters usually get paid per head! so if you have no intension of going and have yourself added and dont show then that spot could have been given to someone who wanted to go but couldnt get on because all available spots were reserved.

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Originally posted by Claude Hughes guestlist is a privilege that shouldnt be abused! if you are certain you are going then add yourself. its not one of those things that people use as a "just incase" senario! remember, promoters get paid per head! if you have no intension of going and add yourself you are taking $$$ away from the promoters pocket! if this trend happens then im sure they will black list you and not even bother adding you

Then why are soo many guest lists - by pass line only??

And even in that they make you stand outside for soo long

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Originally posted by Claude Hughes guestlist is a privilege that shouldnt be abused!

While I agree that it would be the polite thing to do to give a promoter heads up if you're not going to the party any more, guestlists in Toronto are hardly a "privilege". They are a way for clubs to account for which promoters are bringing in who and how many patrons they're bringing in. Clubbers don't really benefit from the guestlist at all. The "regular" price is an inflated price to encourage people to put themselves on a guestlist. I would anticipate that at many clubs, more people are on a guestlist than not.

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Originally posted by locodawg Then why are soo many guest lists - by pass line only?? And even in that they make you stand outside for soo long

yeah too many glists why bother gooing through one guy

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Originally posted by The Highroller While I agree that it would be the polite thing to do to give a promoter heads up if you're not going to the party any more, guestlists in Toronto are hardly a "privilege". They are a way for clubs to account for which promoters are bringing in who and how many patrons they're bringing in. Clubbers don't really benefit from the guestlist at all. The "regular" price is an inflated price to encourage people to put themselves on a guestlist. I would anticipate that at many clubs, more people are on a guestlist than not.

exactly.

very few clubs run a true "guestlist" or "VIP" list anymore.

Fly used to do it well...there would be 100+ people in line (at least) on a saturday night and an empty VIP/guestlist. And god help you if you tried to go up to try to get in if you were not on that list. Your ass would be embarassed and you could hang your head in shame as you walked by all 200 people to the back of the line, lol.

And when you were on the list (which meant actually knowing an employee or DJ as opposed to clicking on some online link) you were greated with a smile, sometimes given a drink ticket or two, and given FREE entrance...none of this $5 off bullshit.

I'm not complaining...something is better than nothing, I suppose, and I appreciate our TA promoters...but I kind of laugh at the term "VIP line" or "guestlist". The regular line at system, for $5 more unless you were on a "real" list, was often faster and worth the extra $$$ to get in more quickly.

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Originally posted by Claude Hughes remember, promoters get paid per head! if you have no intension of going and add yourself you are taking $$$ away from the promoters pocket! if this trend happens then im sure they will black list you and not even bother adding you

It's usually the comp'd spots that are limited - whereas a ton of reduced are allowed given that the cutoff time for it's use is often early - objective being to get you into the club early so that the cover savings are offset at the bar.

Years ago before the net was popular things were a little different - there were fewer guestlists and it actually took effort to get on those that were around (by knowing promoters or calling clubs) - now someone can call themselves a promoter by going online, posting a message and an 'email me for guestlist' link - the less motivated will then sit on their ass all week knowing they don't really have to do much to get new heads inside the club as long as their base #s are maintained.

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Originally posted by Claude Hughes guestlist is a privilege that shouldnt be abused! if you are certain you are going then add yourself. its not one of those things that people use as a "just incase" senario! remember, promoters get paid per head! if you have no intension of going and add yourself you are taking $$$ away from the promoters pocket! if this trend happens then im sure they will black list you and not even bother adding you

Depends on the club, back in the days System did have the comission format. With the clubs I work at and some others in the city, there's no comission at all. It's pretty bad if you pull the no show all the time, b/c for a major event, g list so limited ... your wasting a space, which someone could of needed. Reduced cover of $5.00 - $20.00 or comp passes, makes a major diff from some ppl.

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Originally posted by Floorwhore It gives me an opportunity to fill that spot with someone actually wanting to go.

so there's a certain limit on number of people on your guestlist? could you actually find someone else in that little amount of time to use it?

what if someone doesn't show up? do YOU as a promoter lose money?

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Originally posted by Misanthrope so there's a certain limit on number of people on your guestlist? could you actually find someone else in that little amount of time to use it? what if someone doesn't show up? do YOU as a promoter lose money?

yes, we do have a limit on our guestlist spots. we dont want to have a list of 1000 people to sort through the night of an event - it just makes for a prolonged wait in line for all attending.

i personally dont lose money as a promoter if i have someone not show up, but my credibility may suffer if it happens with many people or on a regular basis.

great thread and great responses.....

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Originally posted by The Highroller I would anticipate that at many clubs, more people are on a guestlist than not.

On most nights I think I agree with you yeah.

Ill get on guestlist and it always ends up being longer or a longer wait than the regular KH or Guv line!

Though, if guestlist is reduced cover, or free, I will still usually try to get on it regardless)

If someone literally breaks my balls for guestlist for one of my events and doesn't show up and doesn't offer any explanation next time, they are blacklisted.

If someone regularily asks for list and doesn't show.. then I simply stop putting them on.

and if i comp them and they don't show.. then the list will usually be full when they ask again

and if someone comes to me and all i have is reduced left for them.. and they turn around and try and score a comp for another host or one of the DJs.. then you're a cheap weasel and have no business going out in the first place

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Originally posted by activate and if someone comes to me and all i have is reduced left for them.. and they turn around and try and score a comp for another host or one of the DJs.. then you're a cheap weasel and have no business going out in the first place

Wow, that's a stupid comment. As a customer of a business, I am going to find the lowest price I can get. I'm not going to pay more than I have to out of the goodness of my heart or to be loyal.

Finding the lowest price available is not being a "cheap weasel". It is what consumers do. Why would I pay more with you when I can pay less with someone else?

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Originally posted by The Highroller Wow, that's a stupid comment. As a customer of a business, I am going to find the lowest price I can get. I'm not going to pay more than I have to out of the goodness of my heart or to be loyal. Finding the lowest price available is not being a "cheap weasel". It is what consumers do. Why would I pay more with you when I can pay less with someone else?

good point, grahamers , good point

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